 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Meanwhile... Back in the real world:
- Unleaded gasoline is well over $4 a gallon.
- The price of Natural gas is about to break another record.
- Food inflation is through the roof.
- There are 20 million or more illegal aliens infesting this country.
- The economy is slowing.
Thankfully the Democrat party is right on top of all the real problems facing this country. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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 | Wow, the Democrat (sic) Party did all that in a year and a half?
They've been busier than I thought. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | said by ElJay:Wow, the Democrat (sic) Party did all that in a year and a half? They've been busier than I thought. Well, there are less than 4 months to go before the election. My guess is the Democrat party won't bother with dealing with any of these problems because having a disgruntled electorate will probably favor them in the general election. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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 | reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Unleaded gasoline is well over $4 a gallon. Not a problem. Supply and demand. It is interesting that people forget that gasoline prices are determined by the world market, especially free market cheerleaders.
The price of Natural gas is about to break another record. Supply and demand again.
Food inflation is through the roof. And again... Supply and demand, partly driven by the moronic idea to make ethanol from corn.
There are 20 million or more illegal aliens infesting this country. Arguably a problem that government can solve.
The economy is slowing. A problem created by poor business poorly handling credit and lending...
So, of the problems you presented, only one of them is a problem that could be solved by government. -- --- Over ten plus years of carrying The Clue Bat... |
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 | reply to pnh102 pnh102, please have the courtesy to use the name that the party has given itself: the Democratic Party. Otherwise, you are just using a made-up name, and if insult is intended, then that sure will put a damper on any discussion. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | said by viperlmw:pnh102, please have the courtesy to use the name that the party has given itself: the Democratic Party. I'd rather call them something different entirely. However, since this is a family-friendly website, I will stick with "Democrat Party."
Besides, after seeing the mess of a nomination process over the past year, I don't think anyone can reasonably conclude that that there is anything "democratic" about the Democrat party. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | reply to NetAdmin1 said by NetAdmin1:Not a problem. Supply and demand. It is interesting that people forget that gasoline prices are determined by the world market, especially free market cheerleaders. If only there was a free market for oil. In Mexico for example, gas is $2.50 a gallon due to subsidies. The same is true in other countries like India, China and Venezuela. Most countries which export oil do so through state-owned companies which are inherently inferior to private companies.
Only raising supplies will result in lower prices for oil. It worked in the 1980s and it will work now. As in demand is high and supply is low. And again, it is because the government restricts supply. Why isn't the Democrat party allowing for more natural gas exploration?
said by NetAdmin1:And again... Supply and demand, partly driven by the moronic idea to make ethanol from corn. That I agree with. If I had my way, I would ban corn-based ethanol altogether, as it is an absolute failure.
said by NetAdmin1:Arguably a problem that government can solve. And it should. What are they waiting for?
said by NetAdmin1:A problem created by poor business poorly handling credit and lending... It doesn't help that the government is bailing out lenders either. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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 | said by pnh102:Only raising supplies will result in lower prices for oil. It worked in the 1980s and it will work now. That assumes enough oil can be drilled out of the ground to match demand. The problem is that demand is growing rapidly as developing economies like China and India join the rest of the modern, industrialized world. There is no way production could keep up. It also doesn't help that a majority of vehicles get poor gas mileage due to the resistance of automakers. There is no excuse for fuel economy to be stuck where it is after years of continuing improvements in engine technology.
As in demand is high and supply is low. And again, it is because the government restricts supply. Why isn't the Democrat party allowing for more natural gas exploration? You seem to underestimate the role that private industry plays in this problem as well. It is not in their interest to increase supply and reduce the price of natural gas.
And it should. What are they waiting for?
Perhaps a workable solution. A problem the size millions of people doesn't get fixed overnight. First and foremost, you have to change the business practices of millions of businesses that create the incentive for migrant workers to cross the border illegally.
It doesn't help that the government is bailing out lenders either. No $hit... I love how it makes sense for the government to bail out companies that make poor financial decisions, but if regular folk make poor decisions, you are screwed. It makes as much sense as giving massive severance packages to execs who are fired for doing crap jobs. -- --- Over ten plus years of carrying The Clue Bat... |
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| reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Back in the real world:
- Unleaded gasoline is well over $4 a gallon.
