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Re: Apparently the music thieves now drive internet policy
said by mrchris  :@TK Junk: Is this all you care about the poor Telco and Cablecos and not the common people these days?? If by "common people", you mean music and movie thieves, then you are right - I don't care. But if you mean everyone else who pays higher prices to support the leaches, then I do care.
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Rockville, MD | we should shut down the internet to protect the **AAs, then tax consumers and give the money to the telcos to make up for the lost revenue.
that's a win-win! (except for consumers).
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said by TKJunkMail :said by mrchris :@TK Junk: Is this all you care about the poor Telco and Cablecos and not the common people these days?? If by "common people", you mean music and movie thieves, then you are right - I don't care. But if you mean everyone else who pays higher prices to support the leaches, then I do care. Hello Mr.Troll!
I download Linux ISOs. I am not a thief yet i disapprove what these incumbent ISPs are attempting to do. Does this make me a thief that is trying to influence Internet policy ?
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said by hottboiinnc :You're the troll for calling TK one. he said people WHO DOWNLOAD MUSIC AND MOVIES! Not Linux ISOs. Go read his post. Nice try. This is what he said : "All this wailing and gnashing of teeth in the U.S. and Canada and around the world for that matter is driven by the music & movie thieves. Threaten to cut off their daily fix and they mobilize groups to restore their unlimited access to FREE content. God forbid anyone thwart their desires and off to court they go demanding their "rights"."
He basically blames this anty ISP reaction on pirates and simply chooses to ignore the positive uses of P2P as i described in my post. A troll is a troll.
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Well these "thieves" also tend to be the more tech savvy of us. They tend to not have white hair on their heads and green bills shoved up their arses.
So YES, the thieve have a great influence towards the web trends.
Here's the deal today, any web enabled pc can access youtube.com that handy site happens to have A LOT of music on it. Now I know your going to say, "Yea but...", here's the reality. UMG has starting putting their own music online. With just a few clicks almost any artist can be heard. Same applies for a few other sites too.
Personally I've not downloaded any music, as I've found most things on youtube.
Oh, since you can't return a cd, instead of sampling the cd in store, you download and listen at home. If you deem it worth a purchase, you proceed to the store and purchase it. If not, delete. |
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said by adisor19 :said by hottboiinnc :You're the troll for calling TK one. he said people WHO DOWNLOAD MUSIC AND MOVIES! Not Linux ISOs. Go read his post. Nice try. This is what he said : "All this wailing and gnashing of teeth in the U.S. and Canada and around the world for that matter is driven by the music & movie thieves. Threaten to cut off their daily fix and they mobilize groups to restore their unlimited access to FREE content. God forbid anyone thwart their desires and off to court they go demanding their "rights"." He basically blames this anty ISP reaction on pirates and simply chooses to ignore the positive uses of P2P as i described in my post. A troll is a troll. Adi Constantly repeating a baseless accusation doesn't make it true. But many here think that if they yell loud enough and long enough it somehow will become true.
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Not all 'common people' pirate music and movies 24/7 as the stereotype you bring up..
Well I admit I do download music on occasion (not the popular shit some of you listen to, nor via P2P) just because I don't have the funds to buy every single CD. Some of them are even pricey or even not pressed anymore.
I use the internet for more...normal things like you do also..
»freemetalalbums.blogspot.com
Go ahead and accuse me of providing 'pirated' stuff, because the stuff this site links to is media provided by bands themselves.  |
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In YOUR opinion, after all opinions are like farts sometimes you can only stand the smell of your own brand.
But the point of the matter is throttled service affects everyone, I update my linux distro via torrent. I download public domain music off torrents all the time. I use you-tube, and many other bandwidth intense things. So how dare you say that those of us who want net-neutrality only do so to be able to download pirated materials!It is an uneducated, opinionated, and silly statement to make.
Cheers, and try not to make such a blanket statement in the future, it will spare you embarrassments, and flames next time 'round! Cheers |
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said by hottboiinnc :You're the troll for calling TK one. he said people WHO DOWNLOAD MUSIC AND MOVIES! Not Linux ISOs. Go read his post. ACTUALLY:this is whatTK wrote: All this wailing and gnashing of teeth in the U.S. and Canada and around the world for that matter is driven by the music & movie thieves.
that's what I call a blanket statement... |
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said by realitybytes :In YOUR opinion, after all opinions are like farts sometimes you can only stand the smell of your own brand. But the point of the matter is throttled service affects everyone, I update my linux distro via torrent. I download public domain music off torrents all the time. I use you-tube, and many other bandwidth intense things. So how dare you say that those of us who want net-neutrality only do so to be able to download pirated materials!It is an uneducated, opinionated, and silly statement to make. Cheers, and try not to make such a blanket statement in the future, it will spare you embarrassments, and flames next time 'round! Cheers I would be spared flames if posters followed site rules. Too much to hope I guess.
And if you read the post you would see that I didn't say that ONLY those who pirate want net neutrality. I did say that the Pirates want net neutrality, but made no mention of other groups.
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If you TRUELY want to only pay for your own use and not the use of others you should be advocating per byte billing. Anything else is hypocrisy as per byte billing is the ONLY fair way to bill for exact amount of usage.
Personally I think you're damned selfish, we all pay for the use of others, you benefit from some, you don't on others. It's one of the aspects of living in a free open society with other people. If you only want to have to look out for yourself there are plenty of countries in this world that allow that Utopian paradise of every man for himself (Somolia being a prime example), most are rather sh!tty places to live but if it's what you want feel free to relocate. Otherwise just admit you're a self obsessed individual with no respect for your fellow species who'd rather not be a civilized member of a progressive society. |
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| said by rahvin112 :If you TRUELY want to only pay for your own use and not the use of others you should be advocating per byte billing. Anything else is hypocrisy as per byte billing is the ONLY fair way to bill for exact amount of usage. If you follow BBR front page stories on this subject, you would see that I have been pushing for per byte billing for at least a year or more. Ask anybody - I have been attacked for that very stance.
said by rahvin112 :Personally I think you're damned selfish, we all pay for the use of others, you benefit from some, you don't on others. And, of course, there is the PERSONAL attack - used by those who won't debate the issues.
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Yep everyone on here as always is saying TK said something he didnt. HE said MUSIC and MOVIES he did not say anything about ISOs or anything else.
You guys need to learn how to read! Public libraries will teach you this. |
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TK - your statement attributes ALL of the angst about throttling to the pirates and thieves. Perhaps you should tone it back a bit as others did not misconstrue your statement. Use of a term like All instead of some or most is troll like behavior and would illicit the kind of remarks you received.
To set you straight, when you used the term ALL you did indeed say that only the pirates and thieves are involved. |
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