Deadpool
Go Sens Go
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join:2001-03-29
Canada
 ·Bell Sympatico
| reply to ardo
Re: How to defeat the throttle
I do believe that you may be actually bypassing the throttling, however at the same time, I also believe that because the configuration is set to "Forced Encryption" and also to not allow legacy connections, that you'll only be able to download from those who also (at least), have Encryption enabled.
I tested this myself last night and was successful, however I never able to max out my download speeds (never went over 100 KBps). But my upload maxed out within a minute and stayed that way.
Again, my understanding of how BT works leads me to believe that it will only work well if there are many seeds/peers who also have Encryption enabled. Otherwise, it doesn't.
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Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. |
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Neenja
@bell.ca | reply to Anonymous Coward
Godly 400+ kbps i thank you so much, finally. |
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lesurfer
join:2008-06-28 | reply to Anonymous Coward
Nice, getting full speeds now.
Thank you OP and whoever discovered the method. |
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MrMichael
@ucc-net.ca | reply to Anonymous Coward
The next obvious question then:
Will this work for cable isp's also (Shaw/Rogers)? |
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ardo
join:2001-12-20
North York, ON
| reply to Deadpool
said by Deadpool  :Again, my understanding of how BT works leads me to believe that it will only work well if there are many seeds/peers who also have Encryption enabled. Otherwise, it doesn't. Makes sense. I rarely download well-seeded torrents. After fixing my port forwarding problem (I totally forgot that my ST516 is no longer in bridge mode, duh), I re-ran my test with an Ubuntu download and DID see a difference. Like you said, downloads never maxed out, but the uploads did. So the 'hack' appears to be working.
Then again, since most of my torrents aren't well-seeded, I may as well stop wasting time |
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oxymoron69
join:2004-11-10
Belleville, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
2 edits | reply to Deadpool
Well deadpool, it's a good thing the majority of folks that use Private Sites also use encrypted clients.
I've been able to max out my DL 600+K/s many times, you just have to get your shit from educated swarms.
Also, check out »https://eztv.it even the site is in SSL 
So how does Bell like that we're getting around your demon boxes with minimal effort? Good call spending all that money when it can be circumvented with a few keystrokes and a reset of the modem every now and then BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16
4 edits | reply to Anonymous Coward
all i can say sweeet  :might i add i'm on 16max s0o called sympatico best got too offer internet, anyways changed port # i only can get 500 well max :P if i'm lucky and for some reason my upload keep switching on me i put low it goes higher ?  thanks for the tip anyways once again I say THIS SITE ROCKS !!!! |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
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join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to oxymoron69
I disagree that most Private Sites use encrypted clients. I use a few and have yet to be able to max out my connection with very well seeded torrents.
Also, according to recent research, only 20% of total BT users even use encryption.
That aside, those in the Teksavvy forum had a workaround figured out for quite some time now by using MLPPP.
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svtcanuk
join:2006-01-14
| said by Deadpool :That aside, those in the Teksavvy forum had a workaround figured out for quite some time now by using MLPPP. To bad we can't do this  |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
| reply to Anonymous Coward
I have done my own testing while on Bell's 16mbit ADSLv2 service and I have been able to max out my connection completely by using BT via encryption on stated ports from many different sources as long as there was allot of seeds present.
Last Result:
Download Speed: 13702 kbps (1712.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 803 kbps (100.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
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Bell Sympatico - Total Internet Max - 16 Mbit Connection
Download Speed: 13903 kbps (1737.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 883 kbps (110.4 KB/sec transfer rate) |
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AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16
1 edit | hey DS i would like hear what torrent u download s0o i can possibly do little my own testing tell u right now i don't get 1700KB/sec max i ever gotten torrent or not or just http is 1500kb/s Max :P???? reason for this speed is still not figured out well by me that is complained many times but i guess that's best i could get ? guess 0.3km is way too far receive full amount speed i'm guessing :P |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
1 edit | I'm physically at least 2 km wire distance from the nearest CO, I have tested BT with quality seeded torrents from thepiratebay and demonoid.
ADSLv2 is far better with longer distances then normal ADSLv1, another reason why Wholesale providers are being held back by Bell and not just by speed but quality of service they provide.
