Re: IP Address Keeps Changing in TekSavvy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20758781 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:15:34 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:15:34 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773655 jfmezei : >I do believe that my IP doesn't tend to change very often
>with TekSavvy. I can even reconnect and get the same IP.

This implies you have properly disconnected, making your old IP available for use for the next guy to login.

If you improperly disconnect and reconnect again, you are almost garanteed to not get the same IP.

If you improperly disconnect and have Fixed IP, you need to wait for the old session to time out before Teksavvy will let you back in and give you your fixed IP again. (prior to the ERXs this wasn't this case).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773655 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:11:59 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773616 Guspaz : Keep alive is useless, for the most part. Your DSL line won't disconnect if there isn't any traffic.

I do believe that my IP doesn't tend to change very often with TekSavvy. I can even reconnect and get the same IP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773616 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:28:47 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773530 anon : what sticks out to me in this thread is that he went from a solid connection on a remote with sympatico to a less stable host connection on tsi...happens all the time...

i wonder if caip might wanna start monitoring this metric and see how many people go from a remote on a sympatico connection. And then with a reseller the remote connection is bypassed just cause the user is with a reseller of the nexxia offering.

yet another preference paid to sympatico client from nexxia. we dont have to wait anymore for 5 tickets so just keep filling in those online tickets......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773530 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:26:43 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773481 erebos :
said by Rastan See Profile :

When I was with Sympatico, I was usually able to hold on to the same IP address for a few days. Since switching to Teksavvy I've noticed that it changes frequently. Even though my router stats indicate that my uptime is over 1 day, my IP address changed in the last 12 hours.

I have keep alive set to 5 seconds. Are you guys noticing that your IP address changes frequently as well?
Honestly, I didn't even bother reading the entire thread but I assume you are worried about IP changes because you are remoting into your machine. Dynamic DNS is win.

www.noip.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773481 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:00:36 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773476 erebos :
said by Rastan See Profile :

When I was with Sympatico, I was usually able to hold on to the same IP address for a few days. Since switching to Teksavvy I've noticed that it changes frequently. Even though my router stats indicate that my uptime is over 1 day, my IP address changed in the last 12 hours.

I have keep alive set to 5 seconds. Are you guys noticing that your IP address changes frequently as well?
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773476 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:58:42 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773338 Guspaz : There's a further benefit there too. If you aren't manually entering a static IP and something goes wrong, you can still connect to the "new" IP (perhaps you keep a DynDNS entry handy, or have your server report the IP somewhere). At least you can still remotely access your home network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20773338 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:58:14 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20768873 CanerisErik :
said by Guspaz See Profile :

Incorrectly configuring your servers to cause additional downtime is no replacement for proper automated monitoring.
Right on. There are some good free open source monitoring systems out there such as Nagios and others.

In the scenario that JF described, one would simply get a SMS on your mobile and would know that you have the wrong IP, rather than waiting to find out "sooner" that something is wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20768873 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:27:05 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766069 Guspaz : Incorrectly configuring your servers to cause additional downtime is no replacement for proper automated monitoring.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766069 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:13:12 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766055 jfmezei : >In short, there's no point in specifying an IP, and doing so
>will increase your downtime when something goes wrong.

I disagree.

If you are running servers, and Teksavvy screws up and assign you a different IP, then you want the link to remain down so you notice it faster. If the link comes back up with a different IP, you won't notice anything wrong until you realise you're not getting your emails, or someone phones you to ask when you web server will come back on-line. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766055 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:11:11 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765951 Guspaz : As JF has mentioned, DHCP isn't used with PPPoE. And manually specifying a static IP if you have a static IP from TekSavvy is also useless.

When you establish a connection, IPCP is used to dictate the IP to your client. The same method is used regardless of if you have a static or dynamic IP.

This gets a bit off-topic, but this is also why it's wrong/bad to manually set your IP if you are buying a static IP. Because your IP is dictated to you anyhow, you have a potential problem. If you manually specify an IP and it matches your assigned static IP, the one that you specify is ignored and everything works.

If you manually specify an IP and something goes wrong, your specified IP is ignored, but since you DID specify one, nothing works.

In short, there's no point in specifying an IP, and doing so will increase your downtime when something goes wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765951 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:49:29 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765862 Angelo_ : sounds like it's your router not anything on tsi's end like jf mentioned]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765862 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:34:13 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765818 jfmezei : There is no DHCP involved with PPPoE service.

