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evilotto

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reply to fiberguy
Re: Absolutely

said by fiberguy See Profile :

They DO rent an HD converter, but that fee is for the equipment itself. Considering you'd need to purchase a box on your own for a few hundred, the $5 rental fee isn't too bad.
I don't know what Comcrap's prices are in your area, but where I live the HD equipment fee is $6 for digital customers and $10 for non-digital customers PLUS the fee for the SD box. They waive the fee for the first box, so if you had 3 HDTVs it would be $6 + $12.95 + $12.95 = $31.90 for digital customers and $10 + $16.95 + $16.95 = $43.90 for non-digital customers. $382.80/$526.80 per year is not exactly good IMO.


Corehhi

join:2002-01-28
Bluffton, SC

reply to MemphisPCGuy
I'll have to pay for digital channels after 2009. The cable companies standard tier is analog and they will convert digital to analog unless you pay for the DTV. HD package is extra on top of that.

I have no choice in cable companies either. It's Sat or Hargray.


Boogeyman
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reply to MemphisPCGuy
said by MemphisPCGuy See Profile :

said by Boogeyman See Profile :

Are you trying to imply that OTA Standard Definition Digital is as good of quality as cable's digital HD?
Is there a difference between OTA 720/1080 and Cable HD 720/1080 programming?
No. Well, in my experience OVA HD is better than cable HD. I had said OVA SD compaired to cable HD.
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MemphisPCGuy
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said by Boogeyman See Profile :

said by MemphisPCGuy See Profile :
No. Well, in my experience OVA HD is better than cable HD. I had said OVA SD compaired to cable HD.
Exactly my point, I've never seen SD Digital unless you count Perry Mason upscaled to 1080i by my local affiliate. Is it because I have a HDTV and a $5 set of Rabbit ears?

I guess my question boils down to this. After Feb 2009, if I turn on the HDTV I have in my spare bedroom, that currently just has a Cable plugged into it, getting whatever analog is available... what resolution are the Digital channels going to be in? Will I get a picture at all? Will I have to finally call and add that TV to the "system"? Will the cable company scale down all DTV channels to be 4:3 480i or 16:9 480p regardless of the format they were produced in?
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Boogeyman
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Digital SD and analog SD are both ~480i, IIRC. And most of the tv I've seen lately in SD is still 4:3.

I dont remember where I read this, but it was somewhere around only 30% of the tv viewing public has a widescreen HDTV. So until it gets over 50%, I doubt you'll see a migration from SD to HD in broadcast/cable.

The HDTV you have plugged into analog cable will still receive the same analog signal its getting now from your cable company. Until your cable company decides to go all digital or you switch your service to the digital offering, you will still get the analog signal. Remember, Only Full Power OVA broadcasters have to switch to digital on Feb 2009. Smaller stations dont have to make the switch and can still use analog if they want, for a time. And cable/satellite isnt affected at all on Feb 2009.

When I said "No. Well, in my experience OVA HD is better than cable HD. I had said OVA SD compaired to cable HD." I was asking if you meant compairing OVA SD to cable HD service. Which it seems you are. So my answer to that is its not the same. SD is still SD and HD is still HD, no matter how its piped to your house. If you have a cable box that upscales (I've never heard of one, but I havent heard of a lot of things) its still SD being upscaled and not true HD.
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MemphisPCGuy
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While I understand Comcast does not have to make the switch, they are working on it per this news snippet;
Add Comcast to the list of providers getting very serious about dumping all those bandwidth hogging analog channels and plans to go all digital in 20% of its markets by year's end, and all by 2010. Of course it will have to provide free digital adapters for analog customers per the FCC, but by dropping ~70 analog channels, it'll free up enough space for about 150 HD channels
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my questions. I am really just curious and had not meant for this to be a lengthy drawn out discussion, just some things that occured to me and figgered this was a good a place as any to ask
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fiberguy
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reply to evilotto
ComCAST's price in my area are about the same.. and I still find it a good deal. I'd go out and price an HD box on your own, to purchase, and see how much the trade off is. (Hint: The cost of an HD box, to an MSO that buys them by the truck load, is about $500 or more, each)

Also, consider the fact that they do break, the hassle of having to have them serviced, be with out, and when new technology comes out, you'd have to buy new ones.. again, the rental isn't that bad.

For the record, I have 6 televisions in the house and they are all HD. I know it costs, but, we're still in the early adopting stage. Most homes still only have just one HDTV in the house, and few have more than one.

Value, I suppose, if going to depend on WHO is the one asking that question.
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