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4 edits | reply to battleop
Re: What a massive waste
No guy. Comcast's customer service is in decline (to the point they're rated lower than the IRS) and they're constantly raising prices. it's a valid bitch to protest these issues when they're wasting hundreds of millions on fluff. It's also valid when they're looking kill the ownership cap and acquire new cable systems, bringing their horrid service to new areas (like they did at my Inland Empire home where they bought ATTB and ran it into the ground).
Reverse the download spiral of customer service, slow the rate of the price increases to something even remotely reflecting inflation and THEN waste some dough on the fluff.
And in a lot of markets, Comcast has no competitor, especially in low latency data services. In others where there is a new competitor, Comcast engages in illegal predatory pricing to run them out of business. »Comcast Vs. Utopia »'Discounted' Competition
But enough of this. The cable fanboys will defend everything Comcast does no matter what just as telco fanboys defend everything the telcos do no matter what. Pointing out the obvious flaws in either industry doesn't slow down their regurgitation of corporate talking points. |
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KrK
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said by fiberguy  :or those that continue to do business with them no matter WHAT the reason. YEAH!! I'll just switch to one of those other broadband providers!!
Oh wait.... there isn't one. Guess I'm stuck with the crap, or the nothing. Guess what. That entitles you to bitch about the crap.
Your theory would work if there was actually a real competitive market.
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said by TKJunkMail :Wow, imagine that. The lead tenant in a building had suggestions for its design and the owner listened. The world is spinning off its access!! Deliberately missing the point...? The point is: No, it was not put in by the building owner to comply with zoning... Yes, it was put in by Comcast, at their own expense.
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When you exist in a market with very limited competition or basic non-competition you can spend as much money as you like on fancy luxuries and just increase the price to your subscribers to cover whatever expenses you like.... you also can get away with shoddier service and customer service due to the lack of options for the customers.
That's the basic point.
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So does that make you and anti-corporation shill? |
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said by SLD :Just remember that Comcast is a monopoly in may of its markets. >
And don't forget, it's also a "government sponsored" monopoly and our tax dollars indirectly support that model. |
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said by Dogfather :said by TKJunkMail :said by Dogfather :According to the company that developed by video programming for the wall, it was Brian Roberts himself that conceived the wall and had it built in the lobby. Wow, imagine that. The lead tenant in a building had suggestions for its design and the owner listened. The world is spinning off its access!! Yeah, imagine that...Comcast spending hundreds of millions in subscriber money on their fancy new HQ while their service runs like ass and customer service ranks lower than the IRS. Why do you speak on their service as a whole?
That would be like me saying their service is fine because I've had it in several different locations in several states and never had any major issues. |
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4 edits | reply to LeftOfSanity
It would if you didn't bother to look at my post history which includes supporting civil immunity for the telcos and elimination of all corporate taxes. This is too funny
First I'm all about being an telco shill and always assailing Comcast
»Karl, you have proof that COMCAST published it?
»Re: "He who gets the last laugh.. "
Never having a bad word to say about Verizon
»They promised PA stuff too
»Last mile will kill them
Or AT&T
»Re: Good ruling that slows blackmail by local gov't
»Telcos need to get a clue
»AT&T greed...
»Re: AT&T greed...
And now I'm an anti-corporate shill...
»Rebate Checks + Permanent Tax Cuts
...while being one of the few who sides with civil immunity for the telcos
»So what
»No win scenario for the Telcos
The fanboys will see only what they want to see. They have selective memories.
Meanwhile I'll continue my shilling on behalf of the taxpayers and rate payers.
»Re: So what
You want to side against rate payers and tax payers...more power to ya. |
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Dogfather
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1 edit | reply to LeftOfSanity
Because their service as a whole sucks ass and unlike the rest of their industry, their service rankings are in a free fall. They shouldn't be dropping such large sums on fluff until they improve their service in those areas needing improvement. |
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Quack all you want, but you're still a shill to your own side. You go through and pull up selective posts to support your spin, however, you fail to pull the ones where I too don't support Comcast and I too have supported phone in where I feel they've done right.
So, in your quest to point the fingers at others around here, you have failed to support your arguments. One act of dissent doesn't take away that you are such an anti-XXXX extremest.
Besides, when did it become YOUR job to come to this forum and post the every so common "You're a shill" message to anyone that disagrees with you?
EVEN IF I were a shill, which I am not and is NONE of your concern, what the hell does it matter and who made you police of BBR? Last time I checked, you are not a Mod, so STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!
I think you need to take light to the TOS here at BBR.
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"2) harasses another person or advocates such harassment or causes them to be fearful;"
While I am not fearful of you, your constant harassment is getting old!
