MyDogHsFleas
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| What would the point of testifying be, again?
Karl seems to live in some bizarro conspiracy-theory world where major intelligence operations are conducted by a dark, secret, rogue administration, and we need a hero "whistleblower" to blow the cover off the operation.
In reality, the appropriate Congressional committees are briefed routinely, in secret, on classified Intelligence operations. Thus this "whistleblower" testimony would add no new information. All this guy did, in reality, was leak information that he should not have had and that should not have been leaked.
This is the reason why he gets no love from Congress. They know that they are "in the loop", and they know nothing good could result for them from a big, grandstanding Congressional hearing.
The only reason for hearings would be to grandstand and have congresspeople pretend they are outraged by something they already knew and approved. |
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1 edit | It's like straight from the mouth of an AT&T PR shill...
edit: are you an AT&T employee? |
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said by MyDogHsFleas  :Karl seems to live in some bizarro conspiracy-theory world where major intelligence operations are conducted by a dark, secret, rogue administration, and we need a hero "whistleblower" to blow the cover off the operation. Don't know about Karl, but the radio show Democracy Now is definitely run by nuts, for nuts, and about nuts. The guy in the office next to mine listens to it all the time and it's just unbelievable the lunatic stuff they cover on that show. Our 'whistleblower' appearing on that show isn't doing anything at all for his credibility.
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It is interesting you saw this post as a pro at&t and not anti congress. I saw nothing in the post that supported at&ts actions, just a possible explanation as to why Klein was never called to testify. |
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said by morbo :It's like straight from the mouth of an AT&T PR shill... edit: are you an AT&T employee? I'm sure it would make you feel more secure in your fetid little world to think that, so go right ahead. Ad hominem attacks and conspiracy theories are easier than actually paying attention to what I said and responding to its content.
Just in case one tiny portion of your brain lives in reality, and cares about my answer, no, I am not an AT&T employee. I am a consumer. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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said by footballdude :Don't know about Karl, but the radio show Democracy Now is definitely run by nuts, for nuts, and about nuts. The guy in the office next to mine listens to it all the time and it's just unbelievable the lunatic stuff they cover on that show. Our 'whistleblower' appearing on that show isn't doing anything at all for his credibility. To be fair, the right wing has its share of nuts and bolts too. The Democrats have no monopoly on crack-brained jackasses. |
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it would explain your rabid support of AT&T and mocking attitude towards those that support the rule of law. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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| said by morbo :it would explain your rabid support of AT&T and mocking attitude towards those that support the rule of law. I call bullshit.
Exactly how did I "rabidly support AT&T"? I was making a point about Congress' reaction to this "whistleblower" guy. I wasn't even talking about AT&T, much less rabidly supporting it.
You are the one who slammed and mocked me, not the other way around. You tried to dismiss what I said by treating it like PR spin and asking if I was an AT&T employee.
Are you completely unable to set aside your preconceived/preprogrammed narrative about this issue and view it in reality? Are you unable to conceive that someone not paid by AT&T would have the views I do? If so, let me know. Otherwise, let's give up, there's no point continuing this discussion. |
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| sift back through your old posts if you need examples. here's one: »Re: No Immunity!
and etc.
you can say the same thing about me. my "rabid" support for the rule of law and rights guaranteed by the u.s. constitution. i get all caught up in it! |
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| said by morbo :sift back through your old posts if you need examples. here's one: » Re: No Immunity!and etc. you can say the same thing about me. my "rabid" support for the rule of law and rights guaranteed by the u.s. constitution. i get all caught up in it! LOL. I love it when people are able to back up their accusations. |
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said by MyDogHsFleas :The only reason for hearings would be to grandstand and have congresspeople pretend they are outraged by something they already knew and approved. Ding! The winner! This is the reason why the Democratic leadership in Congress isn't going to the mat over this or pushing for impeachment, for example. They know their role in many of these 'scandals' would be shown for all to see.
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said by MyDogHsFleas :world where major intelligence operations are conducted by a dark, secret, rogue administration, Ummm... so you're saying they aren't? |
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MyDogHsFleas
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| said by KrK :said by MyDogHsFleas :world where major intelligence operations are conducted by a dark, secret, rogue administration, Ummm... so you're saying they aren't? Are you kidding? I didn't see a smiley.
Do you not understand that the intelligence agencies have a budget and their programs are approved by Congressional committees? Classified programs are reviewed in classified sessions.
See »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta···e_budget |
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MyDogHsFleas
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said by digitalfreak :said by morbo :sift back through your old posts if you need examples. here's one: » Re: No Immunity!and etc. you can say the same thing about me. my "rabid" support for the rule of law and rights guaranteed by the u.s. constitution. i get all caught up in it! LOL. I love it when people are able to back up their accusations. ummm... did you READ the linked post??
It says:
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*sigh* here we go again
The only thing wrong with this post is that none of this is about breaking laws.
It's about civil class action lawsuits by advocacy groups who are ginning up "damages" so that they can file the suits, backed by trial lawyers who are exclusively Democratic big-time donaters.
You may believe, personally, that "laws were broken", but unfortunately for you, that's not on the table.
What about this post is mocking or disrespectful? I'm just politely pointing out that running on and on about "breaking laws" is irrelevant in the telco immunity debate, because no one is accusing the telcos of criminal activity.
You seem to be confusing disagreement with your views on mocking and shill/PR behavior. |
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If you trust a government that crafts copyright laws according to who pays it the biggest bribes and that believes people should be thrown in jail for breaking regional encryption on foreign DVDs or for format shifting a videogame that they've already purchased (assuming either cases get caught, admittedly), I suggest that you get your head examined. These people to not have your best interests at heart.
Is Cuba less prosperous than the USA? Yes. But the standard of living is still higher and more egalitarian than most of Latin America, and the literacy rate exceeds even Canada's. Not bad for a country that had been a plantation state under tyrants like Fulgencio Batista. And what about those "Socialist" International yanqui puppets in countries like Venezuela that had massacred thousands of workers protesting broken promised and IMF-imposed austerity measures.
If you're going to make arguments, make sure you compare like and like and make sure you use precedents as a means of determining whether those you are discussing have your best interests at heart. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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| said by xyzxyz :
If you trust a government that crafts copyright laws according to who pays it the biggest bribes and that believes people should be thrown in jail for breaking regional encryption on foreign DVDs or for format shifting a videogame that they've already purchased (assuming either cases get caught, admittedly), I suggest that you get your head examined. These people to not have your best interests at heart.
What a weird, irrelevant sidetrack to the discussion! Unless you think the Dept. of Defense and the Intelligence agencies are somehow involved in copyright laws.
This is another debate for another time and place.
Is Cuba less prosperous than the USA? Yes. But the standard of living is still higher and more egalitarian than most of Latin America, and the literacy rate exceeds even Canada's. Not bad for a country that had been a plantation state under tyrants like Fulgencio Batista. And what about those "Socialist" International yanqui puppets in countries like Venezuela that had massacred thousands of workers protesting broken promised and IMF-imposed austerity measures.
GMAFB. I can't believe that the same people who yammer about their rights to steal copyrighted works, and think their rights to "privacy" are more important than national security, defend those who routinely imprison opponents and criticizers. Why do you suddenly bring up economic arguments when it suits you?
If you're going to make arguments, make sure you compare like and like and make sure you use precedents as a means of determining whether those you are discussing have your best interests at heart.
See my comments above and don't lecture me. I am not lecturing you and I don't assume I know better than you. I also stick to the point and respond to what you say, which is more than you are doing. |
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