Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
| Is AT&T removing alt.* newsgroups
I saw this article today with the following bit:
»news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-99882···nefd.top
"AT&T spokesman Marty Richter told me that the company is going to cease offering the alt.* hierarchy, which include sex-themed newsgroups but also ones such as alt.binaries.pictures.aviation, alt.binaries.drwho.pictures, and alt.binaries.pictures.vehicles. Customers will continue to be able to access third-party Usenet providers.
AT&T's existing policy has been to investigate all complaints of child porn hosted on its servers--and promptly remove any illegal images--within three business days. That will not change. On Thursday, AT&T said it will enter into an agreement with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children to consult the group's lists in addition to complaints received from other sources."
Is this really true? Nothing came up on Google News except a mention in some Arizona paper. |
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Dont Think So
| I don't see that happening anytime soon but that's just pure speculation on my part. Have you posed this question to Dennis? |
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| reply to Zoder
On or before 6/28/2008 The attached list of groups were deleted from newsgroups.bellsouth.net. I have not checked since then to see if more have been deleted. |
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DaveO
join:2001-09-05
Easley, SC | reply to Zoder
This article makes it sound like ATT is going to get rid of every alt.binaries newsgroup.
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080711/ap_···nography |
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26
| reply to Zoder
This has been posted and reposted on the BS support newsgroup in the last 24 hours and so far Dennis has not made any comment whatsoever. If he continues to not respond then I think it's a done deal. Afterall he made the statement a few days ago, "there are NO changes scheduled for the AT&T/BS newsgroup service". Apparently that schedule was changed quickly.
Of course if it is confirmed a whole crew of people are going to start screaming that "I'm leaving AT&T/BS because of this". That will be fruitless because before long all the ISP's are going to follow suit and get rid of the alt hierarchy or usenet altogether.
May as well bite the bullet and get a premium news service and stay with AT&T/BS. |
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26
1 edit | reply to Zoder
This is what Dennis just posted on the support newsgroup to my inquiry. I think the sad face he put at the bottom pretty much says what it is.
"We are working on the legal statement now. It will not be much longer and then everyone will no at the same time."
:-( |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
| reply to graysonf
said by graysonf  :On or before 6/28/2008 The attached list of groups were deleted from newsgroups.bellsouth.net. I have not checked since then to see if more have been deleted. Well good riddance. I can't imagine why they were kept around this long.
It's complete crap that they are removing the entire hierarchy under the guise of child porn. At least be honest if you don't want to carry Alt.binaries.* anymore. |
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charlie92
join:2005-09-29
Brandon, MS
 ·AT&T Southeast
| "Dennis" has posted (today July 11, 2008) that Bellsouth is working on an official announcement concerning the axing of the alt. heirarcy. I have already switched news providers.
It is simply a move under the guise of "pornography" to lower costs for AT&T while removing access to many many more legitimate ng's. I often read and post in alt.anti-virus. Why should it be dumped as part of a so-called "porno crusade?'
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26 | reply to Zoder
As of a few minutes ago the entire alt hierarchy has been deleted from the AT&T/BS servers. Hasta Lavista alt. I'm sure there will be lots of gnashing of teeth by tonight when those who used those groups and work out of the home get home. |
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DaveO
join:2001-09-05
Easley, SC | reply to Zoder
I wish AT&T had never bought Bellsouth. |
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26
| said by DaveO :I wish AT&T had never bought Bellsouth. You and me both. But, all is not over. I just signed up with Giganews for the Silver Plan for 25 GB/downloads per month for $12.99/mo. That's not that bad and I'll never use 25 GB in a month.
I'll bet the premium news services are smiling broadly today! |
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charlie92
join:2005-09-29
Brandon, MS
·AT&T Southeast
| Getting 20G/month for $5.95 with Agent Premium News service
at »www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php They have 90 day retention on binaries. It is the same company (Forte) that for literally decades have produced and developed the Agent News / Email client. Now at v 4.2 I have used their news service before and it is very satisfactory.
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| reply to mdv921
said by mdv921 :As of a few minutes ago the entire alt hierarchy has been deleted from the AT&T/BS servers. Hasta Lavista alt. I'm sure there will be lots of gnashing of teeth by tonight when those who used those groups and work out of the home get home. Really? I thought I read it was the alt.binaries hierarchy. |
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26
| said by RJ44 :said by mdv921 :As of a few minutes ago the entire alt hierarchy has been deleted from the AT&T/BS servers. Hasta Lavista alt. I'm sure there will be lots of gnashing of teeth by tonight when those who used those groups and work out of the home get home. Really? I thought I read it was the alt.binaries hierarchy. Well now you may be right. All my 'alt' groups were binary groups and I didn't bother to check to see if any non-binary groups were gone. I just ass*u*me*d, which I shouldn't have done.
