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What about Annex J and Annex M? Are they not offered? »
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maartena
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reply to ztmike
Re: DSL

DSL, ADSL, ADSL2+, and most DSL technologies have one enourmous drawback. To get more upload then about 1 Mbps, you pretty much need to live right next to the CO.

VDSL can give you up to about 5 Mbps upstream provided you are actually within 800ft of the CO or something like that. U-Verse from AT&T has 1.5 Mbps upload, BUT you have to be close to a DSLAM for that.

Telco's need to switch to fiberoptics to get the powerusers. My cable company offers 15/2 connections (for businesses, I have 10/1 but i think they will upgrade everyone). NO telco is going to give me that (I am 11000 ft from the CO) unless they run fiber into my home.
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adisor19

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said by maartena See Profile :

DSL, ADSL, ADSL2+, and most DSL technologies have one enourmous drawback. To get more upload then about 1 Mbps, you pretty much need to live right next to the CO.

VDSL can give you up to about 5 Mbps upstream provided you are actually within 800ft of the CO or something like that. U-Verse from AT&T has 1.5 Mbps upload, BUT you have to be close to a DSLAM for that.

Telco's need to switch to fiberoptics to get the powerusers. My cable company offers 15/2 connections (for businesses, I have 10/1 but i think they will upgrade everyone). NO telco is going to give me that (I am 11000 ft from the CO) unless they run fiber into my home.
Umm, did someone forget about Annex M by any chance ? Annex M gives ADSL2+ up to 3Mbps upload speed yet these guys aren't even offering it.. makes you wonder..

Adi


tschmidt
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Milford, NH
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said by adisor19 See Profile :

Annex M gives ADSL2+ up to 3Mbps upload speed yet these guys aren't even offering it..
While it is rather easy to increase upload performance for DSL one does so at the expense of download. The total capacity of DSL is limited by attenuation and noise sources.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5_Annex_M
»www.billion.com/edu/AnnexM_Whitepaper.pdf

/tom

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to maartena
said by maartena See Profile :

DSL, ADSL, ADSL2+, and most DSL technologies have one enourmous drawback. To get more upload then about 1 Mbps, you pretty much need to live right next to the CO.

VDSL can give you up to about 5 Mbps upstream provided you are actually within 800ft of the CO or something like that. U-Verse from AT&T has 1.5 Mbps upload, BUT you have to be close to a DSLAM for that.

Telco's need to switch to fiberoptics to get the powerusers. My cable company offers 15/2 connections (for businesses, I have 10/1 but i think they will upgrade everyone). NO telco is going to give me that (I am 11000 ft from the CO) unless they run fiber into my home.
What happened to putting a SDSL card into the RT?

hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable

reply to maartena
How do you figure DSL has enourmous set backs? North Point DSL and others back in the DSL Boom oftered faster DSL than what we have now! Where in the hell did all of that equipment that ATT and MCI (now VZ Business) buy when everyone went bankrupt. Someone surely knows what happened to it.

The fact is Telcos REFUSE to spend any damn money on their customers. If they can get away without doing it and staying in business they will. Telco's suck! and the CEO only cares about their bank account when they retire so they milk every damn thing they can.
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