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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170742"><b>Jim Gurd</b></A> : Those things are the exact opposite of the old fashioned touchtone converters that were used when connecting a touchtone phone to a step-by-step switch.  A lot of independent phone companies had that kind of setup back in the day.<br><br>I can remember being able to use my calling card without operator assistance using one of those payphones.  I had to dial an 800 number to connect to my long distance carrier (Sprint).  The payphones were post pay and the phone company made any calls starting with 1 go immediately to a reorder.  In order access my carrier I had to dial 0+800 instead of 1+800.  Once I connected I could touchtone out the number I was calling and the calling card number with no problem.  Ahh, the memories.<br><br>Now the old steps are gone and replaced with digital switches even in the most remote areas. :(<br><small>--<br>Calling an illegal alien an undocumented worker is like calling a crack dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:14:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/125849"><b>Madness</b></A> : OK, that's is a Bell 554 wall phone. Same guts as the 500, though. One would need a pulse-to-tone converter to dial out on VoIP (using the dial!). They're <A HREF="http://www.phonecoinc.com/topic.asp?map=1&hhrl=home&gorl=group&group=misc&category=Acc&topic=01058"> not cheap </a> though!<br><br>Of course, one could also use one of those old-school portable tone dialers that are held up to the mouthpiece, But, of course, that takes away the thrill of using the rotary dial.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:13:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170742"><b>Jim Gurd</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Madness <A HREF="/useremail/u/125849"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>A little tip: Assuming you used a Bell 500 set, take the cover off (two screws on the bottom) & turn the phone so the ringer faces forward. Look closely between the gongs & you should see a sideways-G-shaped hole w/ a springy bar sticking out of it -- this is the "biasing spring." If presently set to the bottom of the "G", reverse it (see here: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.porticus.org/bell/images/bells/weak_bias_pos.jpg" >www.porticus.org/bell/images/bel&middot;&middot;&middot;_pos.jpg</A> ).<br> </div>Thank you, thank you!!  I moved it over like it showed in the picture and now it rings properly when connected to my VoIP service.<br><br>Here is a picture I took of it with my cell phone camera a while ago.<br><br>It's too bad that VoIP doesn't work with pulse dialing.  That phone worked really well with rotary dialing back when I had a POTS line.<br><small>--<br>Calling an illegal alien an undocumented worker is like calling a crack dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.</small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=66%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/20771376?c=1326535&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMDc3MjY5OS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="5891 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=320 HEIGHT=240 SRC="/r0/download/1326535~3d8b7dd294c136dcac7741db49cc9ef1/08-30-06_2019.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:32:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1528955"><b>EPS</b></A> : Interesting- I've never know a house with bad inside wiring, even some older ones dating back to the 1920s were fine, but I guess that's just pure luck.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:53:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/455278"><b>Austinloop</b></A> : Haven't paid a penny for the phone since I got it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:39:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/125849"><b>Madness</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Jim Gurd <A HREF="/useremail/u/170742"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Enlightener <A HREF="/useremail/u/1320486"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br></div>The only problem was that the old mechanical bell ringer would draw too much power and would barely be audible when a call was coming in.  Receiving calls worked perfectly though.<br> </div>A little tip: Assuming you used a Bell 500 set, take the cover off (two screws on the bottom) & turn the phone so the ringer faces forward. Look closely between the gongs & you should see a sideways-G-shaped hole w/ a springy bar sticking out of it -- this is the "biasing spring." If presently set to the bottom of the "G", reverse it (see here: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.porticus.org/bell/images/bells/weak_bias_pos.jpg" >www.porticus.org/bell/images/bel&middot;&middot;&middot;_pos.jpg</A> ).<br><br>In the old days, this was set by the "telephone man" to high or low depending on how many extensions the customer had. In other words, the more ringers wired across the line, the higher the load. So one of the settings allowed the phone to ring w/ less power. I found this same setting also works great w/ a VOIP terminal. :)<br><br>FWIW: I'm using a Touch-Tone 2500 phone w/ same guts.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:34:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Late to the game . . . maybe, but this site enters the game under a whole new set of rules.  