MichaelGA
@bellsouth.net
|  reply to Zoder
Re: Is AT&T removing alt.* newsgroups
Confirming that all binary groups seem gone now.
Seeing as all the binary groups are now gone I may decide to switch ISPs finally. I quite enjoyed browsing through various newsgroups, and quite frankly can't afford to pay a separate fee.
I've been a customer for around 8 years, and they really dropped the ball with this one. |
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Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
 ·AT&T Southeast
1 edit | reply to Zoder
This doesn't have anything to do with child porn.
"We are doing it to save the little children." is just a smoke screen for something they want to do that would be unpopular if they told you the true reason so they just tell you this lie to pull at your heart strings.
The only way to deal with these Monsters that do these things to children is to hunt them down and shoot them in the back of the head with a .45 and if you can't sneak up on them then shoot them in the face. No judge, no jury, just shoot them in the head. What if a mistake is made? Collateral Damage. Remember we are doing this to save the little children.
If AT&T/BellSouth gave a shit about child porn they would have made these groups go away a long time ago. It's not like alt.binaries.pictures.lolita.fucking and those like it just popped up one day out of the blue. They have been there for a long time.
They probably received a friendly heads up from the RIAA/MPAA that they are going to start to sue the shit out of newsgroups providers and this is just their way to get out of this mess before the SHTF.
These groups don't want to piss off the big ISPs because the MPAA will want to be licensing movies to AT&T for U-verse and like all pay tv services they will also have many dozens of music channels to listen to so that will cover the RIAA.
Don't believe me? Just hold those thoughts for 6 months from now and see.
I could be wrong, but just wait and see.
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To everybody wanting to run away to another provider.
There is no need to do that because all of the big ISPs will be getting rid of these newsgroups too.
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
"Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't."
Quotes by Benjamin Franklin. |
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powerpop
@bellsouth.net
| reply to Zoder
Wow, that was a surprise to find as I came home from work. Clearly, anyone who remotely thinks this had anything to do with what AT&T says it does is not thinking very hard. Over the years when I've considered switching providers I didn't because of Newsgroup access. Heck, this might be even a better time to not only switch providers, but get rid of my phone service as well.
Bigtime disappointment from a long time customer. |
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kashikan
@bellsouth.net | reply to Zoder
Wow. I guess this will be my last month with Bellsouth/ATT DSL. |
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DeathStarDummies
| reply to Airwolf7
said by Airwolf7  :This doesn't have anything to do with child porn. They probably received a friendly heads up from the RIAA/MPAA that they are going to start to sue the shit out of newsgroups providers and this is just their way to get out of this mess before the SHTF. Bingo! I agree 100%
said by Airwolf7 :To everybody wanting to run away to another provider. There is no need to do that because all of the big ISPs will be getting rid of these newsgroups too. I realize that most other ISPs will be doing the same thing if not already. The reason I stayed with Bellsouth was that they offered free, unlimited, and reliable usenet access. That no longer is the case so I will try out the offer Comcast has been pitching me for the past two years. More than double the speed for the same price per month, if not a bit less. |
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Digg It
@bellsouth.net
| reply to Zoder
Let's Digg this BS to Frontpage...
What's with the "Save the Children" antics? At least be honest with people and tell them the new AT&T is just cutting back on bandwidth to appease the MPAA/RIAA, etc.
I have been reading Digg.com social media every day for the past few years and feel this article needs to make frontpage.
Digg it up to show your support @ »digg.com/tech_news/AT_T_Blocks_e···up_today |
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Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to DeathStarDummies
Re: Is AT&T removing alt.* newsgroups
AT&T Southeast would have to beat me with a stick to get me to leave my FastAccess DSL Xtreme 6.0 and line powered POTS voice service with real 911 for another provider.
Lives are at stake and I can't do without real phone service and I would put my Xtreme 6.0 up against anything Comcast has to offer from a reliability standpoint and from a speed standpoint below 16Mbps/2Mbps except for the upload side of things, but I don't really care about upload that much. That PowerBoost thing is pretty nice though for little files.
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
"Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't."
Quotes by Benjamin Franklin. |
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26
1 edit | reply to Zoder
But what are you guys gonna do when the new ISP's you go to get rid of alt groups or usenet altogether? You know they're going to do it eventually. The government is forcing the ISP's hands on this and the ISP's are buckling. And frankly I don't really think that AT&T would care if every customer they had who used the newsgroups up and left. The newsgroup community is quite small as a whole. I rarely find anyone who has internet service who even knows what the newsgroups are. Hell, I've talked to AT&T/BS tech support people in the past who don't even know what newsgroups are.
