Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds! Gosh, we're just sunk. | |
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pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs: | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... Maybe, just maybe, we can just bond 2 lines together. | |
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mikepd
Discovery
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join:2000-10-26
New Port Richey, FL
clubs: | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... Not going to happen since true line bonding requires support at the ISP end as well as the subscriber end.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... said by espaeth  :said by mikepd :Not going to happen since true line bonding requires support at the ISP end as well as the subscriber end. No ISP support necessary. You just need to have a box somewhere with sufficient bandwidth (ie, a server at a local data center) and establish a multilink PPP session to that. Screw fiber to the home or DOCSIS 3.0, let's all order 2 DSL lines, co-locate a server in a data center, pay for our bandwidth there, just so we can get 1.8Mbps upstream!
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... No kidding. A much cheaper alternative would be to order two lines and connect them to a dual-WAN router. Although I'm not sure if you can max out both lines with only one connection (say, uploading a large file to a server). | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... said by PolarBear :No kidding. A much cheaper alternative would be to order two lines and connect them to a dual-WAN router. Although I'm not sure if you can max out both lines with only one connection (say, uploading a large file to a server). A dual WAN router just doesn't cut it. I'm not sure what algorithms it uses, but I assume most websites are smart enough to not allow loading of password protected resources from 2 different IPs with the exact same cookie, or sign out the 1st IP immediately if a 2nd IP trys to access a resource. Also a dual WAN router, AFAIK, can't cut up an image into a 2 Partial transfers, buffer the image in its RAM, then once the entire image is in RAM, pretend to be an HTTP server (hijacking the existing connection) to the PC and deliver the image under 1 HTTP connection. Just tunnel it to a datacenter and ressemble the tunnels into 1 tunnel. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | BLASPHEMY! Shut your mouth, such evils should not be spoken of! | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by pokesph :Maybe, just maybe, we can just bond 2 lines together. only a pair is used... there are 2 pair or 4 wire in a phone line.
if you could utilize that yes, you can basically go from 8/1 to 80/10 and that would be practical. | |
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| vortex91
join:2000-08-18
Glendale, CA | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... oh gee FTTH? | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Juice boosted carrier pigeon? | |
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| said by espaeth :said by Karl Bode :Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds! Name a technology that Qwest could deploy at the same or lower costs than their FTTN ADSL2+ offering that would allow those faster upstream speeds. None. That's why I stick with Cable, because they can.  | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| said by espaeth :said by Karl Bode :Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds! Name a technology that Qwest could deploy at the same or lower costs than their FTTN ADSL2+ offering that would allow those faster upstream speeds. Yes, Qwest shouldn't have to spend MORE money! God, how dare some suggest that they may be better off with a more expensive choice- haven't those unlucky enough to hold shares in Q suffered enough?
Qwest dug themselves into this pit with all their debt, but now I don't really see how they can do anything else- they simply don't have the capability to make huge expensive deployments like telecom mega-conglomerates VZ and T. | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by espaeth :said by Karl Bode :Yeah, if only there were a technology that offered faster upstream speeds! Name a technology that Qwest could deploy at the same or lower costs than their FTTN ADSL2+ offering that would allow those faster upstream speeds. LMDS wireless to the home from the RT? | |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Gosh, if only the whiners would get together and put up $20 billion, they could build the "perfect" network instead of bitching about what everyone else isn't doing for them. | |
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... Maybe we can commendeer some of the money from the Iraq "war" for this. | |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: If only user desire trumped engineering obstacles... Or better, give it back to the taxpayers. | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by Dogfather :Gosh, if only the whiners would get together and put up $20 billion, they could build the "perfect" network instead of bitching about what everyone else isn't doing for them. Start making physical plant being owned by non-profits that don't report to Wall Street and therefore don't have $3000 a month T1s (in a Datacenter BTW). | |
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