Topic 'MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM' in forum 'Security' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20759839 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:15:49 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:15:49 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21237266 See Profile often says I pounded the new version over the old one. Till this day no problems (knocking on wood). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21237266 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:58:13 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21234535 C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zauninst.exe /clean
(There is a space between the exe and the forward slash)

This has always worked very well for me... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21234535 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:29:49 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21234480
Check your running processes for vsmon [the TrueVector Internet Monitor, part of ZA]. If it's there, disable it using msconfig. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21234480 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:22:00 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21234423 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-21234423 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:10:22 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20820715 --
Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20820715 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:33:22 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20818219 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20818219 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:07:26 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20813931 said by HA Nut:

Not quite. It appears ZoneAlarm from versions 6.5.x and higher are affected. I run 6.1.744.001 and I have not had any problems...
Gotchya, thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20813931 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:15:09 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20810554
- move internet security slider on ZA to medium.
- download & install the latest version of ZA
- move slider back

OR

- remove the Windows update in control panel (add & remove programs)
- download & install the latest version of ZA
- restore the windows update

the problem will go away. Any other problems are unlikely to be related.

I performed a mix of the above two steps on my XP PCs with ZAF. Worked flawlessly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20810554 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:45:10 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20810461 said by htfan808:

Hi, so it looks like the only way to install MS update KB951748 with Zonealarm is to upgrade to the newest version, 7.0.483.000...unless you're using 4.5.538.001.

Do I have that right?

Thanks!
Not quite. It appears ZoneAlarm from versions 6.5.x and higher are affected. I run 6.1.744.001 and I have not had any problems...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20810461 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:56:13 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20809528
Do I have that right?

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20809528 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:16:03 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20809520
I've noticed that for the last couple of days, I've been getting more lag and dropped connections. Now tonight I've been kicked off the Internet entirely (as in can't even get to the router) for up to half an hour at a time. I uninstalled the hotfix again, and that seems to have provided a partial fix, but I'm still seeing traceroutes with random dropped packets and complete disconnections. Also, I cannot at all get to the config page on my router (Linksys WRT45G) and attempting to do so kills my connection. I have to repair my connection from the Network Connections panel to get anything back.

What's going on with this? :(
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This procedure restored the machine's access to the Internet. Before I deleted the directory, it had an IP address, but couldn't ping or trace out [pings returned 'error 65', which means 'access violation']. There wasn't any router installed, but I'll bet I could have pinged it if there were, given how ZA works.

If you don't feel comfortable rooting around in your Windows directories try downloading, installing, then uninstalling the latest ZA free. I haven't tested this solution, but it should fix the problem I described above.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806714 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:40:29 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806551 Thanks
Blao]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806551 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:14:06 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806436 said by CurtesyFlush:

The installation of KB951748 didn't affect my ZAP 4.5.538.001.
MotherNature, your post was music to my ears. I have ZAFree 4.5.538.001 and have been avoiding this update, but did download the latest ZA version in case I needed it. I just installed KB951748 and my internet access is fine. Thank you so much.

Sincerely, Libra]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806436 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:56:10 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806047 quote:
I uninstalled the update. Installed the new zonealarm update. No luck. Turned zonealarm off. No luck.


Uh oh.

quote:
Setting ZA firewall to medium or off did not work. Uninstalling ZA and/or the update did not work. Reinstalling the new ZA did not work. Uninstalling everything and reinstalling everything did not work.


I've got a bad feeling about this.

:(
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20806047 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:44:14 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20805933
When my internet first went down, I installed the update and everthing was cool.

2 days later, it stopped working again.

Setting ZA firewall to medium or off did not work.

Uninstalling ZA and/or the update did not work.

Reistalling the new ZA did not work.

Uninstalling everything and reinstalling everything did not work.

