The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions in Canadian Broadband http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20761745 en Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:43:57 EDT Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:43:57 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20817441 Guspaz : Looks like it's relatively stable, although the error counts are a fair bit lower than before. Otherwise I'd say you should be back on interleaved.

You're not going to go much faster on fastpath, though, that's for sure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20817441 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:31:54 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20816878 McGusto : Thanks, man!
Yeah, i decided to just connect directly to the modem whenever i need to check it's settings.
Well, I got Velcom to return my profile to fastpath after upgrading the modem.
Here are the latest screen images.
How do these specs look and is there room for improvement?
PS: I haven't upgraded the firmware on the 516 as it's running 6.2.29.2.0 vs v6.2.17.5.
Overall, the connection is stable, im just trying to get the most I can from this line.
Aren't we all? :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20816878 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:03:57 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20816488 Quake110 : Sorry to not reply faster. The simple way is to connect to the modem directly when you want to use DMT. You won't be able to use DMT if the router is handling the DSL connection

There's a way to use DMT with a router even though the modem is in bridge (Look at the illustration). I personally doesn't connect that way so I can't really help you with that.

I've had a conversation about it here: »Re: Comparing Velcom's traceroute with Teksavvy's (LONG page :p)

A way to use DMT with a bridged modem
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20816488 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:14:29 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20802675 mc gusto : Here's a screen image of the modem settings.
The only way I could take this was by connecting directly to it:

Comments, recommendations?
Now that i've got solid equipment/firmware, I'll request Velcom to up my profile to 5M/fastpath or interleave?

PS: is there a need to update the firmware as the modem is at 6.2.29.2.0?

Tia!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20802675 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:28:57 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20799241 McGusto : Quake110, are you able to access the modem settings behind your router?
The ip address in the screen image is correct and I've also forwarded port 23 with no luck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20799241 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:42:41 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20798021 countaltec : OK, I followed your steps and guess what? It all works! I'm overjoyed!!!!!

Thanks so much to McGusto and Quake110.

Guspaz, Tomato is simply spectacular. I can't wait to read more and learn more about tweaking.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20798021 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:02:50 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797652 mc gusto : I tried - the error message is at the bottom of the pic. ;-(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797652 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:50:29 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797643 Quake110 : Forgot to say that you must connect. The info should look like this: »img.mhilfe.de/dmt7.png]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797643 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:48:48 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797631 mc gusto : Quake110,
as requested. I can't connect to the device behind the router.

I'm starting to get a headache.

See you all tomorrow!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797631 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:47:14 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797586 Quake110 : Download this application called "DMT" and upload the screenshot. It will give way more info about the line.

»www.2cent.de/dmt/v7/dmt.zip]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797586 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:40:07 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797285 McGusto : PS: Thanks for the info, after I sort out the issues with the 516 then I'll work on your suggestions. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797285 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:44:16 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797280 McGusto : Guspaz,
I picked up a TN516v6 modem and set it up. I'm connected and all, but I cannot load the web interface (192.168.1.254) from behind the router, only if I bypass and connect directly to it.
Here are my stats:

Note: I have already disabled UPNP on the modem and ensured it's firewall is disabled.

Device:
Name ST516
Serial # xxxxxxxx

Device Configuration:
Region North America
Provider Generic
Service Bridge
Description Bridged Connection

Bridged Internet Connection:
VPI/VCI 0.35

LAN Settings:
DHCP Server enabled

Access Control:
User Name Administrator
Password ********

Product Name: ST516

Serial Number: xxxxxxxx

Software Release: 6.2.29.2

Software Variant: GE

Boot Loader Version: 1.0.6

Product Code: 3594263A

Board Name: BANT-V

DSL Connection

Link Information


Uptime: 0 days, 0:47:17

Modulation: G.992.1 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 800 / 4.032


Internet

View more...


Type: Bridge

Uptime: 0 days, 0:47:34

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 74,62 / 47,76 ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797280 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:43:19 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20796660 McGusto : 1 - download Tomato/MLPPP v2 beta 2
2 - extract file. The result may be have a 7z extension
3 - use a newer version of winrar or a utility to extract the extracted file
4 - flash firmware with corresponding file
5 - reset to default settings in Tomato
6 - clear NVRAM
7 - enable mlppp (single link)
8 - enter all your port forwarded applications and ranges

These are from the notes I put together last week when researching, so I may be missing a step.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20796660 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:43:55 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20794863 countaltec : McGusto and Quake110, I just picked up the WRT54GL. They had just one left in the store.

