CIPPIC
join:2008-06-03
4 edits |  CIPPIC opens Bell/Rogers internet throttling investigation
“We are interested from hearing from individuals who are subscribers to Bell or Rogers’ high speed internet services who are concerned about alleged internet throttling practices by Bell and Rogers. If you were or are a subscriber and would like to express your concerns, please contact Robert Hester at the CIPPIC.”
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Update: for greater clarification we are not looking at customer's experience with ISPs who are negatively affected by Bell's throttling. However, if you were once a customer of Bell and have since switched, we are interested to hear from you.
To the many who have expressed interest via email thus far: You should expect a response in your inbox this coming Monday (July 15).
Some individuals have already emailed lengthy comments. At this stage we are looking for initial contact to be made and will progress with more depth in the future.
Great thanks to all who have submitted thus far.
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Contact information can be found by:
• emailing rhester //at// cippic.ca (preferred)
• PMing this poster
• »www.cippic.ca
Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic,
University of Ottawa
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globus999
join:2008-05-15 | Does this include those of us who are NOT Bell or Rogers customers, but are throttled by Bell anyhow?
For example, customers of wholesalers like TekSavvy? We're still affected by Bell's throttling. |
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CIPPIC
join:2008-06-03 | No, this does not include Teksavvy or other DSL ISPs which are subject to Bell's throttling.
I will respond to all emails.
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pandoras hope
@videotron.ca | I hope this turns into a class action like with the Quebec Consumers Union. |
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24 | reply to CIPPIC
Why is Cogeco not being mentioned in this, and it seems they have never been? They are using the same methods as Rogers. |
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Wolf Fu
join:2006-01-21
Cambridge, ON
| Cogeco and the 3rd parties are probably not being mentioned in this because they do not own the infrastructure. Bell and Roger's do...thus they are 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd tier suppliers to the consumer.
Cogeco and Teksavvy are 3rd tier suppliers...and by proxy they can do what they want.
Cut the beast off at the head. |
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by Wolf Fu  :Cogeco and Teksavvy are 3rd tier suppliers Huh? TSI relies on Bell for connection, yes, but Cogeco has their own infrastructure, and doesn't have to rely on anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Wolf Fu
join:2006-01-21
Cambridge, ON | I'm not speaking for the fellow, but making an inference. Besides...find out who truly owns the infrastructure. You'll find it's largely Bell and Roger's. |
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out_west
@shawcable.net | reply to CIPPIC
What about if you are a Shaw customer? Don't forget the west! |
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON | Chuckles, Shaw isn't making as much publicity as Bell Canada has caused for themselves. |
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Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
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said by Wolf Fu :Cogeco and Teksavvy are 3rd tier suppliers...and by proxy they can do what they want. Um, what kind of crack are you smoking? Cogeco is Canada's fourth largest cable company. They own their own infrastructure and, from a network standpoint, are identical to Rogers. In fact, Cogeco resells their services to other ISPs like Bell sells to Teksavvy. Cogeco is very much in control of their own network. You may want to do some more research into the telecommunications industry in Canada before you comment on something that you clearly haven't got a vague clue about.
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DS
IT Consultant
Premium
join:2007-01-19
Thunder Bay, ON
| said by Snickerdo :said by Wolf Fu :Cogeco and Teksavvy are 3rd tier suppliers...and by proxy they can do what they want. Um, what kind of crack are you smoking? Cogeco is Canada's fourth largest cable company. They own their own infrastructure and, from a network standpoint, are identical to Rogers. In fact, Cogeco resells their services to other ISPs like Bell sells to Teksavvy. Cogeco is very much in control of their own network. You may want to do some more research into the telecommunications industry in Canada before you comment on something that you clearly haven't got a vague clue about. Agreed...
Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Videotron, and Shaw are all Tier2 Providers.
There is no residential provider I am aware of in Canada that classifies as a Tier1 provider.
All these companies pay for IP transit from their upstream providers and do not have an open door peering policies setup. |
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Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| said by DS :There is no residential provider I am aware of in Canada that classifies as a Tier1 provider. All these companies pay for IP transit from their upstream providers and do not have an open door peering policies setup. Right, though I suppose Bell is the closest thing we have in Canada to a Tier 1 provider.
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | reply to pandoras hope
Re: CIPPIC opens Bell/Rogers internet throttling investigation
A lot of people that worked from home are no longer able to carry on their job. Well so much for their former job. |
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stainless
@videotron.ca | said by Bellundo :
A lot of people that worked from home are no longer able to carry on their job. Well so much for their former job.
The they should contact CIPPIC |
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