I am out of ideas.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20805933 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:21:19 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20802835 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20802835 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:58:20 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20799440 said by Xed :

my Linksys router simply will not work again since the KB951748 patch fiasco. Right now I'm inundated with work and will concentrate on that, working on my desktop computer with the working cable modem.If you change the device connected to a cable modem (for instance, insert or remove a router), you must re-boot the cable modem. This has nothing to do with Linksys, or ZoneAlarm, or KB951748.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20799440 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:21:38 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20797733 --
A triple espresso, please...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20797733 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:07:24 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20797108 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20797108 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:09:37 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20797010
Right now I'm inundated with work and will concentrate on that, working on my desktop computer with the working cable modem. I will say this though. It is absolutely astonishing to me that Linksys has said NOTHING whatsoever on their Web site concerning the problem. It looks like no one wants to take responsibility for this entire fiasco--not Microsoft, not Zone Alarm, not Linksys. Frustrating.

Thanks again. You've been great. I'll let you know if I (or someone else) ever figures this out. Best to you!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20797010 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:48:16 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20796838 --
It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20796838 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:15:29 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20795446 said by tcse :

. . Will I encounter problems when I install the patch? It appears that some users, from what I've read over the 23 pages, have experienced problems with their routers and the loss of internet. Unlikely, but there are few guarantees in life.

Make a system restore point or image your system prior to installing it.

A free imaging program is available here, for anybody that doesn't have one:

»www.macrium.com/ReflectFree.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20795446 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:52:33 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20794200 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20794200 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:37:26 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20793378 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20793378 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:17:28 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20793114 Anybody know what the update does? I am now using the microsoft firewall but not sure it is doing anything!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20793114 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:34:04 EDT Excellent advice from fist page of topic--- http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Excellent-advice-from-fist-page-of-topic-20793030 »Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM

Kudos for the info FiOS Dan See Profile

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Always learning. Fantastic thread!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20791433 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:14:49 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20791422
I am running the latest version of Zonealarm, under Win2k and I am running an Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router (802.N flavour).

I installed the Zonealarm update, fooled around with this ting ALL DAY. The only solution that worked (as I can write to this forum) was to remove the KB951748 update. Actually, I didn't regain Internet access immediately and could only connect directly; not through the router. I changed wires, played around and finally, THANKFULLY I am re-connected to the beloved Internet.

A few issues made this harder - my ISP went down for a while today and my router is still acting a bit funny. The Internet light is still blinking, but I believe that this should be solid.

In any event, I think the prudent thing to do is uninstall (via add/remove programs) this KB update. Leave your ZA at high (IMHO) that is the lesser of two evils. Hope everyone is back up and running and hopefully a real "fix/update" will be put out by MS or ZA.

Thanks for reading. A good day to all.

-J]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20791422 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:12:24 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790822
I have no intention of quibbling about market share by third-party firewall products; certainly Check Point ZA are important in the freeware consumer space, and I am guessing that this might be under represented in the testing panels used. It is complicated by the fact that issues only occured, it appears from user responses, in only certain versions of the same. The majority of third-party firewall products in use are dominated completely by the major Antivirus product vendors by their Suites, none of which had issues with this Hotfix. I wish I could say more about the matrix of reported issues, and their resolution, but I do not have access to the data nor could or would supply it here. But in the main, this has been a relatively trouble free Hotfix, one absolutely worthy of doing, and it appears any issues have thankfully now been sorted.

But I do feel firmly that at least a process is in place, albeit shown imperfect in this case, to prevent these sorts of issues from ever happening.

And that the unfortunate experience of some, should not lead them to the conclusion that future Security Hotfixes, Service Packs, or the whole notion of Automatic Updates should seriously be called into question as a result.

I appreciate very much your fair reading of my earlier comments.

My best regards,
Bill Castner
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790822 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:10:39 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790662 Bill. Thanks for sharing just enough info without compromising too much. I can only imagine how difficult it is to create the perfect patch that dirsupts no one's system, especialy given the seemingly endless number of software combinations that are running out there. However, in this case it does seem like something fell through the cracks. The nature of this patch as I understand it, namely changing the ports range, could obviously impact FW settings, and the Check Point ZA products are among the most widely distributed FWs in the world. It therefore seems odd that this internet connection loss was never foretold or experienced by any of the MVPs, panels, guinea pigs, etc. This is not some obscure program from a little-known developer, running on a few thousand rigs worldwide. ZA users must number in the millions. Oh well, nothing directed at you Bill or your well-intentioned and informative post. Just a mini-rant I guess.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790662 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:41:14 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790505 Thank you for your advice. I guess I should remove my current 4.5.538.001 and install the latest ZA, then go to Windows Updates.