I shall try updating the firmware with Tomato this evening when I get home. Any pointers/reference links on how to get this started?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20794863 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:57:08 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20793552 McGusto : It's cool.
Actually, one of the members here provided a link to a site that does the trace for you. All you do is enter your postal code, and the details are shown.

Can anyone help us out?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20793552 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:16:07 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20793344 bushmills : You mentioned in your first post that you "ran the trace" and found your distance to the nearest CO. How did you do this? I've been a Velcom customer now for a couple of weeks, can't get d/l speeds higher than 1396kbps, and everytime I call Bell or Velcom, I'm told they don't know how far I am from my CO. Getting VERY frustrating. Sorry, don't mean to hijack your thread, just curious how you ran that test? Thanks in advance for your advice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20793344 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:02:03 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20793127 Guspaz :
said by McGusto See Profile :

After running a few tests this evening, speednet still shows about the same avg kbs (3.4/660)prior to Bell working on the line. The only noticeable difference is with torrents. I'll peak in the 90's then steadily drop down to the 40's, then back to the 90's in increments of 10kbs. It's almost as if there was throttling? Which is odd as I'm on a wrt54gs v2 with Tomato/MLPPP v2 beta 2 (single link enabled).
Then it's most likely not throttling. Are you capping your upstream? Have you tried different torrents (like Ubuntu)?

said by McGusto See Profile :

Ironically, I was try to get the most of my line and Bell has dropped it down to 4. Before the downgrade, I really didn't have any technical issues.
The speed you were getting before the downgrade was more or less identical. Your sync speed before/after is pretty much the same.

said by McGusto See Profile :

Can Velcom manage the profile or is this only through Bell?
I'd like to ask to be returned to 5M/fastpath.
Only Bell can directly set the profile, Velcom can merely ask. There's no point going back to 5M/fast on your current setup, as you won't really gain anything except potential instability.

said by McGusto See Profile :

PS: I don't game online anymore. Would a 5M/interleaved profile be noticeable to a torrent user?
Torrent clients don't care about latency, certainly not a small increase like 30ms. Such latency increases really only matter to extremely latency-intensive applications like games.

said by McGusto See Profile :

PPS: I've read that the 516 can sync with stubborn lines. Perhaps upgrading my modem will help?
Yes, that or a 2wire modem might do better. It's hard to know by how much; it could be exactly the same, it could be a bit better, it could be a lot better.

You can pick up a 2wire from various places for $25. If you get one (or a 516), check your RCO to see if it drops (which would be good).

I think a combination of a newer modem (ST516/2wire) and 5mbit interleaved mode is your best bet for improving your speed. But no assurances.

You may also want to post your line stats.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20793127 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:43:11 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20791967 McGusto : After running a few tests this evening, speednet still shows about the same avg kbs (3.4/660)prior to Bell working on the line. The only noticeable difference is with torrents. I'll peak in the 90's then steadily drop down to the 40's, then back to the 90's in increments of 10kbs. It's almost as if there was throttling? Which is odd as I'm on a wrt54gs v2 with Tomato/MLPPP v2 beta 2 (single link enabled).

Ironically, I was try to get the most of my line and Bell has dropped it down to 4. Before the downgrade, I really didn't have any technical issues.

Can Velcom manage the profile or is this only through Bell?
I'd like to ask to be returned to 5M/fastpath.

PS: I don't game online anymore. Would a 5M/interleaved profile be noticeable to a torrent user?

PPS: I've read that the 516 can sync with stubborn lines. Perhaps upgrading my modem will help?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20791967 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:01:24 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790474 Guspaz : They're saying that in order to improve stability on your line, they've changed your sync profile from 5/800 to 4/800.

Previously, your modem was trying to sync at 5meg, but the line quality was such that the best it could do was slightly over 4meg. The problem is that on fastpath, having your modem sync as fast as it can go can causes reliability issues (disconnections and such).

Instead, to keep you on fastpath, they have set your profile to 4 megabit. This means that the modem won't try to sync any higher than 4 megabit, which gives you a bit of breathing room, and should increase stability.

I would also have suggested trying 5 megabit interleaved. Interleaved mode spreads out your data so that error correction is much more efficient, but does so at the cost of delaying your packets by about 30 milliseconds. However, if that extra one megabit per second isn't a big deal for you, you're not too bad off where you are.

Your speeds, in practice, should be ballpark 3500 down 640 up, plus or minus a few percent.

EDIT: Wups, forgot to explain the RCOs. I'll make it brief, since my battery is running out.