- The price of Natural gas is about to break another record.
- Food inflation is through the roof.
- There are 20 million or more illegal aliens infesting this country.
- The economy is slowing.
Thankfully the Democrat party is right on top of all the real problems facing this country. Yeah, that's a fact. They sure haven't figured out how to deal with the Republican Legacy, that's for sure. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | said by KrK:Yeah, that's a fact. They sure haven't figured out how to deal with the Republican Legacy, that's for sure. Tough.
The Democrat party knew what it was getting into when it took over Congress. If it is not up to the task of getting things done, then it should step aside and let someone else have a chance to deal with these problems instead.
It is truly the mark of an ineffective leader when he/she blames his/her predecessor for their own inability to deal with a current problem. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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1 edit | said by pnh102:The Democrat party knew what it was getting into when it took over Congress. Damn those Democrats for winning the election, eh!! Fools!!
Maybe they should just step down and we let this country become an official Authoritarian state!
It is truly the mark of an ineffective leader when he/she blames his/her predecessor for their own inability to deal with a current problem. Hey they're working on it. That kinda damage will take time. You know, it's the mark of a blind zealot when they believe that all the problems began with the election of the other party into the majority.... |
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 | reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:said by viperlmw:pnh102, please have the courtesy to use the name that the party has given itself: the Democratic Party. I'd rather call them something different entirely. However, since this is a family-friendly website, I will stick with "Democrat Party." Ok, as long as we know you are intending insult when you use that term, then we also know your bias when discussing issues, meaning you don't discuss: you regurgitate talking points and aren't interested in an exchange of ideas. No problem, as long as we are clear. |
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 lesopp join:2001-06-27 Land O Lakes, FL | reply to KrK They also haven't figured out how to deal with their own 20 year legacy of vilifying energy companies and opposing new oil exploration. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | They sure weren't opposing any around here. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | reply to viperlmw said by viperlmw:Ok, as long as we know you are intending insult when you use that term, then we also know your bias when discussing issues, meaning you don't discuss: you regurgitate talking points and aren't interested in an exchange of ideas. No problem, as long as we are clear. I have to apologize. I never wanted anyone to ever believe I was unbiased.
As for my "talking points," every single one of them is an irrefutable fact. Perhaps if the Democrat party actually proposed some solutions to the problems facing the USA today, instead of whining about BS minutia, then people like me might be proven wrong. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | reply to KrK said by KrK:Maybe they should just step down and we let this country become an official Authoritarian state! Sadly they are proving that this might be a better approach. The Democrat party controlled Congress hasn't done squat since it took over Congress other than whine about Bush. Meanwhile, the problems facing this country continue to mount.
said by KrK:Hey they're working on it. That kinda damage will take time. Where are the results? The Democrat party seems to have no problem holding anti-Bush hearings or whining about other things that don't impact the average American. However, when it comes to dealing with real problems, all we can hear is crickets chirping.
If, for example, the Democrat party actually sent bills to the President that offered actual solutions to the problems I listed and he vetoed them, then you might have a point. This hasn't happened.
said by KrK:You know, it's the mark of a blind zealot when they believe that all the problems began with the election of the other party into the majority.... Where did I make such a claim? But while we are on the subject, gas prices have climbed faster under the Democrat Congress than under the previous GOP Congress. But that's irrelevant as we cannot go back in time. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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| reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:As in demand is high and supply is low. And again, it is because the government restricts supply. Why isn't the Democrat party allowing for more natural gas exploration? You're being conned by political talking points. Oil and Gas companies already have 83 million acres of Federal land leases--- that they haven't developed. Even if we just threw open the gates and said "everywhere is open season" it will make little difference to price, because we have a carefully managed supply situation. The entire distribution system of energy is in the hands of a few big players. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | said by KrK:You're being conned by political talking points. Oil and Gas companies already have 83 million acres of Federal land leases--- that they haven't developed. Probably because there isn't anything there worth taking. Why not open up more areas for drilling instead? This worked in the 1980s when Reagan did it, and the price of oil went from $50 a barrel to $8 a barrel. -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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