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davee1

join:2003-05-27
Antioch, CA
reply to DiverGuy2
Re: MS update KB951748 and ZoneAlarm --- PROBLEM

Thats right!!! Microsoft needs to get off their queenie high horse and work with vendors, communicate, put out patches that dont screw up other things, and share the wealth so to speak.


DiverGuy2

@logicalsolutns.com

reply to Greg_Z
said by Greg_Z See Profile :

Then, it is not a Microsoft fault, but Checkpoint for not making sure that their product was compatible with the latest updates & Service packs. What gets me, is that Software Manufacturers have the opportunity to work hand in hand with MS, but refuse to do so, because it will cost them money.
Ok, that's one of the most absurd comments I've seen in quite a while.

This affects multiple versions of Zone Alarm. All of the Zone Alarm versions were published BEFORE MicroSquish published their FIX.

How can you possibly blame software vendors for 'not working hand in hand with MS', when their software was functioning perfectly UNTIL MS issued their update.

The problem IS with Microsoft. You have obviously been assimilated.


Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire


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reply to La Luna
said by La Luna See Profile :

This is the vague explanation:

If the windows update changed the usual needed files for networking/internet, then the ZA will not see the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore the newer files. Even though the file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file size and checksums no longer match.
Vague indeed. Surely ZA would then prompt on the new files if changed. This issue might go deeper into how ZA is working

edit: an added rule might help
»www.castlecops.com/article-6916-···0-0.html
"..
According to the German site Heise Security the problem lies in the personal firewall expecting dns queries only from one udp port. The windows update randomizes the source port for udp queries. Heise Security suggests an allow rule for the firewall, which allows udp-packets from any port to port 53 of the dns server and the respective answers.
.."

Cudni
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altermatt
Premium
join:2004-01-22
White Plains, NY
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to La Luna
said by La Luna See Profile :

To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as when it was first installed
Does this really work? If so, it is a HECK of a lot easier to just nuke the databases than to reinstall the whole program, and a HECK of a lot safer than setting the internet zone to medium.

Is Online Armor affected? I've been meaning to switch for a while, since my ZAPro updates expired, and this might be the motivation.
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast

reply to La Luna
Then, it is not a Microsoft fault, but Checkpoint for not making sure that their product was compatible with the latest updates & Service packs. What gets me, is that Software Manufacturers have the opportunity to work hand in hand with MS, but refuse to do so, because it will cost them money.


La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Vonage

reply to w8sdz
This is the vague explanation:

If the windows update changed the usual needed files for networking/internet, then the ZA will not see the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore the newer files. Even though the file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file size and checksums no longer match.

To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as when it was first installed...


»forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/boar···id=52727
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w8sdz

join:2001-05-21
Port Orange, FL


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reply to winchester73
This might help someone who knows how to debug problems associated with today's MS Update. The following files in the \windows\system32 directory of XP Home (SP3) were replaced:
mswsock.dll
dnsapi.dll
vbscript.dll
jscript.dll
The network connectivity problem is most likely caused by the replacement of mswsock.dll. Zone Alarm's Vector service may have to be changed to work correctly with this new dll.
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