The 89% capacity down and 78% up (we call those your RCO, or Received Capacity Occupance) mean that of the maximum possible data that could be transferred through your phone line, you're using up 89% of the downstream capacity and 78% of the upstream capacity. Typically, you want these figures to be at most ~90%, to leave a bit of headroom in case of varying line conditions. Syncing at or close to 100% of your RCO means that the modem is using up all available capacity on the line, and that any increase in noise or interference will eat in to your actual data transfer. This means disconnections and dropped packets (packetloss).

With interleaved mode, the connection is far more tolerant of such errors, which is why I suggest 5 meg interleaved; you might get a few hundred kilobits per second out of the line, although you'll suffer from some extra latency (~30ms, if you're a gamer, this might matter to you).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790474 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:04:37 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790414 McGusto : Here is Bell's solution c/o Velcom:

Profile set to 4032-800 to improve performance/ full sync @ 89% capacity down & 78% up

I'm not sure what this all means, though. Can you translate for me? ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790414 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:49:51 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790358 McGusto : Thanks for the info, Guspaz.
I just received a call from Velcom advising that Bell has sorted the issue with my line. I'll verify when I get home tonight and see if there has been any improvement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790358 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:36:08 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790312 Guspaz : Unfortunate that you're only syncing at 4meg. I'd have suggested trying 5meg interleaved and just letting the modem sync as fast as it can; the extra reliability provided by interleaved should keep things stable despite maxing out your RCO. If you don't mind the extra ~30ms of latency, you might want to talk to Velcom about trying 5meg interleaved.

As far as Tomato/MLPPP goes, keep in mind that it won't improve your performance much over what you're getting now. You might get ~1% more throughput due to MLPPP tweaks, but that's best-case.

It will get around throttling, though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20790312 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:27:25 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20789771 countaltec : Ah thanks for that bit of info. I was reading about the GL versions. This all sounds really exciting and I'm looking forward to getting the router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20789771 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:37:49 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20789760 countaltec : Oh great... I feel a bit daft now. For some stupid reason I thought MLPPP will really boost the speed to almost double. Anyway, I'm going to test the Windows XP tweak and try a torrent download to see how it goes. I'll end up buying the GL router tomorrow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20789760 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:36:22 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788979 Quake110 :
said by countaltec See Profile :

I'm going to try to get hold of a WRT54GL router. I guess it would be a lot easier to update with 3rd party firmwares.
The problem with the new versions of WRT54G/S (The one that you see in BestBuy, FutureShop...) is that they stripped down the router. It uses VxWorks instead of Linux and have a 2MB flash ram which is low for tomato or DD-wrt with 8MB of ram.

Which is why they released WRT54GL. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788979 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:16:39 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788275 McGusto : They're probably bonding their connections (2 x dsl lines).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788275 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:55:43 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788254 countaltec : Your u/l speed sounds the same as when I enable Multi-link in Windows XP.

How are some other folks on here displaying speeds almost twice as fast when they enable MLPPP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788254 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:52:38 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788236 McGusto : Actually, overall, my d/l speed on speed test went from 3.6 to 3.4M but my upload went from 600 to 680kbs.
I had 8 torrents running last night, ranging from 150 to 350kbs! This is using the briteport broadxent 8012-v provided by Velcom.

PS: I'll try to pick up the 516 today and see if that helps. I already have a ticket open with Velcom regarding my line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788236 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:48:24 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788203 countaltec : I'm going to try to get hold of a WRT54GL router. I guess it would be a lot easier to update with 3rd party firmwares.

McGusto, whats your speed like now at speedtest? and are you using the modem Velcom shipped you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20788203 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:42:27 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20787140 Quake110 : Let us know how it goes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20787140 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:09:26 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20787073 countaltec : Thanks for the info. I'll take a look tomorrow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20787073 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:51:44 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784322 Quake110 : Also, the WRT54GL was specially made for the 3rd party firmwares.

»www.ncix.com/products/index.php?···=Linksys
»www.shoprbc.com/ca/shop/product_···id=13423
»www.directcanada.com/products/?s···=LINKSYS
»www.compu2000.com/index.php?l=pr···il&p=491

Or any computers stores in the Toronto Area (NOT Best Buy, FutureShop, The source... Only small computers stores).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784322 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:29:00 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784321 countaltec : Thanks McGusto. I'll try to get hold of one this week.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784321 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:28:50 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784299 McGusto : Check out the list of supported routers first:

CDF0/CDF1 = WRT54G v1.0
CDF2/CDF3 = WRT54G v1.1
CDF5 = WRT54G v2.0
CDF7 = WRT54G v2.2
CDF8 = WRT54G v3.0
CDF9 = WRT54G v3.1
CDFA = WRT54G v4.0

Then search localy on craigslist/kijiji:

»toronto.en.craigslist.ca/search/···xAsk=max

»toronto.kijiji.ca/f-linksys-rout···20router]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784299 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:21:13 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784273 countaltec : Oh this is really neat. I'm stuck at a torrent doing 25K tops.