In my current ZA I don't have any dns or DHCP servers in the trusted zone. I have adapter subnets in the internet zone. Under "advanced" I have allow outgoing dns and dhcp in the internet zone and trusted zone under high security and Block internet Zone Servers.

I have AOL on this computer and they probably have a lot of dns and dhcp servers and I don't know what they are.

2nd Edit: I get these alerts from ZA: Generic Host Process for Win32 Services could not accept a UDP Port xxxx connection from 192.168.1.1 because internet servers are blocked. And the same alert for 205.188.146.145. BUT in spite of this, I can access the internet and AOL.

Do you know if this will work in this latest free version of ZA?

Thank you.

Sincerely, Libra
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790505 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:10:39 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790496 quote:
You know, on the one hand the kind of quick response that the folks at Check Point made yesterday should go a long way towards holding their current customers and perhaps attracting some new ones. But on the other hand, you would think that there could be some sort of "patch preview" service to which developers could subscribe to receive at least 24-hours advance notice of the upcoming changes and issue updates to their programs ahead of time rather than have all hell break loose like it did yesterday.


There is such a program in place, and has been for several years. The time given, I am told reliably, is much greater than 24 hours. While it likely some members of this Forum are members of the SVUP program, they are by Non-Disclosure not permitted to identify themselves, nor discuss any details of the program. The program includes MS-MVPs, large corporation members of special advisory panels, ISV participants, and other formal panel participants that have been put together by Microsoft over the years to act as guinea pigs.

Will all problems be caught? This case shows that they will not be.

This update was likely applied to over a Billon computers. The actual number of problems with it that have been reported are small, and no re-engineering of the Hotfix itself was necessary.

In my opinion: The security problem it addresses is quite real, and the action taken by Microsoft was a responsible one. The potential of the risk addressed in this Hotfix to completely compromise the entire Internet was real, and needed to be addressed immediately and affirmatively.

I feel the pain of anyone who had problems from this update. But do not let it lead you unwisely to turn off Automatic Updates, or not install Service Packs when issued.

The most important thing to discuss when an issue of this sort happens, is how to resolve it. The folks in the trenches involved in the initial efforts to create these Security enhancements never talk when they break something about "who is at fault", they immediately try to work out a solution. This includes immediate, substantial, and significant work between the effected ISV software company and Microsoft.

When a solution is found, as it was in this case by Zone Alarm issuing five new versions of it's software, nobody involved spends any time pointing fingers, or making a rush to judgement about the Future of Hotfixes.

And neither should anyone else.

Bill Castner
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20790496 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:09:55 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM -Use Restore http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-Use-Restore-20790453
This has worked for my client.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-Use-Restore-20790453 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:58:48 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20788970 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20788970 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:15:53 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20787080
Already aware that there was a problem with KB951748 and fearing the worst for my own machines, I came home last Tuesday to find that only one computer had updated and it was one of my computers with the .470 branch of Version 7 of Zone Alarm Pro. Oh crap! Like the rest of the posters here, that machine had no internet access. I took that machine offline, but left KB951748 installed. On the other two machines, I just temporarily disabled Windows Updates until an update to Zone Alarm was released.

Of those two machines unaffected by KB951748, one had an expired subscription. It's becoming expensive to renew subscriptions every two years and I figured I really didn't need the latest and greatest version of ZAP anymore. But there are features in ZAP that I use that are not found in the free version. But unless I renewed the subscription on that machine, I basically had a useless copy of Zone Alarm Pro.

Needless to say, I forked over the cash for another two year subscription and the process left a very sour taste in my mouth. I just can't shake the feeling that Check Point deliberately neutered ZAP in some way (there have been several releases of ZAP in the past few months) to force the users of expired subscriptions into renewing their licenses.
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And as to fair... You knew it was coming! :D Who said things had to be kept fair!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20786874 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:01:13 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20785809 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20785809 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:03:45 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20785336 said by Libra:

Hi Dan,
I've done nothing but read these boards and ZA's boards. I don't like being insecure, but I don't want to lose the internet either!

