grendel
join:2008-10-23
canada
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Re: How to defeat the throttle
I've noticed this past month that the 1723 port is getting consistantly throttled. I have about 15 minutes of full speed, then about 15 minutes at 70K down before i get throttled to 30Kup and 30K down.
Most likely due to the fact that the DPI is being 'tuned.' I'm sure Bell has noticed that VPN use had gone _way_ up the past few months. 
I have found a way around it that works everytime so far.
You just have to rotate things around. I set my DSL router to re-connect every four hours. This gets me a new IP address.
Plus each day I use a different port number. I have about a dozen which seem to not get throttled. I use UPnP so I don't have to worry about re-configuring my router each time.
By doing this I haven't been throttled for long. Since I'm a Star Trek geek I imediately think of 'rotating phaser frequencies' but remember, the Borg will eventually adapt.
Gren. |
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Anonymous Coward
"you assume encrypted packets you don't recognize are torrent packets"
thats discrimination and is saying im guilty of a behaviour without proof.
If i were a lawyer that woud be akin to say that cause i am black i do crime there fore we should just lock up all black people.
WRONG. You can't see what is encrypted and thats also what has a class action lawsuit on you. You are using that deep packet inspection to try and tell what my private data is, and under the privacy act thats against the law. Watch bell eventually lose this ability in court as well.
Just cause you provide me with a tunnel under the bridge does not mean you can put a camera in my car to watch me in my car nor what i do going through that tunnel.
Merry christmas and happy new year all. |
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ofelas
join:2008-11-16
Irving, TX | reply to Anonymous Coward
Hi all, does this work on Bittorrent 6.1.1?
Thx. |
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moggy
join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Anonymous Coward
I use wget.exe with script to auto change my port in utorrent every 15 minutes
»WEBUINAME:WEBUIPASSWORD@localhos···RT” -O- -q
create a task schedule and set for every 15 minutes |
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Zap
@bell.ca | reply to Anonymous Coward
Anyone have tutorials for osx users with Vuze (Azureus)? I'm on a PowerPC system which Utorrent doesn't support yet.
Thanks. |
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davidbrown
join:2005-05-31
Toronto, ON
·Bell Sympatico
1 edit | reply to sbrook
said by sbrook  :Mr Brown, were it the case that only the packet headers were examined, then there would be no need for "Deep" Packet Inspection. It would simply be header inspection. Torrent protocols are readily identifiable, not from the headers (lots of other things, not just the few previously reported, would get snagged as torrents were this the case) but from patterns within the data portion of the packets. When you start encrypting packets, the requirement reverses, you assume encrypted packets you don't recognize are torrent packets, and you let everything else through. True i did rather over simply things but i did that for a reason.
He doesn't really seem to have much understanding of how it works so i stuck with the very basics.
That all being said this method isn't totally without merit since the more encrypted traffic it needs to go through the harder it becomes to filter.
For those wishing more of a advantage i would try the latest beta of utorrnet as its doing a fairly decent job of getting around this issue. |
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Anonymous Coward
I've tried this method, and it doesn't seem to work for me. I've opened up 1723 in my router, uTorrent is using it, I see the green arrow indicating all's well, but I'm still throttled at 30 kB/s.
My router has some VPN options that can be set. It talks about the "PPTP Working Mode" and it can be set to "Transparent Mode," or "Standard Client Mode," or "Standard Server Mode."
Currently it's at the default selection of Transparent Mode. Would this have anything to do with this? |
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the_english_man
@bell.ca
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Wow - this method works as of....well, today! Only thing is that I'm using BitTorrent which I think is suppose to be the non-modified version of uTorrent.
quote:
"With great power comes great responsibility"
-Uncle Ben
Also, about 30 minutes in it did dip below 100KB/s, but that dip (70KB/s) was A LOT more than the throttled peak of 35KB/s I was getting before. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| reply to Anonymous Coward
I'm stuck on a Bell connection for the holidays. I tried the general tricks. Port 1723 in uTorrent, force encryption, try uTP in the 1.9 alpha.