Where would I be able to get hold of one of the supported Linksys routers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784273 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:13:33 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784253 McGusto : countaltec,
yes there has been a significant improvement. Prior to upgrading the firmware, I was doing 70-80 on a particular torrent. Afterwards, on the same torrent 10mins later, I was hitting 400 and steadied out at 390kbs.
Not a bad difference, eh?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784253 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:09:04 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784237 McGusto : Quake110, yes, running great so far. The one thing I noticed, if u make any router changes in the web interface, it takes a few seconds for a web page to load. But afterwards, all is fine. I'm thinking the routers changes are still be processed causing the delay?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20784237 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:05:37 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20783239 countaltec : Oh neat. Let me know how it goes. I will try to get hold of the Linksys router. The one I saw was v8 and I'm not sure of tomato supports that version.

Now with the MLPPP tweaks how is your dl and ul speed? Has it pretty much doubled?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20783239 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:49:47 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20781438 Quake110 :
said by McGusto See Profile :

So I couldn't pick up the TN516 modem, but i did upgrade the router's firmare to tomato-mlppp-1.19-mp2beta2...I'm still drooling. In literally seconds, i watched a torrent go from 0kbs to a steady 390-400kbs. :D
Congrats on upgrading your router! Running great so far?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20781438 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:32:01 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20781245 McGusto : hey guy,
as of this morning, infonec in Mississauga, recevied 5 x 516s. Im going to check them out tomorrow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20781245 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:37:30 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20780009 McGusto : Yup, loaded the firmware and tweaked a bit and that was it.
I've been testing on and off and so far i could only hit 400-405kbs max, though. Significantly better than before. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20780009 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:11:37 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20779968 countaltec : I will check with the downtown store on Monday about the router. Seems like they have 80 available online though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20779968 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:59:35 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20779962 countaltec : Whoa!!! Did you enable those MLPPP tweaks? I think I may go find myself one of these routers too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20779962 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:58:46 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20778855 McGusto : If you have any luck finding the TN516 modem, pls let me know. ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20778855 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:45:17 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20777647 McGusto : So I couldn't pick up the TN516 modem, but i did upgrade the router's firmare to tomato-mlppp-1.19-mp2beta2...I'm still drooling. In literally seconds, i watched a torrent go from 0kbs to a steady 390-400kbs. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20777647 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:31:17 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776334 countaltec : Oh I haven't had Velcom tweak the line. When I moved last year and signed up with them, I always found their service really fast. Torrents (unbuntu, SUSE etc.) would avg. 350K

My previous ISP that my parents still use is really slow in comparison, I wonder if they are stuck on a 1 Mbps connection but paying for a up to 5 Mbps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776334 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:34:06 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776301 McGusto : lol hey neighbor!
Did you have Velcom tweak your line?
Even on private trackers, my torrents go up as high as 110kbs, when I used to get 400 easily with Rogers extreme. Perhaps its the sign on the times with Rogers users and everyone's watching their BW aka limiting upload speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776301 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:36 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776272 countaltec : Oh.. I'm your neighbour... Central Pkwy and Mississauga Vly Blvd.

On speedtest I get DL: 4.2 Mbps and UL: 640Kbps. When I tried the Windows XP MLPPP tweak, the dl remained the same but the ul went up to 680Kbps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776272 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:23:48 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776258 McGusto : The TN516 will be able to handle it. From what i've been reading, MLPPP is best optimized if your router supports the tomato firmware and if your ISP offers this protocol.

