Power Limits in Australia? in Wireless Service Providers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20744410 en Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:59:58 EDT Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:59:58 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20768232 Equis : Hello

Thanks you VERY VERY much for our help.
This has put my Mind to rest.

Thanks again so much!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20768232 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:58:05 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762535 robbin :
said by pkhooper See Profile :

Equis,

Yes, the documentation is confusing, however the LIPD document that you have linked to is the correct source for the information that you are looking for. There are a few other things to know though...
Regards,
Patrick Hooper
Very nice explanation of a very confusing document Patrick. Thanks to a new member of our forum! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762535 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:44:08 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762304 lutful :
said by Equis See Profile :

It is more confusing than I can imagine to find out what is legal in Australia
Are you currently operating in Australia? Join the WISP mailing list - hopefully it is still active - maintained by Steve Haigh, founder of pioneer Melbourne Wireless.
»www.crc.id.au/why-i-founded-melb···ireless/ :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762304 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:31:12 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20759008 pkhooper : Equis,

Yes, the documentation is confusing, however the LIPD document that you have linked to is the correct source for the information that you are looking for. There are a few other things to know though.

I will step through things for you. I will focus on frequencies that are of interest for a Wireless ISP.

1. What frequencies can we use in AU?

I will mention the LIPD Item number for reference.

915-928 - 1W EIRP - Item 45
2400-2483.5 - 4W EIRP - Item 45A
5150-5250 - 200mW EIRP - Item 44 (Indoors Only)
5250-5350 - 200mW EIRP - Item 44A (Indoors Only)
5470-5600 - 1W EIRP - Item 46
5650-5725 - 1W EIRP - Item 46
5725-5850 - 4W EIRP - Item 45B

2. What things are special about the AU bands?

915-928

Most products are developed for the US market, which is 902-928. In AU the 902-914 area is used by Vodafone for mobile RX, and if you don't use the australian band correctly you will certainly be visited by the ACMA.

Above 928 Vodafone have their GSM TX, so you do get some interference here. I suggest that you use cavity filters where you can to make your links work better.

2400-2483.5

Most products are configured the use the FCC channel plan which is 11 channels. In AU the 2.4GHz frequency band does allow for 13 channels. With the 13 channels you have more options for channel plans, with the ability to do a channels plan of 1 - 5 - 9 - 13, with 4 channels with no overlap. With 11 channels, you only have 1 - 6 - 11 with no overlap, or 1 - 4 - 8 - 11 with some overlap. Important thing to note if you are planning to use 13 channels, make sure your CPE devices can support 13 channnels also.

5470-5600
5650-5725

This band is normally called the 5.4GHz band. This is normally from 5470-5725. In AU we have been given a 50MHz exclusion zone in the middle, which is different from all other implementations around the world that I know of. This makes it tricky to deliver a solution that is fully compliant.

We also need to implement DFS (dynamic frequency selection), and TPC (transmit power control).

This band has the EIRP of 1W, that is defined as "Averaged over the entire transmission burst). Most radios are not full duty cycle, as they switch between TX and RX, and therefore you can set the EIRP over 1W to achieve the average value of 1W. I am not sure how the ACMA will police this value.

5725-5850

The EIRP in this band is limited to 4W, for both point to multipoint and point to point. In the US for point to point links you can use higher power, but not in AU, unless you are in a low population area.

If you are in a low population area, less than 20,000 people, you can apply for a registered 5.8GHz link from the ACMA and then you can implement a 200W EIRP system. This can only be used for point to point links, and you need to pay the small fee per link of $80 PA.

I think that just about covers the things that you need to know about the unlicensed bands in AU.

If you have any further questions please feel free to drop me an email.

Regards,
Patrick Hooper
Wireless Data Solutions - »www.wirelessdata.com.au]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20759008 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:03:24 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20750784 anon : refer this page for a comparison of NZ and AUS alloances.

»www.rsm.govt.nz/cms/policy-and-p···20limits

2.4 & 5.8 you are correct at 4 watt but only ss or fh.
5150-5250 & 5250-5350 indoor 200mw only.
5470-5725 - Not allowed at moment -
Anticipated: RLAN 1W mean e.i.r.p. outdoor]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20750784 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:51:09 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746410 robbin : That's what I figured -- that's a pretty complicated document to read for someone to properly comprehend with limited training. I tried to read through it and the fact that they have different power requirements for the same band depending on the use and radio type makes it very difficult.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746410 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:08:02 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746379 Equis : Nope.

Cass licence is free
just paid money for a carriers licence :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746379 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:59:43 EDT Re: Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746066 robbin : Did you have to take a test when you got your license?

"This Class Licence is the Radiocommunications (Low Interference Potential Devices) Class Licence 2000."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746066 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:30:39 EDT Power Limits in Australia? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20744410 Equis : Hello

It is more confusing than I can imagine to find out what is legal in Australia, I am getting many different outcomes when I google max power limits for wifi

So far I am sure about
2.4 = 4 watts
5.8 = 4 watts
5.1-5.3 ? can I use outdoors or only indoors?
5.6 is this now allowed?

Any help would be great.

I even emailed teh acma but they just pointed m to a paper I could not understand...

»www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/Legisla···Document]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20744410 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:20:04 EDT