If you do not like the fact that I do not agree with you and you can't change it, then DO NOT RESPOND TO MY POSTS! Use the ignore button and move on!
Both you and BBR need to start enforcing their own TOS agreement here. I have a right to post my messages and views here in this forum with out someone like you coming behind me and acting like a 4 year old, calling me shill, and other names. I have every right not to have a view that does not agree with yours, no matter what that may be, and I have a right to do so, as do many others, with out being harassed as the way you have been.
Your actions are beyond cute or even funny.. they are down right harassing and belligerent . I'd advise you, and the mods here, to stop this activity immediately.
It is NOT your place to seek out and identify people who may or may not be so-call shills, now is it?
I am making this clean RIGHT NOW.. I am not a paid corporate spokes person, I am not compensated in anyway by ANY communications company, it is not my job OR hobby to defend or make any organization look good or better - PERIOD! You, and ANYONE ELSE who things so, needs to get this through your head. I speak ONLY for myself and my views are my own - NO ONE ELSES!
SO KNOCK IT THE F*&* OFF!
You, and your friends, need to knock it off and abide by the rules here at BBR, INCLUDING the mods who let people like you get away with this kind of behavior which goes against the very TOS that we ALL agree to by using this site. |
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fiberguy
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Then.. what else are you doing to change it? Have you shown up to any of your local franchise meetings? How about a city planning meeting? Have you rallied your neighbors to the cause? Have you written your representative?
Have you actually sat down and WROTE a letter.. not email, but an actual pen to paper or typed and mailed letter to the local office?
I'm guessing you do not have DSL available to you? .. and if not, have you done what we did in MN? We mandated that Qwest improved service to more people in the state, even rural areas, when they wanted to get into long distance. We required better service.
You stated that you had no competition. There is nothing stopping phone from competing with cable - have you thought about going after phone using the above methods, or others, to get phone to service you and give you a choice that so many others have?
The buck doesn't stop with cable, alone. You, and so many others, have options - many just refuse to use them or say they have none.
If you pre-judge the outcome and say it will never work, for one you sound like a hana barbara character, and two, you're destined to fail and take what you get.
You will NEVER know until you try it. But, to blame cable for you having no choice it totally misplaced blame. You can't sit back and wait for everything to change on it's own in your favor.
Who gets the most done in this country while being called cooks? Activist.. I guess it takes a cook to make change as they seem to be the only group organized enough to make changes. Funny thing is, they are small groups who speak loud and cause the most conflict. There is something to be said about their actions, huh? |
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4 edits | reply to fiberguy
LOL. Of course I'm a shill for my side. Duh. I shill for the little guy, Joe Taxpayer and Jane Ratepayer who are constantly screwed over by government, cable, telcos, the jerkoffs they bribe and everyone else who abuses their power.
You can go on shilling for Comcast all you want. No one is stopping you (obviously) and you're certainly not the only cable fanboy on DSLR. But don't expect your outrageous claims and endless defense of cable interests to go unanswered. No one here is going to give you are anyone else a free pass to spout endless corporate talking points or viciously attack anyone who dares speak ill of the all-mighty Comcast.
I will continue to slam Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, government, or their fanboy shill spokeholes whenever they spout lies and bullshit, support the lies and bullshit or regurgitate the lies and bullshit.
There is one thing telling about all this. You don't have problems giving me thumbs up when I'm defending Comcast or the cable industry from the cable haters and telco shills. But then you quickly turn and call it harassment when those same satirical guns are trained in the direction of the Coaxial Masters or their many minions. That's called hypocrisy. And you constantly belittle and flame people (the likely cause of so many moderator actions against you) usually while talking out your ass arguing with people way above your pay grade. And you think you're being picked on? Don't flatter yourself. Trust me, no one here gives you a second thought.
If you have a problem with a post or user your only recourse is to refute the post, ignore the post/user and/or use the Hey Mods button.
In the meantime I suggest you get some objectivity, don't post what you can't defend and don't boo hoo it up whenever people call you out for firing up your daily cable talking points. Every single post here is open for comment and critique and when posting patterns emerge, those patterns are open for comment and critique as well.
EDIT - Actually I just gave you a 1 extra thought.
The day before yesterday you called pspcrazy a "little boy" during one of your typical forum rule violating belittlementfests but it's obviously you who needs to man up. You dish it out constantly and now you're complaining about how you're a poor victim of a vast conspiracy that includes DSLR mods. Interesting that you feel that you should be able to dish it out as much as you want but you yourself should never be challenged.
I thought I would share an old post of yours with the class. I'll leave you with your own words...
»Re: When will the HD quality improve?
said by fiberguy :
You haven't met a smart ass until you've met me....If you're going to come here and post something, that isn't accurate, and that you "know it for true" and your research is a few posts from the internet... well, expect to get the response he did.