Go to the older site mentioned ablove and find out who the cable provider is where your moving (period), ohh unless you want to download a PDF file with a static list with 10 or so duh factor "moving tips" or . . . check out &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.movearoo.com" >www.movearoo.com</A> and allow it to manage your entire move process with the personally/customizable interactive move calander, find out who the gas and electric company are wher you're moving, set up your newspaper subscription(s), online banking, etc. etc. etc.<br>Sounds like this venture is poised to deliver the same reliability and staying power as the old landline phone services you mentioned.  Try making a frantic 911 call in an emergency and have to give your location or better yet when your power is out through one of "the other guys".  Sometimes it's better to build the plane before you take off and attempt to fly it!!!    ;)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:01:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1447722"><b>supergirl</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  EPS <A HREF="/useremail/u/1528955"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Those rotary phones may be old and rely on an outdated dialing system, but for the most part they just work, even now- I doubt any modern cordless talking caller ID electronic phone will last that long.<br> </div>Depends solely on your inside wire mostly. If the NID and cables have shorts, it'll suck too (I had the outside box--not the NID--have a screw loose and it took 8 techs and 1 engineer to fix it--the young tech found it withing 15 minutes of showing up  :uhh: Once he fixed the screw--only 3,000 ft. from the CO--the phone was awesome--I moved and the inside wire was all bad--lots of shorts--so Cox got the business--no inside wire required). You can have FIOS at the door and if your wiring sucks, FIOS sucks. Old Copper is about the worst crap I've used--and they HATE replacing drops and lines. Cox Digital Voice beats it by miles unless your in a new development. Even then, I wouldn't trade DSL 6.0/768 for 15/1 Cox HSI. I've referred so many customers that my bills sometimes get paid by Cox. I do the same with my cell co. and they give me a $25 credit everytime I refer someone to my rep. I had a $400 credit once on a $100 cell bill so 25 people went to my rep. Nice, huh? <br><small>--<br>Saving the world keeps me busy. However, I find Earth very primitive from my home planet of Krypton.<br>-Supergirl</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:46:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1529871"><b>lvlorpheus</b></A> : Whats really funny is someone reading this probable Googled (rotary phones). I think I still have a few packed up somewhere myself. It makes me wonder if cheap and made in China is better than old and reliable.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:24:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/567879"><b>Kearnstd</b></A> : those old AT&T phones?  well all the scrapped tank armor from wars long gone had to be used somewhere....Western Electric must have used it to build those phones.  they took a beating and weighed like 20lbs.<br><small>--<br>[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:17:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170742"><b>Jim Gurd</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Enlightener <A HREF="/useremail/u/1320486"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Actually they are incompatible with VOIP.  The terminal adapters don't process the clicks.<br> </div>That's true but it will still work for incoming calls.  I have an old rotary phone that I tried to use.  The only problem was that the old mechanical bell ringer would draw too much power and would barely be audible when a call was coming in.  Receiving calls worked perfectly though.<br><small>--<br>Calling an illegal alien an undocumented worker is like calling a crack dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:58:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1320486"><b>Enlightener</b></A> : Actually they are incompatible with VOIP.  The terminal adapters don't process the clicks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/856374"><b>jester121</b></A> : So the people that paid $5/month for phone rental to AT&T for 30 years probably got their money's worth. :uhh:]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:36:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/455278"><b>Austinloop</b></A> : You are right.  I have an old (prebreakup) wall phone from AT&T.  It just keeps on working.  Every other phone in the house has been replaced at least 2 times.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:04:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1528955"><b>EPS</b></A> : Those rotary phones may be old and rely on an outdated dialing system, but for the most part they just work, even now- I doubt any modern cordless talking caller ID electronic phone will last that long.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:48:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1250575"><b>MadMANN</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  JSRoman <A HREF="/useremail/u/1171845"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cablemover.com/" >www.cablemover.com/</A><br> </div>"Late to the game like always."<br><br>No doubt.  Next thing you know they'll start giving away rotary phones to new customers.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:10:19 EDT</pubDate>
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