Re: Setting up a custom home network... in Wireless Networking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20749572 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:41:56 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:41:56 EDT Re: Setting up a custom home network... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764395 ReVeLaTeD :
said by Anav See Profile :

Okay the router from zyxel your looking for is the NBG334W, it comes with a guest wifi capability that ONLY has access to the internet and NOT to the LAN of the router. The router has its own Wifi (separate security settings etc) as well. This is an ideal unit for someone who wants to provide wifi for others but doesnt want to compromise their own wifi or wired LAN. In this case, ideal for placing all those devices that are not WPA or WPA2 compatible.

»www.zyxel.com/web/product_family···361862EE
~$50 and it does exactly what I want - Guest WLAN with a separate SSID and/or MAC filtered prevention. This is perfect. Thank you sir

EDIT: OoOoo, and bandwidth control at the kbps level. This is an awesome router. Wish I'da known about this before I bought that fancy Linksys.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764395 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:18:01 EDT Re: Setting up a custom home network... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20763499 Anav : Okay the router from zyxel your looking for is the NBG334W, it comes with a guest wifi capability that ONLY has access to the internet and NOT to the LAN of the router. The router has its own Wifi (separate security settings etc) as well. This is an ideal unit for someone who wants to provide wifi for others but doesnt want to compromise their own wifi or wired LAN. In this case, ideal for placing all those devices that are not WPA or WPA2 compatible.

»www.zyxel.com/web/product_family···361862EE

The other one Steve was probably looking at is the ZyWALL 2WG which has its own wifi as well as separate LAN zones (would need to provide one more wifi device - ap or wifi router acting as ap/switch). The wired only zywall 2plus is cheaper and you would need to provide both wifi devices (aps or wifi router acting as ap/switch)

»www.zyxel.com/web/product_family···CF8649C8
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LlamaWorks Equipment]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20763499 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:42:37 EDT Re: Setting up a custom home network... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758973 LLigetfa : I haven't done it yet but have read several threads on the dd-wrt forum on the topic.

Using a separate AP for guest access would require a separate security zone be defined in the upstream router or at least double-NAT which could cause issues for your guests. The ZyXEL router SteveO mentioned has separate security zones but doesn't fall in the sub $100 price range.

If you life in a traditional house where your neighbors are a distance away and hosting APs with less than ideal wireless security, another consideration is to place the AP low in the basement with the antenna horizontal so that the signal is shielded by the earth.
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said by LLigetfa See Profile :

said by stevech0 See Profile :

I don't know of a $50 w-router that will allow your guests to access only the internet.
Perhaps not stock, but with dd-wrt installed and virtual SSID setup, it is possible.
That's kind of what I'm talking about. Any more details on that type of setup? I'd hoped it would be as easy as a virtual SSID type thing where I can customize the connection based on SSID alone. I'd love to be able to do that.

I suppose worst case I can go the separate router route with an Ethernet bridge and then lock down the "guest" router. I'd just hoped not to have to do that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758886 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:40:11 EDT Re: Setting up a custom home network... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20749572 LLigetfa :
said by stevech0 See Profile :

I don't know of a $50 w-router that will allow your guests to access only the internet.
Perhaps not stock, but with dd-wrt installed and virtual SSID setup, it is possible.
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said by jimbopalmer See Profile :

Um, if you are going to gut it, why not run wires? It is ALWAYS faster and more stable than wireless.
1: The PSP can't go wired.
2: the PDA can't go wired.
3: There will be a wired Ethernet network built in to support the media server, HD-DVR, and 360, but that's a Phase 3 thing. Since it's a prebuilt house it's going to take some doing to wire up the house. That's more expensive and time consuming than to simply do a wireless network in a 4 bedroom home.

said by stevech0 See Profile :

if you cannot run wire and MUST use wireless...
Get some cheap wireless routers and configure them as access points. Give each one a different SSID. Setup one with WEP instead of WPA to deal with the PS3. And so on.

Guest access: buy a ZyXel ZyWall router. Use it instead of your normal router. It can wall off guests.
Got a link by chance? The only ones I'm finding are over $200...and I'm looking for something more budget-centric. Like, less than $100. Ideally if I could use my existing hardware to get the job done, that would be the optimal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20748916 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:22:21 EDT Re: Setting up a custom home network... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746792 stevech0 : if you cannot run wire and MUST use wireless...
Get some cheap wireless routers and configure them as access points. Give each one a different SSID. Setup one with WEP instead of WPA to deal with the PS3. And so on.

Guest access: buy a ZyXel ZyWall router. Use it instead of your normal router. It can wall off guests.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746792 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:55:58 EDT Re: Setting up a custom home network... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20746544 jimbopalmer : Um, if you are going to gut it, why not run wires? It is ALWAYS faster and more stable than wireless.
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Someone may have already asked about how to do this; I did check back threads and didn't see anything. Here goes.

I'm in the process of buying my first house. I already know I'm going to have to gut the thing and re-do a lot. One thing I want to do is enhance my wireless network in three ways, and this is what I need help with.

Right now I'm running a G network. I've got my 360, multifunction, and HD-DVR running Ethernet to the router. PS3, one-three laptops, media server, DS, PSP, EEE PC, and PDA running through wireless.

•Enhancement #1: I'm having a really hard time with the security. Every device is picky to something else. The PSP doesn't like TKIP, the EEE PC doesn't like AES. The PS3 barely tolerates WPA at all. The only way I can get them all working friendly is to turn off encryption and use MAC auth, which is not as secure as I'd like it to be. What's the "friendliest" standard for all types of OS's?
•Enhancement #2: I've got a wireless extender that is sitting unused because it's also picky to certain standards. I don't think I'll need it much because I bought the newest version of the Linksys G router and it seems pretty stable at long distances, but my question is, could I potentially use that extender to do Enhancement #3, which is....
•Enhancement #3: I plan to have guests infrequently. I don't want them on my network or having access to my resources. They can have internet unfiltered but nothing from my infrastructure. I also want to cap their available bandwidth to the equivalent of a low end DSL connection - no time limits or anything, just the amount of throughput at any time. Also, I want them to have a separate SSID. What's the best way to accomplish this? For those curious as to my reasons, I have a lot of CDs ripped off to my media server, PS3, 360, etc...and I don't want it even presumed that I "shared" that music. Paranoid, maybe, but I'd rather just cut it off at the pass.

Thanks in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20745800 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:10:48 EDT