Topic 'How to defeat the throttle' in forum 'Bell Canada' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/How-to-defeat-the-throttle-20755668 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:07:06 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:07:06 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22740694 said by davey6693:

Under "Connection":
use 1723 tcp listen port, 50 udp listen port (make sure you forward port 50 on your router, it was not forwarded by default on mine, but 1723 was). If you do make a router change, reset the router and your modem to push the changes through.

On "transport encrytion": Turn on encrypted transport, using RC4 encryption and only enable the "allow" checkbox for outgoing connections.
Yeah!!!

I just did this with my Vuze/router (although not on a Mac) ...either way, it worked. I went from 30 KB/s per direction up to at least 300. Wonderful.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22740694 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:30:52 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22700287 That doc use to work for high bandwidth usersIt did and still does, with one additional bit of finesse when you get re-throttled. The answer is in my previous post. Works every time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22700287 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:18:08 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22697028
The low bandwith users don't seem to be recapped as I has tried it on my cousin's line and its fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22697028 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:05:07 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22687806 renew downloaded copy of the p.v. doc and read it. Your answer is there and I would point you to the necessary part, but no time since I gotta go eat my dinner. Yum - French Canadian pea soup!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22687806 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:12:39 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22677395 pervices.com/index.php)

I was getting 50KB/s speeds. After making the changes, my download speeds went up to 100KB/s + which is still crap but better than it was before.

I opened up port 1723 and configured all the others suggested in the doc. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22677395 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:31:30 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22665363 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22665363 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:40:42 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22665100
LK]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22665100 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:10:42 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22665073 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22665073 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:29:15 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22664576
Under "Connection":
use 1723 tcp listen port, 50 udp listen port (make sure you forward port 50 on your router, it was not forwarded by default on mine, but 1723 was). If you do make a router change, reset the router and your modem to push the changes through.

On "transport encrytion": Turn on encrypted transport, using RC4 encryption and only enable the "allow" checkbox for outgoing connections.

28 kbps before, now it is topping out at 320 kbps!! Nice work guys, thanks a millon. And FU Bell - I'm not paying 50 a month for an "always fast" service that isn't always fast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22664576 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:43:34 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22648679
Loa]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22648679 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:52:25 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22647022 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22647022 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:54:24 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22646981
»www.ultravpn.fr/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22646981 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:44:31 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22646903
//www.ultravpn.fr/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22646903 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:32:49 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22646200
I got 6 very well and very large torrents running: spent the day at maximum connection speed...

If anyone has any advice, I sure would like to hear it!

Loa]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22646200 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:55:20 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22644235
Loa]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22644235 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:31:36 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22642708
Tried 500 port. works like a charm. Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22642708 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:23:01 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22642700 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22642700 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:22:26 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22642619
First post here (long time lurker though).

Sorry to revive this oldish thread, but you guys are the only resource I can trust on this issue.

I followed the pdf's instructions to the letter on uTorrent (for Mac, but all the prefs are there), but I can't manage to bypass the throttle. Port is 1723 (tried the others from the pdf too), no randomization, restarted the modem and got a new address, no DHT.

No joy... still at around 28KB/s.

Has anything changed since May the 16th?

Thx,

Loa]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22642619 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:01:10 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22399170 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22399170 Sat, 16 May 2009 17:06:08 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22361929 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22361929 Fri, 08 May 2009 23:11:18 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22360445 connection):
»wiki.vuze.com/index.php/Avoid_tr···_shaping

I'm in Windsor, Ontario with an ISP using Bell's lines and was getting throttled to 20kb/s at 4:30pm each day. After implementing these changes I'm back to saturating my connection (as at 5:02pm)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22360445 Fri, 08 May 2009 17:02:16 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22359847 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22359847 Fri, 08 May 2009 15:05:18 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22355597 can someone please help me?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22355597 Thu, 07 May 2009 18:26:01 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22355252 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22355252 Thu, 07 May 2009 17:07:02 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22354322 First time I tried it didn't work, so I started all over again and now i get over 600kb/s...

Screw off Bell!

proof ---> »i39.tinypic.com/2rdjfwm.jpg]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22354322 Thu, 07 May 2009 14:05:34 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22345221
For those that it doesn't work for, go back to step one, ALL settings must be correct, not just your port setting of 1723.

there have been quite a few saying 'my port 1732 or port 1753 doesn't work!' VPN is 1723, not 1732 nor 1753, . Any UPNP or port randomizing will nullify the effect.

Bell simply cannot and will not invest the resources to crack and monitor VPN encrypted tunnels, regardless of legality. They're a bunch of cheap bastards, we all know that, so do you really believe they have an 'Echelon' level infrastructure capable of cracking thousands of encrypted VPN tunnels every second?

BTW, doing this doesn't mean you are automatically going to run maxxed out at peak bandwidth. Like anything else on the internet, your bandwidth is the result of MANY factors, slow computers/servers, slow routers, slow backbones, and much much more..

{edited for trolling/flaming - mod}]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22345221 Tue, 05 May 2009 20:50:30 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22334438
Set port to 1723.
Disabled DHT

Waited... 30 second... from 30kb/s to 300kb/s (and getting faster!)

THANKS !

What a great feeling to know that this ******** company can just go **** itself.

