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espaeth
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If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles...

Maybe if we got enough people to sign a petition we can get crosstalk considerations removed from the ADSL2+ protocol spec!


Karl Bode
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Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds! Gosh, we're just sunk.


pokesph
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Maybe, just maybe, we can just bond 2 lines together.


espaeth
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Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds!
Name a technology that Qwest could deploy at the same or lower costs than their FTTN ADSL2+ offering that would allow those faster upstream speeds.


espaeth
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Maybe, just maybe, we can just bond 2 lines together.
There's nothing to stop you from ordering 2 lines and doing this yourself today.


PolarBear
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BLASPHEMY! Shut your mouth, such evils should not be spoken of!

vortex91

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reply to espaeth
oh gee FTTH?


mikepd
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Not going to happen since true line bonding requires support at the ISP end as well as the subscriber end.
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Karl Bode
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Juice boosted carrier pigeon?


espaeth
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Not going to happen since true line bonding requires support at the ISP end as well as the subscriber end.
No ISP support necessary. You just need to have a box somewhere with sufficient bandwidth (ie, a server at a local data center) and establish a multilink PPP session to that.


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oh gee FTTH?
*sigh* An FTTH deployment would not be the same or lower cost to that of their FTTN deployment.


maartena
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds!
Name a technology that Qwest could deploy at the same or lower costs than their FTTN ADSL2+ offering that would allow those faster upstream speeds.
None. That's why I stick with Cable, because they can.


Dogfather
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reply to Karl Bode
Gosh, if only the whiners would get together and put up $20 billion, they could build the "perfect" network instead of bitching about what everyone else isn't doing for them.

EPS

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reply to espaeth
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds!
Name a technology that Qwest could deploy at the same or lower costs than their FTTN ADSL2+ offering that would allow those faster upstream speeds.
Yes, Qwest shouldn't have to spend MORE money! God, how dare some suggest that they may be better off with a more expensive choice- haven't those unlucky enough to hold shares in Q suffered enough?

Qwest dug themselves into this pit with all their debt, but now I don't really see how they can do anything else- they simply don't have the capability to make huge expensive deployments like telecom mega-conglomerates VZ and T.


Matt
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said by mikepd See Profile :

Not going to happen since true line bonding requires support at the ISP end as well as the subscriber end.
No ISP support necessary. You just need to have a box somewhere with sufficient bandwidth (ie, a server at a local data center) and establish a multilink PPP session to that.
Screw fiber to the home or DOCSIS 3.0, let's all order 2 DSL lines, co-locate a server in a data center, pay for our bandwidth there, just so we can get 1.8Mbps upstream!

Whooo!


SLD
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Maybe we can commendeer some of the money from the Iraq "war" for this.


en102
Canadian, eh?

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Valencia, CA
reply to espaeth
I do remote desktop over 3Mbps/512kbps - and it works just fine. As far as uploading large files...get off Windows platform, and use Solaris/Linux/HP-UX and Java/Weblogic
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Dogfather
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Or better, give it back to the taxpayers.


quetwo
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What exactally does Windows have to do with the size of a download? Last I checked, Linux ISOs/DVDs are pretty large too...


PolarBear
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No kidding. A much cheaper alternative would be to order two lines and connect them to a dual-WAN router. Although I'm not sure if you can max out both lines with only one connection (say, uploading a large file to a server).
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