BTW, how are your speeds on www.speedtest.net? I can't get anything over 3.6M (Burnhamthorpe/Hurontario).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776258 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:20:45 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776241 countaltec : Oh the downtown location is quite close to where I work. Before I buy this modem I'm wondering if there are advantages to it over the current Briteport Broadxent that I have.
Does MLPPP depend on the modem capability?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776241 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:17:45 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776220 McGusto : www.infonec.com

They have a shop on Matheson/Kennedy, downtown T.O, and Markham.
The price is the best I've found, $49.99]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776220 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:13:24 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776213 countaltec : Where did you go to buy it? Most computer places I've been to don't sell DSL modems... I guess I've been looking in the wrong places.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776213 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:12:06 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776212 McGusto : After a few days, I followed up with Velcom to check my line and this is what they have found:
-----
Please note that your line profile currently shows 800 mbs for upload with 78% of Relative Capacity Occupation, and 4096 mbs for download with 100% of Relative Capacity Occupation.
The value of Relative Capacity Occupation for downstream is too high, and for this reason you may be experiencing problems with connection such as disconnects.
Please note that we can try to have Bell adjust the profile of your line, but there is a possibility that they will decrease your speed down to 3 megs for the purpose of stability. However, probably, they will set your speed to 4 megs with normal Relative Capacity Occupation, and in this way you might be getting full 4 megs and stable connection.
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I'm looking forward to the results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776212 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:12:04 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776188 McGusto : Regarding the TN516, no luck, all out of stock in Mississauga...argh.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20776188 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:07:32 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20775776 countaltec : Hi McGusto and Quake110

I've been following this thread for the last few days. Being a Velcom user, I have the same modem as McGusto so would there be any benefits to buying the SpeedTouch 516?

Also, I would be interested in trying MLPPP so I would consider replacing my Netgear router with the Linksys you mention in the previous post.

I attempted the Windows XP MLPPP tweak but that didn't improve connection speed nor torrent speed.

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20775776 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:53:05 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20770736 Quake110 : I've upgraded my modem to the firmware 6.2.17.5. So far so good, but I'm not into testing the different modems firmware. But the good thing about the modem is that you can use this utility »dmt.mhilfe.de/ which will give you a complete stat about your line condition.

Bicephale, a member here did do some tests about how the different firmwares responds to the telephone lines.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20770736 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:32:10 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20769519 McGusto : Nice.
Have you upgraded the firmware to 6.2?
Just wondering if there are any benefits. I'm going to pick up the same modem this weekend.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20769519 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:44:15 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20769478 Quake110 : I'm using the SpeedTouch 516.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20769478 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:36:38 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20769049 McGusto : Quake110,
which modem are you using?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20769049 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:05:34 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20767055 McGusto : From what i've read so far, only certain ISP's support MLPPP protocol. I'm assuming Velcom does as you also use them as your ISP?

Shortly after this post the Velcom HD emailed and confirmed that they support the MLPPP protocol. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20767055 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:40:50 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20767017 Quake110 : No problem man. Anytime.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20767017 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:34:08 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766922 McGusto : Quake110,
thanks for your time, I'm looking forward upgrading the firmware and appreciate the guidance you've provided. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766922 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:14:42 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766891 Quake110 : This is definitely a chat room now :p

My router is the Linksys WRT54GS V1.1 and I've flashed it with the Tomato/MLPPP firmware.
Right now, with MLPPP enabled, the torrents are not throttled with a speed of 430 KB/s and up (on popular torrents) every day (including from 4:30 PM to 2:00 AM).

Btw, flashing the routers means you're going to put a new program in it (it's like if your computer has windows and you reformat it with Linux). Meaning you'll have to familiarise with Tomato/MLPPP but it's a more powerful firmware.

So I suggest that you read about it before doing in it because I don't want to have a non functioning router but nevertheless, it's quite simple.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766891 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:07:04 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766858 McGusto : I'm guessing this will wipe out all the current router settings?
Something to definitely try tomorrow.
Have you upgraded your firmware and how did you find the results?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766858 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:57:13 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766840 Quake110 : Asking to know if your router supports the Tomato/MLPPP firmware.

It does:
Linksys WRT54G v1-v4, WRT54GS v1-v4, WRT54GL v1.x, WRTSL54GS (no USB support)
- Buffalo WHR-G54S, WHR-HP-G54, WZR-G54, WBR2-G54
- Asus WL500G Premium (no USB support)

So... when you feel ready... if you want to... you could upgrade your router to bypass the throttling.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766840 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:53:34 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766821 McGusto : wrt54gs V2
what's on your mind?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766821 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:49:46 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766779 Quake110 : Check the bottom of the router, which version is it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766779 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:40:50 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766720 McGusto : argh... :( mid to low 30's on that torrent.

I'm using a linksys wrt54gs

I was reading up a bit on the tomato app, but haven't had time to really go through it.
As a workaround to throttling, it sounds promising.