What you are seeing is probably your LAN-side DHCP server which has nothing to do with your internet IP address provided by teksavvy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765818 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:25:42 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20763669 bjlockie : Can you put 0 to disable the lease time?
I think DHCP overrides it anyways.
As long as you get an IP and don't lose connectivity, is it a problem?
You could always pay for a static IP if you need one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20763669 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:11:12 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20760746 Scoop : You should take your own advice and think before you type eh what. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20760746 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:26:51 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758995 Rastan : I didn't know that Router's uptime != PPPoE session's uptime. My previous router didn't have all these settings so I'm still trying to figure things out. Here are a few of my settings:

Connection Mode: Keep Alive
Minimum Retry Delay: 5 seconds
DHCP Server Lease time: 1440 minutes

How do I check if it's configured to drop PPPOE if I'm inactive?

I have a Linksys PAP2-NA and I didn't setup a static IP for it, so it's lease time is currently set to 1440 minutes. Should I increase that to 2-3 days?

At this point, I don't think it's a line problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758995 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:01:26 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758902 jfmezei : Router's uptime != PPPoE session's uptime.

Your modem may also have some clues (in terms of time since last ADSL disconnect).

You may not notice a temporary glitch because your router will reconnect right away with a new PPPoE session.

But if you were to be doing a very long file transfer, you would notice because as the IP changes, the file transfer would hang after the IP was changed.

Is your router configured to drop PPPoE if you are inactive for a few minutes ? If so, it would explain the behaviour.

If your router is configured to maintain PPPoE up all the time, then it could be a problem with the modem. You need to get stats from your modem (or call teksavvy and get them to look at the lantern stats of your line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758902 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:42:29 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758877 TSI James : The thing is, that different companies have different systems that will keep your IP for a month before it changes, some are even longer.

It just happens with us that each time a session resets, the IP will most likely change.

I don't think it was trolling as per lack of knowledge...which is cool.

The best thing that you can do if you think it is a line issue is to post on the direct forms or call in.

If anything needs to be settled I say we all play Battlefield : Bad Company. ;)
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TSI James - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758877 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:39:44 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758781 anon :
said by Scoop See Profile :

Go troll somewhere else. :o
K first off, you obviously don't know a troll from your elbow.

2nd, tell me, do you honestly have a magic internet connection that auto-changes your IP w/o a disconnection?

Take TSI James advice and post this in the direct forum.

And next time before you think the truth is a troll, think before you type.

:uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758781 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:26:09 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758530 Scoop : Go troll somewhere else. :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758530 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:45:20 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758476 Rastan : Thanks for the all replies. I'm also wondering how the IP address changes if I'm not being temporarily disconnected? If I am being disconnected then shouldn't my router's uptime reset?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758476 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:36:03 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758447 TSI James : I can suggest that if you wish a constant IP then we can offer one at $4 a month.

Being that you have a Dynamic IP it will change. On my line it changes all the time, some people may argue that this keeps your connection more secure.

If you feel that you have a line issue though, please feel free to post in the direct forms or call our support...cheers.
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TSI James - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758447 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:28:50 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758409 anon :
said by Scoop See Profile :

Mine changes daily with no disconnects. With cable you can go months with the same IP address.
How do you change IP w/o a disconnect?

This seems like bullsh|t to me.

If it changes daily you have a problem that should be looked at.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758409 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:21:42 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758086 jfmezei : Cable is an "always on" system. You use DHCP and your lease lasts X hours (usually 24 or 48 hours).

So if you go down for a few hours, your lease is still valid and when you get back up, your DHCP request just renews your current lease and you are given the same IP.

With Bell's inferior PPPoE, this is really a dialup situation The PPPoE is the equivalent of dialing the number to your ISP. PPP is then used to establish the session at the IP level, with authentication, and the ISP feeding you parameters such as IP address, DNS servers etc.

So, if your PPPoE session goes down for whatever reason, when you re-establish it, the ISP sees it as a totally new session and gives you new parameters.

If the previous session was not properly shutdown and you reconnect within 2 minutes, then the ISP will still have the old IP still allocated to your old session which hasn't timed out yet and will be forced to give you a new one.

If Bell based its offering on HSA, it would be like cable with an "always on" serice without that pesky PPPoE thing.

You might wish to call tech support whenever your session has been reset and ask them if they can look into the reason for your last session terminating, and if they can check lantern to see if your line sync was lost recently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20758086 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:17:35 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757975 Scoop : Mine changes daily with no disconnects. With cable you can go months with the same IP address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757975 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:14 EDT Re: IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757872 anon : This is an indication of a line problem (constant disconnects). Post in the direct forum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757872 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:35:29 EDT IP Address Keeps Changing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757865 Rastan : When I was with Sympatico, I was usually able to hold on to the same IP address for a few days. Since switching to Teksavvy I've noticed that it changes frequently. Even though my router stats indicate that my uptime is over 1 day, my IP address changed in the last 12 hours.

I have keep alive set to 5 seconds. Are you guys noticing that your IP address changes frequently as well?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757865 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:34:01 EDT