At the rate it's going with bringing up all the headers Giganews still has on their servers, I'll be downloading headers for the next 24 hours straight. |
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Kag3musha
@bellsouth.net
| reply to Zoder
Well I do not download or view kiddy porn, nor do I steal music....but I am now going to change providers.
Yup...after almost eight years with Bellsouth(AT&T) I am going to be changing providers.
I am tired of the "for the children" crowd getting the government to force private enterprise to do their bidding.
There are a TON more groups in the alt.* category than just warez and porn.
Fscking idiots. |
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vilfrard
join:2005-06-22
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| reply to Zoder
alt.binaries.erotic.children
alt.binaries.erotica.pre-teen
alt.binaries.pictures.amateur.male
alt.binaries.pictures.child
alt.binaries.pictures.child.erotica
alt.binaries.pictures.child.erotica.female
alt.binaries.pictures.child.erotica.male
alt.binaries.pictures.child.starlets
alt.binaries.pictures.children
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.13-17
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.age.13-17
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.lolita
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.bestiality.pre-teen
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.child
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.child.female
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teen
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teens
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teens.firsthair
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teens.hardcore
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.female.young.moderated
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.hornyrob
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.incest
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.ll-series
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.lolita
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.mclt
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.preteen
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teen
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teen.chatter
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teens
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pussy.firsthair
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pw-series
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.rape.loki
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.young
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.young.orientals
alt.binaries.pictures.kids
alt.binaries.pictures.lolita
alt.binaries.pictures.lolita.fucking
alt.binaries.pictures.lolita.misc
alt.binaries.pictures.young
alt.binaries.pictures.youth
These are not the only groups deleted I can't get any Alt. groups to come up |
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stomp357
join:2003-04-13
Lake Charles, LA
 ·Suddenlink
| reply to Zoder
As much as liked my DSL over the years, the only reason I stayed was for the alt.binaries. Now I'm gona test drive cable for a month, and see how the 8Mbit/512kbps service holds up. The last time I had cable was back in 2000, and DSL was way better, so I switched. My brother has had cable since 2000, and his suked for a long time, but until a little over a year ago, his speeds have been pretty solid, even in the afternoons.
If mine is pretty solid, then I'm giving AT&T the boot. Suddenlink doesn't have news service, but you can access the news.lga.highwinds-media.com from Suddenlink the last time I tried at my brother's. Bellsouth/AT&T seems to be blocked from this server. Hopefully Suddenlink will hold up since their 8Mbit service is cheaper than AT&T 6Mbit. |
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yesse
join:2004-05-09
Debary, FL
| reply to Kag3musha
said by Kag3musha :
Well I do not download or view kiddy porn, nor do I steal music....but I am now going to change providers.
Yup...after almost eight years with Bellsouth(AT&T) I am going to be changing providers.
I am tired of the "for the children" crowd getting the government to force private enterprise to do their bidding.
There are a TON more groups in the alt.* category than just warez and porn.
Fscking idiots.
Boy have you hit the nail on the head for me with your statement. After almost seven years of service with Bellsouth/AT&T I too will be switching providers. It'll be somewhat of a hassle at first but I would now rather give my money to someone else. Bad move AT&T, very bad. |
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jmontyburns
join:2002-12-17
Nashville, TN
| reply to Zoder
Amazingly dumb swath they're cutting
I just updated newsgroups and all the alt.binaries groups are gone. HOWEVER, in their infinite wisdom, they left all the alt.sex groups, including the alt.sex.pedophilia trees. I use an alternative provider and even they won't carry those. This is just a lame excuse to get rid of the binaries groups. They know full well that most of those groups don't carry the kiddie porn. Wow, they're either incredibly dishonest or incredibly stupid. Probably both. |
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savetheinternet
@bellsouth.net
| AT&T - the new BS... No Binaries? WTF!
I have been a bellsouth customer for over 6 years and can honestly say that everything has been downhill since the AT&T merger. What was the point in breaking them up in the first place?
I can confirm all alt.binaries removed today when just yesterday everything was fine...
Now, thanks to AT&T, Bellsouth really can be abbreviated as BS! |
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