PerVices
join:2008-07-08
2 edits | reply to Anonymous Coward
Re: How to defeat the throttle
Hi,
We have posted a guide on a possible method to overcome the Bell Canada throttle. It is available here:
»pervices.com/docs/throttling_tech_brief.pdf
It include sample configurations for uTorrent and KTorrent.
We would be interested if this technique works for you. Note that it may take a while to work, as it is possible that the DPI device 'remembers' if you use BitTorrent.
So far, we have used this method to use peer-to-peer communication over a third party ISP network (Tek Savvy). We do not know if this will work for Sympatico customers.
If this technique works for you, we would very much appreciate you telling us your ISP name, so we can learn more about how Bell Canada throttles traffic.
Please note that we use Linux exclusively, so we may not be the best source for uTorrent questions (uTorrent is a windows client).
Warm Regards,
Victor Wollesen
Applied Research
Per Vices Corporation |
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Superhero Smith
@bell.ca
|  Thanks, PerVices!
Followed your instructions for utorrent... didn't work until I rebooted the DSL modem, resetting the connection...a standard Bell Sympatico connection. WOOO!
Spread the word, it'll work if you do it right. Let's make them eat their tyranny just in case the CRTC doesn't. |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON | reply to PerVices
Awesome, thanks a bunch for posting this. I'll give it a try and see how it goes. I really enjoyed reading your submission to the CRTC, you made a lot of good points. I really hope this will be over soon.
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moggy
join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON | reply to Anonymous Coward
Woot works for me went form 30kb/s to 300kb/s
using utorrent 1.8 11200 bell 2wire 2701hg modem
4 days left on my bell connection and then my TekSavvy account activates . |
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Jorge23
join:2007-09-11
Toronto
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Worked in BitComet 0.93 too.
Switch listen port to 1723.
And go to Advanced>Connection and beside protocol encryption put "always".
Of course you'll have to set up your ports for whatever client you use. Instructions on how to do so @ www.portforward.com
Thanks guys. |
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oxymoron69
join:2004-11-10
Belleville, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
2 edits | reply to Anonymous Coward
After failing in utorrent/xp...
I've rebooted into ubuntu hardy and installed ktorrent and set it up using port 1723.
I can confirm going from 25K/s in xp to running at full line speeed in ubuntu. It didn't work initally, so i power cycled my 6520 and was up to full speed within 45 seconds.
Thanks perverts! You're the shit!
**strangely enough, i've just rebooted back into xp and now it seems to run once again at full speed.
I haven't changed anything in my settings, it just seems to be working now without any further intervention other than it running port 1723 in utorrent.
oh yeah, and I submitted this to Digg... |
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BellACancer
join:2008-06-04
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Ça ne fonctionne absolument pas pour moi.
J'ai suivi attentivement les instructions. J'utilisais déjà l'encryption avant les modifications du document et ma vitesse était d'environ 80 kb/s. Maintenant, elle n'est plus que de 40 kb/s.
Même le numéro de port dans le PDF indique 1753 mais partout ailleurs, c'est écris 1723. Une autre erreur bizarre ?
Bon, j'ai essayé les 2 ports, j'ai éteint/rallumé le modem (je n'ai pas de routeur). La vitesse n'augmente pas.
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Absolutely doesn't work for me.
I followed instructions very carefully. I was using encrpytion prior to these modifications and my speed was about 80 kb/s and now, after that, it's down to 40 kb/s max.
Even the port number in the pdf indicates 1753 but in the news front page, it says 1723. Some weird mistakes ?
Anyway, I tried both ports and tried with reset modem (I don't have a router). The speed won't increase. |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON
| reply to Jorge23
My only concern with having forced encryption on is that you can only connect and transfer to other people who also have encryption enabled. I have found before when doing that that it is more difficult to get transfers going at a decent speed.
But I guess nowadays more and more people are using encryption for torrent transfers so maybe this will become less of an issue.
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-theninjasquad |
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Bell_Abused
join:2006-10-07
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to BellACancer
said by BellACancer  :Bon, j'ai essayé les 2 ports, j'ai éteint/rallumé le modem (je n'ai pas de routeur). La vitesse n'augmente pas. ************************************************************ Try the dirtections given here in this PDF:
»pervices.com/docs/throttling_tech_brief.pdf
If it still fails, dunno. |
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svtcanuk
join:2006-01-14 | Are these port number (1723, 500,50,51) the same for a Mac? |
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yopliat
@videotron.ca
| said by svtcanuk :Are these port number (1723, 500,50,51) the same for a Mac? It would be standard for any OS/platform |
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mulambo187
join:2008-06-18
North York, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Anonymous Coward
so yeah yesterday this method didn't work for me, but a power cycle of the modem seems to have done the trick. its 7pm in Toronto right now, and i was getting 200kB/s+ down from a private tracker. normally this particular torrent would max out my connection but i think with the forced encryption, it must cut out a lot of the available peers? anyhow a lot better then 20-60kB/s
cheers |
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svtcanuk
join:2006-01-14
| reply to yopliat
said by yopliat :said by svtcanuk :Are these port number (1723, 500,50,51) the same for a Mac? It would be standard for any OS/platform I had a lot of problems with 500, 50, 51, Azurreus kept reporting the ports unavailable. I have no idea what program is using the ports. I used 1701 instead and everything is working now. |
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PerVices
join:2008-07-08
| reply to BellACancer
Dear BellACancer,
We've added some notes to our initial document speculating on why this works for some people. It is available at the same link as the original.
Could you please find out if you have unthrottled VPN access?
Specifically, see if, when connecting through a VPN, you are throttled. If you are, please let us know.
Warm regards,
Victor Wollesen
Applied Research
Per Vices Corporation |
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svtcanuk
join:2006-01-14 | Would you like us to let you know in this forum or via an email? |
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Throttled Man
@bell.ca | So do we need to change the setting back to default when we are not getting throttled or leave this setting permanent?
Thanks in advance
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Anonymuzz
@bell.ca | reply to Anonymous Coward
It appears as if this temporarily works (for upwards to a few hours) before I'm throttled again. Restarting the modem seems to remedy this momentarily, but it appears as if the throttling has started back up again as of this post. |
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mulambo187
join:2008-06-18
North York, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Anonymous Coward
false hopes im still throttled too
yeah this technique seemed to work hitting 200kb/s for a bit, but watching the speed tab in utorrent i can clearly see that around 9pm to 1am i was capped at around 20kB/s down and between 1 and 2am it was 40kB/s and for the rest of the night i never broke 200kB/s, and honestly i probably should have hit 450kB/s at least a few times with these torrents and my connection. bell u suck!!! |
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ardo
join:2001-12-20
North York, ON
| reply to Anonymous Coward
Re: How to defeat the throttle
Didn't work for me (DD-WRT on the router, ST516 modem). I reset the modem & started downloading Ubuntu with 300+ peers available, got the usual throttled 25-30K download speed. Tried again this morning & was downloading at full speed. In addition, utorrent now says that my ports are closed, even though nothing is reported in router log and in Outpost software firewall log. I did change my port forwarding settings in the router & firewall rules, but utorrent reports that 1723 is closed. |
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PerVices
join:2008-07-08 | reply to Anonymous Coward
To those who are still throttled
Do you have unthrottled VPN access? Or is that being throttled too? |
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