None of this worked reliably (speeds were pretty poor).
I eventually got fed up and plugged in my WRT54GL that I had brought with me, and used my TekSavvy login and MLPPP. Full speeds and no messing around with settings. And I'm not using up my parents bandwidth when I download stuff either, since it's my account. |
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vger
@bell.ca | reply to Anonymous Coward
Throttling seems to be off on the weekends. Right now I've got one going at 553kb which is 10x as fast as on a weeknight (usually 25-30kb then).
Without using these adjustments. |
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soondeleted
@cgocable.net
1 edit | reply to chronoss2009
There you go again with the law suits and lawyers. |
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davidbrown
join:2005-05-31
Toronto, ON
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Sadly burying you encrypted torrent traffic in other encrypted traffic does nothing more then delay thing if your lucky.
Eventually the deep packet inspection sees the torrent traffic and its clear as day pattern of traffic and kills things again.
Utorrent utp (end of the internet..lol) 1.9 beta version do effectively the same thing and by you some time.
Problem is wrapping the tcp does little more then slow things down and in the end does nothing to hide the bitorrent pattern.
Guess overloading the internet with utorrnet isn't going to happen...lol. |
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davidbrown
join:2005-05-31
Toronto, ON
·Bell Sympatico
1 edit | reply to chronoss2009
said by chronoss2009 :"you assume encrypted packets you don't recognize are torrent packets" thats discrimination and is saying im guilty of a behaviour without proof. If i were a lawyer that woud be akin to say that cause i am black i do crime there fore we should just lock up all black people. WRONG. You can't see what is encrypted and thats also what has a class action lawsuit on you. You are using that deep packet inspection to try and tell what my private data is, and under the privacy act thats against the law. Watch bell eventually lose this ability in court as well. Just cause you provide me with a tunnel under the bridge does not mean you can put a camera in my car to watch me in my car nor what i do going through that tunnel. Merry christmas and happy new year all. In the real world money win more often then not.
They have clearly in print admitted to doing deep packet inspection and continue to do so without anyone being able to stop them.
With the crtc in their pocket and only two providers they can basically do whatever they feel like.
Ever changing contracts.
Caps
Throttling
Pay per gb
Block sites they don't approve of
And so on.
Doesn't sound much like we won does it. |
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beatsme
@teksavvy.com
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Wow. I can confirm that this definitely does unthrottle (or bypass the throttle... w/e) the connection. I went from 15k/s download to 150k/s download. I had to power cycle a few times though.
Go CTRC ruling! Go secure VPN traffic!... and suck it Bell! |
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Frigo
@bell.ca | In montreal, works for me also, went from 25 kbps to 350+
Only draw back, seems like the seeder amounts are limited to the ones that use encyrption. |
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snipes78
join:2009-01-21
Windsor, ON
1 edit | said by Frigo :
In montreal, works for me also, went from 25 kbps to 350+
Only draw back, seems like the seeder amounts are limited to the ones that use encyrption.
Same thing here in windsor.... |
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tkoozz
@bell.ca | reply to Anonymous Coward
Anyone have any tutorials for Azureus (Vuze) for the Mac?
Thanks!! |
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pfft Bell tuts
@videotron.ca | Tutorial for defeating the throttle:
a) Change ISP to one that supports MLPPP
b) if in QC, change to cable.
That's it. |
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johnvdub
join:2004-08-21 | reply to Frigo
What method are u using again? to unthrottle |
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hillybilly
@bell.ca
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Anyone having trouble with the 2wire 2701HG-G modem?
I did everything in utorrent and port forwarded port 1723 as TCP only in the modem....the speeds are the same with no change even after rebooting a couple of times..
Do I need to port forward a UDP port as well? Which one?? |
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