Sincerely, Libra
Well, you've got two choices. Either dump ZA for something else, install the patch, and hope it all works, or update ZA to the newer version and install the patch, which seems to be working for the majority of people.
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Sincerely, Libra]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20784611 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:57:32 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20784584 said by Xed :

If this solution doesn't work, do I have your permission to kick and stomp on my Linksys router (and then go out and buy a new one)? Please say yes, especially about the kicking and stomping part.Resetting it to factory defaults will probably do the trick--but sometimes you just gotta let the energy out! :D

BTW, keep in mind that resetting the router will also reset the password to the default. Be sure to change it once you're up and running.

Edit: Added BTW]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20784584 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:48:38 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20784465 said by AB:

You know, this entire thread is basically one big advertisement for Acronis True Image, or something similar.

I know I sure am glad I use Acronis nowadays. It's saved my butt on more than one occasion.
And with it installed, I can be the first one off the bridge, should I be so inclined. :)
I was just thinking the same thing, AB, namely that with imaging software and System Restore it should not be a leap of courage for any user to try out new software or install updates. That said, old hypocrite Dan here has done nothing except switch my router settings over to OpenDNS. I am still lurking in the high grass on both the ZA and M$ updates.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20784465 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:12:25 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20783730
Here is a link to one of several threads that started this week discussing the MS update problem.

»forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/boar···id=18667]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20783730 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:06:06 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20783437 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20783437 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:30:15 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782819
Thank you so much for hanging in there with me on this, Pentacle. If this solution doesn't work, do I have your permission to kick and stomp on my Linksys router (and then go out and buy a new one)? Please say yes, especially about the kicking and stomping part.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782819 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:33:14 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782579 said by jaykaykay:

...And, for anyone who cares, no I will not be the guinea pig the next time around! :):):)
Now now, we all have to take our turn to keep things fair. It's not right if the same people get borked repeatedly. :D
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I never rush to install MS updates. In fact, I have never had Automatic Windows Update turned on(sorry Microsoft). I let the little yellow shield show up in the System Tray and then I go read about the updates before downloading and installing them, one PC at a time, in a controlled manner. This week, when I found that I didn't have internet access after updating my laptop, I stopped and still had a working desktop system. I uninstalled the 2 MS updates and regained internet access, so I immediately knew it was something to do with the update and not my ISP or router.

When the problem hit this week, I read on another forum about a user who woke up that morning to 5 networked PCs at home that didn't have internet access. He wasted hours troubleshooting a non-existant problem with his ISP/router/cable modem.

I've never trusted Microsoft enough to give them carte-blanche access to my PCs. When IE7 was released it broke a part of my HP photo software called HP Director. It was days or weeks before HP released a patch. You know, this entire thread is basically one big advertisement for Acronis True Image, or something similar.

I know I sure am glad I use Acronis nowadays. It's saved my butt on more than one occasion.
And with it installed, I can be the first one off the bridge, should I be so inclined. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782388 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:45:36 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782372 said by AB:

No doubt the same attitude taken by those ZA users who quickly installed KB951748. ;)
I never rush to install MS updates. In fact, I have never had Automatic Windows Update turned on(sorry Microsoft). I let the little yellow shield show up in the System Tray and then I go read about the updates before downloading and installing them, one PC at a time, in a controlled manner. This week, when I found that I didn't have internet access after updating my laptop, I stopped and still had a working desktop system. I uninstalled the 2 MS updates and regained internet access, so I immediately knew it was something to do with the update and not my ISP or router.

When the problem hit this week, I read on another forum about a user who woke up that morning to 5 networked PCs at home that didn't have internet access. He wasted hours troubleshooting a non-existant problem with his ISP/router/cable modem.

I've never trusted Microsoft enough to give them carte-blanche access to my PCs. When IE7 was released it broke a part of my HP photo software called HP Director. It was days or weeks before HP released a patch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782372 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:40:39 EDT Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MS-update-KB951748-and-ZoneAlarm-PROBLEM-20782358
Btw., I did a clean install instead of over the top for a change. I figured it wouldn't hurt. I didn't tell my son which one to do. I will let him judge what he's comfortable doing.

And, for anyone who cares, no I will not be the guinea pig the next time around! :):):)
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