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KrK
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Maybe I should of said hypothetically. |
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said by fiberguy :The buck doesn't stop with cable, alone. You, and so many others, have options - many just refuse to use them or say they have none. I stay on top of my options, thank you very much. There are only currrently two real choices for broadband here. Granted, in other parts of the Nation, there may be more, but 2 is pretty average for most places.
Just because you have options doesn't mean you can pronounce everything as fine and dandy for the rest of the country.
You kinda remind me of that old story about the guy who tells everyone to Cheer up--- because everything is going his way.
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fiberguy
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| Hmmm.. I said everything's going my way?
I told people to cheer up? I have more than 2 options here?
Amazing you can get that from my post.. re-reading my own, I didn't see it.
It's not about just knowing what's there. You just proved you want to bitch and not solve problems.
I outlined the way you do things in this country to cause change. However, its truly clear you don't want to see change or BE PART of what changes things.
If you, or anyone, thinks that posting disdain here on BBR is going to make change, you're wrong.
See above for the answer. You can't sit back and HOPE it will change.
The "other options" were to take part in BRINGING change.. but again, you're rather spend your time on BBR bitching like the others who think they are making change.
For once, I'd LOVE for people to post what they have done to solve the problems instead of sitting back and saying "I am so helpless"... can ANYONE state what they've done to take part in change?
Seems everytime something is done, it's by seniors.. I wonder why! Maybe they still GET IT! |
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As usual, your assumptions are 1) all wrong and 2) mean spirited.
It's pretty obvious from your post you just want to attack and feel superior. Thanks, your input is no longer necessary or desired. |
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I live in Pennsylvania and Verizon actually had to come through on the deal. My Grandma, actually we call it the farm because the nearest neighbor is a cow... no really is about 5 miles away yet she gets 3 meg DSL!
Now, with that said, I think Verizon came through, by force and in a different way than promised, so quit using that BS.
I have Verizon dry DSL with Vonage VOIP to solve all of the above problems you mentioned. Use your brain and stop bitching because there are ways around everything you are bitching about. I think you have every right to complain but what you are complaining about is simply not a valid problem, therefore, you are just like a crazy man on the corner screaming the end is near without anything to back it up. |
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Alky
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These people? Now you lump me in with the masses? Thanks pal. I merely make an observation, and you jump all over me. So I didn't have all the facts. Kill me. That does not give you the right to go finger pointing. |
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4 edits | reply to keyboard5684
You need to think more and type less. You should actually read up on Chap 30 and what it required. I'll give you the Cliff's Notes version of the history lesson since you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
3Mb dry loop doesn't even come close to meeting their Chap 30 obligations which among other things required full deployment of 45Mb video and data services to all access lines and installing that service within 5 days of customer order. You have 45Mb service available to you within 5 days of order? As of 4 years ago 50% of PA subs were supposed to have it.
Also chapter 30 defined broadband as a minimum 1.5/1.5. Your ADSL doesn't even meet the Chap 30 definition of broadband and we all know that 1.5Mb DSL isn't available on all access lines and T1s don't get installed within 5 days.
So why would Chap 30 even be written into law?
BA at the time was planning FTTP deployment »newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···29607541 and in exchange Chapter 30 offered significant deregulation and bonuses. BA got their Chap 30 deregulation which according to the testamony of well known industry expert Dr. Selwyn »www.econtech.com/library/LLS%20P···2002.pdf BA got billions and billions while not deploying shit. When it finally came to deploying fiber, Verizon chose Texas, not Pennsylvania to see it's first deployments. And even to this day, FTTC isn't available in the deployment rates required by Chap 30.
Now you want to back up your claim that BA now VZ has met their Chapter 30 obligations of 45Mb service on all their access lines? Not even T3 meets the requirements as VZ doesn't service it within the required 5 days, and even VZ themselves aren't stupid enough to say a T3 meets the requirement (they wrongly claim that ADSL does it »www22.verizon.com/about/communit···dex.html despite the lack of universal servicability of synchronous 1.5Mb service that don't meet the original Chap 30 requirements). And of course VZ provides no video services on those lines.
In early 2002 the PA PUC stated quote:
"...this Commission has a legal obligation to reject Verizon PA’s 2000 Update and require it to submit a new update specifying its plans to satisfy its legal obligation to provide a modernized network with broadband capability of at least 45 Mbps upstream and downstream, to be available within five days from the customer request date.
In 2003 Pennsylvania let Verizon off the hook, letting them keep the billions they got and still no 45Mb service. »Picture Perfect Deal
I eagerly await your data showing VZ even remotely lived up to BA's Chap 30 obligations of sychronous 45Mb service or any evidence to refute the testimony of industry expert Dr. Selwyn. |
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