(To even provide 5mbps+ service on ADSLv2 would allow more clients to obtain quality service in all areas that support it and from my understanding there is pretty much nearly almost no area that has DSL in Ontario that doesn't support ADSLv2 at the DSLAM or Remote.) |
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AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16
2 edits |  reply to Anonymous Coward
k lucky for me i am in Montreal area throttled hard if u asked me? on 16 mbps but receiving 12-13 or s0 mbps :P is this worth the money they asking for i think not not now anyways all throttling and unlimited costing now not real being unlimited  ???even still ADSLv1, is best for gaming they say yes ADSLv2 is better but that doesn't explain why in cs=counter strike or any game online for that matter, serious throttled lagged and kicked off the server for my ping being over 200!!! bell is really screwing around with people these days, guess bell just got 2 head of it self and full over paid lawyers and s0o0 called staff!!!
for all advertisement they do ,should at lest have better pricing dam over over priced is this number #1 company best pricing can u say HUSTLED >? we should all no BY NOW THEY FALSE ADVERTISE as well !!!!!  |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
1 edit | I have lower pings and faster speeds on 16meg ADSLv2 then I never had on 5meg ADSLv1.
All depends on distance and what kind of modem you have (critical in my opinion).
The 2wire 2701-HG modem is one of the best I have ever gotten from Bell, all the low quality SpeedStream modems could barely handle hundreds of inbound and outbound connections per second, but the 2wire can and does not impact performance for other computers connected at the same time. |
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AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16
1 edit |  reply to Anonymous Coward
have 2 wire problem why am i 200kb off even thoe 16mps is =2470kb/s forget about header 15% lost whatever technicality is why am i not getting full amount ??? 1700kb/sec is max best bell got offer not cheap mind u :P
this is not fiber optic if u ask me nothing max about it :P either |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
4 edits | reply to Anonymous Coward
If anyone wants to try downloading at even close to full download speeds to see if their connection can do it, then download the link below with/without a Download Manager.
»tinyurl.com/627dca
File Name: 7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
File Size: 34450 KB
(This download file will remain public for the next 24 hours)
I personally just tried downloading this FBSD test file and I got an average speed of 1250 KB/Sec and other times I am even able to download at a sustained speed of 1475 KB/Sec.
Downloading from one HTTP/FTP server and no others at once, will cause the connection speed not to obtain the max because of limitation on the server and/or network path from the server to you.
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Bell Sympatico - Total Internet Max - 16 Mbit Connection
Download Speed: 13903 kbps (1737.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 883 kbps (110.4 KB/sec transfer rate) |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
| reply to Deadpool
said by Deadpool :I do believe that you may be actually bypassing the throttling, however at the same time, I also believe that because the configuration is set to "Forced Encryption" and also to not allow legacy connections, that you'll only be able to download from those who also (at least), have Encryption enabled. I tested this myself last night and was successful, however I never able to max out my download speeds (never went over 100 KBps). But my upload maxed out within a minute and stayed that way. Again, my understanding of how BT works leads me to believe that it will only work well if there are many seeds/peers who also have Encryption enabled. Otherwise, it doesn't. I've done great research in this matter and just because out of let's say 20 seeds you are downloading a torrent from that have 100% completed sources, just because not all (or any) have encryption on, does not mean it will not work.
I was able to download with BT at a max speed of 1320 KB/Sec with an upload speed of 20 KB/Sec, with zero throttling apparent for at least 12 hours. |
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AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16
1 edit |  reply to Anonymous Coward
DS
THAT goes dido for me with torrents but only .9-1.1mb/s max able to get? for download that's the max i could get :P see i am slower then you not close enough co or ????it odd seems im only off 200 i brake even 1500kb second all time is this sounding odd amount because i was downloading before with 7mb profile 500kb/s even all time now it 1500kb/sec basically pay for 1000kb=1mb more of speed correct=$$$=pricless sympathetic inc.. |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
4 edits | The reason you could even obtain over 10mbit download speeds is because the server the file is on, is located in Chicago on premium bandwidth with very low saturated 100mbit link.
This test isn't absolute and just because you can't download at full 14megs (1735 KB/Sec or more) doesn't mean there is anything wrong with your connection.
Your download speed is perfect for 16meg connection and I just suggest getting torrents from thepiratebay and/or demoniod that have large amount of seeds and low peer ratio.
16 Meg connection you get up-to the following.
1735 KB/Sec Down (+/- 50)
100 KB/Sec Upload (+/- 10) |
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AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16
| reply to Anonymous Coward
OK DS RESONE FOR THIS BEING? WHY IS IT 200KB OFF OR NOT ABLE GET 200 KB I'M MISSING NOT THAT IT MATTERS  AS I NO 1500/KB IS BEST I CAN GET WITCH U SAID UR SELF NOT EVEN 14MBPS PROFILE WHATS POINT SAYING 16MB IS IT JUST FACT TRY SELL SOMETHING THEY WONT GIVE ONCE AGIN I SAY FALSE ADVERTISEMENT SORRY about caps i started with it didnt notice s0o i left it like that.... |
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