You may as well stay where you are (if you like the service) and get a 3rd party news service. |
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sickwookie
join:2003-08-25
Asheville, NC | alt.binaries.* seems to be gone, but alt.sex.* is untouched so whatever the reason it does not seem to be about any type of porn. I would have to guess that the decision had more to do with warez. |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL | I typically download 2 GB or less from newsgroups per month. So what's a cheap newsgroup provider with good completion rates for low usage customers? |
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Kurt V
@bellsouth.net
| reply to sickwookie
said by sickwookie :I would have to guess that the decision had more to do with warez. I've always thought that they relish the fact that they now have an excuse to drop a service that must have consumed an inordinate amount of bandwidth. |
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| reply to Zoder
Have a look at Altopia »https://www.altopia.com/
Unlimited use, unlimited bitrate, as low as $6.00/mo.
You can try it and if you don't like it, you can cancel within the first two weeks and get your money back. Hard to say no to that. |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
| reply to Kurt V
said by Kurt V :said by sickwookie :I would have to guess that the decision had more to do with warez. I've always thought that they relish the fact that they now have an excuse to drop a service that must have consumed an inordinate amount of bandwidth. But now all of that bandwidth will flow from off network sites. Won't that cost them more money? |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
| reply to graysonf
said by graysonf :Have a look at Altopia » https:// www.altopia.com/Unlimited use, unlimited bitrate, as low as $6.00/mo. You can try it and if you don't like it, you can cancel within the first two weeks and get your money back. Hard to say no to that. Thanks, I'll take a look. |
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ATT can blow me
| reply to Zoder
said by Zoder :I typically download 2 GB or less from newsgroups per month. So what's a cheap newsgroup provider with good completion rates for low usage customers? Usenet-news.net
They offer block accounts (pay-per-gigabyte with no time limit) that are non expiring and non-recurring. The retention is now over 100 days in binary groups. A 2GB block acount would be $2, 30GB is $10, and a 100GB block account is $24. So for $10 you could get just over a years worth of usage if you download 2GB or less a month. I've been pricing for most of the day and this seems the best option for me, your mileage may vary. I'm pretty dead set on the 100GB for $24, which would last me about a year.
Pricing ==> »usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get
Here is a link to some other premium Usenet providers with user reviews. »www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=3 |
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mdv921
join:2008-06-26
| said by ATT can blow me :said by Zoder :I typically download 2 GB or less from newsgroups per month. So what's a cheap newsgroup provider with good completion rates for low usage customers? Usenet-news.net They offer block accounts (pay-per-gigabyte with no time limit) that are non expiring and non-recurring. The retention is now over 100 days in binary groups. A 2GB block acount would be $2, 30GB is $10, and a 100GB block account is $24. So for $10 you could get just over a years worth of usage if you download 2GB or less a month. I've been pricing for most of the day and this seems the best option for me, your mileage may vary. I'm pretty dead set on the 100GB for $24, which would last me about a year. Pricing ==> » usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=getHere is a link to some other premium Usenet providers with user reviews. » www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=3 Do you know what their completion rate is? |
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ATT can blow me
| Completion rates seems to be 95%+ judging from what I've read on Slyck.com forums. |
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winterfez6
join:2007-02-02
Forest Park, GA
| reply to mdv921
OMFG, the only reason i stay with BS for this whole year was because they offer newsgroups. Now that is gone, i would rather sign up for a faster speed internet provider (Comcast the only OTHER provider offered higher than 6MB with cheaper price)then sign up for Giganews or something to access newsgroups. |
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Kurt V
@bellsouth.net
| reply to Zoder
But now all of that bandwidth will flow from off network sites. Won't that cost them more money?
Of the people who use usenet (or any service that is "free"), how many do you think will use it when it costs $5-$15 per month? 10 percent? |
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stomp357
join:2003-04-13
Lake Charles, LA
 ·Suddenlink
| reply to Zoder
said by Zoder :I typically download 2 GB or less from newsgroups per month. So what's a cheap newsgroup provider with good completion rates for low usage customers? Agent's APN usenet service has a 10GB a month for $2.95. Don't know how good it is, but the first month is a "no-risk trial", so you get a refund if you don't like it. |
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