Next step : Get rid of my Bell cellphone contract (20$ by remaining month to cancel... tose f**** a*******)

Have a nice day ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22334438 Sun, 03 May 2009 20:32:00 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22309669 I read that Rogers also throttle speeds, but I was always able to download torrents at 700-800 kb/s with Rogers.
Bell clearly throttle speeds, the most i can get is 30 kb/s, sometimes 50 kb/s.
I tried the method suggested here, chose 1723 as the port, forwarded it (i get green checkmark in utorrent), unchecked the boxes and set protocol encryption to "forced", but it doesn't seem to work - i`m downloading 2 highly seeded movies at 30 kb/s combined.

can anyone help me?

thanks :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22309669 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:36:01 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22054942
Christian]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-22054942 Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:27 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21836858
I did everything in utorrent and port forwarded port 1723 as TCP only in the modem....the speeds are the same with no change even after rebooting a couple of times..

Do I need to port forward a UDP port as well? Which one??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21836858 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:26:26 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21827895 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21827895 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:23 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21825440
a) Change ISP to one that supports MLPPP
b) if in QC, change to cable.

That's it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21825440 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:02:05 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21825380
Thanks!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21825380 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:39:04 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21779736 said by Frigo :

In montreal, works for me also, went from 25 kbps to 350+

Only draw back, seems like the seeder amounts are limited to the ones that use encyrption.
Same thing here in windsor....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21779736 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:30:17 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21778888
Only draw back, seems like the seeder amounts are limited to the ones that use encyrption.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21778888 Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:25:32 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21755806
Go CTRC ruling! Go secure VPN traffic!... and suck it Bell!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21755806 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:17:38 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21700754 said by chronoss2009:

"you assume encrypted packets you don't recognize are torrent packets"

thats discrimination and is saying im guilty of a behaviour without proof.

If i were a lawyer that woud be akin to say that cause i am black i do crime there fore we should just lock up all black people.

WRONG. You can't see what is encrypted and thats also what has a class action lawsuit on you. You are using that deep packet inspection to try and tell what my private data is, and under the privacy act thats against the law. Watch bell eventually lose this ability in court as well.

Just cause you provide me with a tunnel under the bridge does not mean you can put a camera in my car to watch me in my car nor what i do going through that tunnel.

Merry christmas and happy new year all.
In the real world money win more often then not.
They have clearly in print admitted to doing deep packet inspection and continue to do so without anyone being able to stop them.

With the crtc in their pocket and only two providers they can basically do whatever they feel like.
Ever changing contracts.
Caps
Throttling
Pay per gb
Block sites they don't approve of

And so on.

Doesn't sound much like we won does it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21700754 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:28:53 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21700715
Eventually the deep packet inspection sees the torrent traffic and its clear as day pattern of traffic and kills things again.

Utorrent utp (end of the internet..lol) 1.9 beta version do effectively the same thing and by you some time.

Problem is wrapping the tcp does little more then slow things down and in the end does nothing to hide the bitorrent pattern.

Guess overloading the internet with utorrnet isn't going to happen...lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21700715 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:22:02 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21643416 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21643416 Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:16:39 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21643158
Without using these adjustments.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21643158 Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:03:19 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21635957
None of this worked reliably (speeds were pretty poor).

I eventually got fed up and plugged in my WRT54GL that I had brought with me, and used my TekSavvy login and MLPPP. Full speeds and no messing around with settings. And I'm not using up my parents bandwidth when I download stuff either, since it's my account.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21635957 Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:49:00 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21635887
quote:
"With great power comes great responsibility"
-Uncle Ben


Also, about 30 minutes in it did dip below 100KB/s, but that dip (70KB/s) was A LOT more than the throttled peak of 35KB/s I was getting before.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21635887 Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:26:15 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21623016
My router has some VPN options that can be set. It talks about the "PPTP Working Mode" and it can be set to "Transparent Mode," or "Standard Client Mode," or "Standard Server Mode."

Currently it's at the default selection of Transparent Mode. Would this have anything to do with this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21623016 Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:48:50 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21619773 said by sbrook:

Mr Brown, were it the case that only the packet headers were examined, then there would be no need for "Deep" Packet Inspection. It would simply be header inspection.

Torrent protocols are readily identifiable, not from the headers (lots of other things, not just the few previously reported, would get snagged as torrents were this the case) but from patterns within the data portion of the packets. When you start encrypting packets, the requirement reverses, you assume encrypted packets you don't recognize are torrent packets, and you let everything else through.
True i did rather over simply things but i did that for a reason.
He doesn't really seem to have much understanding of how it works so i stuck with the very basics.

That all being said this method isn't totally without merit since the more encrypted traffic it needs to go through the harder it becomes to filter.

For those wishing more of a advantage i would try the latest beta of utorrnet as its doing a fairly decent job of getting around this issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21619773 Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:09:14 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21615835
Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21615835 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:15:18 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21592707
»WEBUINAME:WEBUIPASSWORD@localhos···RT” -O- -q

create a task schedule and set for every 15 minutes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21592707 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:30:34 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21589757 Thx.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21589757 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:09:21 EDT Re: How to defeat the throttle http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21588919
thats discrimination and is saying im guilty of a behaviour without proof.

If i were a lawyer that woud be akin to say that cause i am black i do crime there fore we should just lock up all black people.

WRONG. You can't see what is encrypted and thats also what has a class action lawsuit on you. You are using that deep packet inspection to try and tell what my private data is, and under the privacy act thats against the law. Watch bell eventually lose this ability in court as well.

Just cause you provide me with a tunnel under the bridge does not mean you can put a camera in my car to watch me in my car nor what i do going through that tunnel.

Merry christmas and happy new year all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-defeat-the-throttle-21588919 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:05:42 EDT