After posting this, I checked UTorrent and it was up at 80kbs...hmmm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766720 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:28:01 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766677 Quake110 : The DSL companies don't throttle (Velcom, Teksavvy, Acanac) but Bell does. So yes, unfortunately, all the companies that uses Bell equipments are throttled.

Test by downloading this Knoppix linux distro
»torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/stats.···3984a421
If from 4:30 PM to 2:30 am the download is at 30 KB/s... then you're throttled :(

Btw, what's your router?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766677 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:21:07 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766599 McGusto : Cool.
Now to test for throttling. I understand all dsl companies throttle?
When I was with Rogers, from what I could tell, as long as there were many seeds, i could easily go into the 400kbs steadily. To me, it didn't seem like there was any throttling.
Any public torrents I can test with?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766599 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:06:56 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766275 Quake110 : Your first hop: 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.48.53.206.velcomdsl.ca [206.53.48.10]

has a low ping, if you were in interleave, that first hop's ping will probably be in the 40s ms.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766275 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:58:01 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766251 McGusto : Great!
How did you determine that so quickly?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766251 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:53:43 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766241 Quake110 : You're on Fast-path ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766241 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:52:39 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766238 Quake110 : I think you messed up with the paste, I don't see the pings.

Strike that :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766238 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:51:35 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766232 McGusto : As requested:

Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.48.53.206.velcomdsl.ca [206.53.48.10]
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 9.48.53.206.velcomdsl.ca [206.53.48.9]
4 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 34.48.53.206.velcomdsl.ca [206.53.48.34]
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms Vlan451.msfc4.TTT-Scarborough.teleglobe.net [209
.58.7.9]
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 207.45.220.164
7 28 ms 29 ms 31 ms if-4-0.mcore4.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net [216.6.98
.2]
8 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms if-2-0.core1.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net [216.6.63.
10]
9 29 ms 29 ms 27 ms ix-3-0.core1.NJY-Newark.Teleglobe.net [64.86.84.
178]
10 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms customer-side-netaccess-1-new3.new.seabone.net [
195.22.216.214]
11 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms 0.e1-4.tbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.122]
12 29 ms 31 ms 29 ms vlan804.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.2]
13 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]

Trace complete.

Will upgrading the modem to the TN516 vastly improve speed?
This is about average of a few speedtests taken today:

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20766232 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:49:15 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765465 Quake110 : Post your traceroute here and we'll be able to know if the line is interleaved of fastpath.

If you don't know how:
-Start, Run, type: cmd
-type: tracert dslreports.com
-Right click the mouse in the console, choose mark
-Highlight the traceroute and press enter
-Paste the result here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765465 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:24:42 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765232 McGusto : I've been emailing with the Velcom HD and because the line was just installed, it would take a few business days before they are able to do a thorough check on my profile.
I'm also curious to see if the line is interleaved or fastpath. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20765232 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:46:44 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762631 McGusto : CR123,
thanks for the info.
I was thinking the same thing, so I called up Velcom and asked how to logon to the modem and they said it was not possible as this model is in bridge mode.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762631 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:04:19 EDT Re: The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762331 CR123 : If you can try logging in to the modem, you can see what the modem is syncing at - speedtests show real world performance, but the modem knows what speed is actually being provided to it through DSL. Then you can narrow down the problem, hopefully.

Logins for different modems vary - Velcom might let you know how to login.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20762331 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:43:07 EDT The switch from Rogers to Velcom - first impressions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20761745 McGusto : Hi all,
today was my first day testing with Velcom (Dry DSL). I'm on the residential 5Mbs plan.
The modem provided is the briteport broadxent 8012-v.
Apart from changing the max MTU to 1492 in the registry and in the router, the speed tests are OK.
I've ran a couple of tests and I just cant make it past 3.7Mbs (with/without router):



I guess I've been spoiled with Rogers. The modem arrived with no instructions whatsoever. A separate email contained the PPoE ID/password.
No worries, tech support was fantastic. Their support through email turnaround was surprisingly fast and knowledgeable.
Overall, the money saved going from the Rogers Extreme plan, including the bandwidth over limit fee, will be significant.
I'm also planning to return the modem to Velcom and go for the GNET TN516 THOMSON SPEEDTOUCH 516 ADSL2+.
Tech support advised to monitor the speed over 2 days and get back to them with the results.
In the meantime, are there any other tweaks/suggestions to try to improve overall speed? Other speedtests to try?
Note: I've ran the trace and I am 1.5KM from the nearest CO.

Looking forward to your replies. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20761745 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:49:00 EDT