GlobalMind
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| Well clearly...
It's in the cableco's best interests to not have folks using their own gear.
TiVo is unfortunately caught out in this. They have the best UI no question, but when you have to piggyback onto the provider's network you have a serious control problem.
TiVo states they're working with the cablecos to come up with a solution, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out that there isn't much motivation for the cable industry to have that solution in place.
TiVo's best bets are more device partnerships like they are doing with Comcast but hey we all know how long that's taking to roll out.
It's crap but it's getting to be harder for me to continue supporting TiVo just because of the inconvenience.
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xenophon
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| said by GlobalMind  :TiVo states they're working with the cablecos to come up with a solution, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out that there isn't much motivation for the cable industry to have that solution in place. The cable industry shouldn't be responsible for Tivo's slowness. It's Tivo's responsibility to their customers to keep up with the cable companies.
TWC shouldn't have to wait to rollout SDV when it's Tivo's fault for not putting out two-way hardware. |
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bugabuga
join:2004-06-10
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If Tivo wasn't such an arrogant company and played nicely before, we all would have an option to have Tivo on cable company's box. I think it was the biggest mistake Tivo made -- by not trying to get into cable company's hardware and waiting until they "crawl back to them" asking for a better deal. Instead it's the Tivo that did the crawling and still it has no agreement with Time Warner cable...
*sigh*
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MacLeech
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1 edit | said by bugabuga :If Tivo wasn't such an arrogant company and played nicely before, we all would have an option to have Tivo on cable company's box. I think it was the biggest mistake Tivo made -- by not trying to get into cable company's hardware and waiting until they "crawl back to them" asking for a better deal. Instead it's the Tivo that did the crawling and still it has no agreement with Time Warner cable... *sigh* Tivo on cable company boxes is possible because they're making the Tivo software OCAP compliant.
They didn't even have to do that, they could've made their hardware CHILA compliant (basically the hardware half of OCAP/tru2way) when the spec was released a few years ago. Then it would've been mostly a matter of updating the software to work with SDV.
That's pretty much what Moto and SciAtl have done. That's how those boxes can use CableCARDs, 2-way functionality for SDV, and run legacy non OCAP compliant software.
... but since Tivo didn't include the needed transmitter hardware within the Tivo box, the "tuning resolver" is needed now. |
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dieman
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'two-way' hardware, in a cable companies mind, is OCAP or bust. OCAP is not acceptable for something I'm purchasing. It just means 'use our really awful interface to use your tivo hardware'. Whats the point of buying a tivo anymore then? |
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MacLeech
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1 edit | said by dieman :'two-way' hardware, in a cable companies mind, is OCAP or bust. OCAP is not acceptable for something I'm purchasing. It just means 'use our really awful interface to use your tivo hardware'. Whats the point of buying a tivo anymore then? Apparently you haven't read the tru2way agreement then... it'll allow for CE guides to be in place.
DCR+ was dead when CEA proposed it. Just like DCR should've been. |
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GlobalMind
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said by xenophon :said by GlobalMind :TiVo states they're working with the cablecos to come up with a solution, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out that there isn't much motivation for the cable industry to have that solution in place. The cable industry shouldn't be responsible for Tivo's slowness. It's Tivo's responsibility to their customers to keep up with the cable companies. TWC shouldn't have to wait to rollout SDV when it's Tivo's fault for not putting out two-way hardware. I didn't say that it was the cableco's responsibility. My point is that while TiVo may be working hard to come up with a solution it isn't exactly in the cableco's best interests to speed that process along.
Pretty simple really. I am making no statement that TWC or any other carrier has to wait to roll out SDV.
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