Topic 'Re: Impressive' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780804 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:14:48 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:14:48 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-21089002
If you want to challenge the IRS in the way it computes statistics, go right ahead.
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said by RR Conductor:

Republicans proposing delivered help for the middle and lower classes? It DEFINITELY must be an election year.
Fixed it for you.

Thanks to GOP tax policies, the top 1% of income tax payers pay almost 40% of all the income tax paid. The top 5% pay almost 60% of all federal income tax. The top 10% pay a little over 70% of all federal income tax. The top 25% pay almost 86% of the the federal income tax. The top 50% of earners pay almost 97% of all federal income tax.

»www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/05in05tr.xls (line 174)

Anyone who suggests that the middle and lower classes pay any appreciable tax is always completely and totally mistaken, or is lying. The IRS confirms it.
No, the IRS only output numbers. It did not adequately define "middle" class. Likewise, "Middle" class changes from state to state, coast to coast, city to city, even down to the subcommunity level.

Looking at San Diego CA, if I wanted to show measurable income stats, technically "middle class" would be about $300,000/year. That's because of places like Eastlake and Rancho Santa Fe, as well as some downtown central areas where the living arrangements are in the millions of dollars. But that's not accurate is it?

Take Fort Smith Arkansas. "middle class" out there is likely to be about $30-35k/year. That's because it doesn't cost nearly as much to get by as it does in other areas.

Classes are determined by (a) the money you make vs. (b) the money you have to spend to get by. Not one or the other. You have to consider both.

That said, the IRS figures are inflated. Of course 50% of taxpayers pay 90% of the taxes; Look at all of the people who don't file. Look at all the people who are unemployed. Look at all the people who file falsely. If EVERYONE with a source of income...any income: gambling, use tax, etc etc etc...filed their tax forms properly, that percentage would drop sharply. Guaranteed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-21088954 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:49:12 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20783651 said by RR Conductor:

Republicans proposing delivered help for the middle and lower classes? It DEFINITELY must be an election year. Fixed it for you.

Thanks to GOP tax policies, the top 1% of income tax payers pay almost 40% of all the income tax paid. The top 5% pay almost 60% of all federal income tax. The top 10% pay a little over 70% of all federal income tax. The top 25% pay almost 86% of the the federal income tax. The top 50% of earners pay almost 97% of all federal income tax.

»www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/05in05tr.xls (line 174)

Anyone who suggests that the middle and lower classes pay any appreciable tax is always completely and totally mistaken, or is lying. The IRS confirms it.
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This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20783651 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:32:17 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20782992 said by pnh102:

Democrats proposing a tax cut? It must be an election year.
Republicans proposing help for the middle and lower classes? It DEFINITELY must be an election year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20782992 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:17:49 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20782659 said by Combat Chuck:

Sunshine, lollipops, good feelings, and change will clearly make the debt disappear.
You forgot "rainbow unicorns"...
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20782659 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:55:42 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20781536 said by pnh102:

Even B. Hussein Obama admits he doesn't think it can be done.Bullshit. Sunshine, lollipops, good feelings, and change will clearly make the debt disappear.
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said by pnh102:

Democrats proposing a tax cut? It must be an election year.
It's not a tax "cut", it's a "promise" to not raise taxes.Point.
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This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20781090 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:53:49 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20781001 said by Mike:

That's because the president won't pass anything and nothing can get done. LOL you really believe the Democrats will balance the budget?

Even B. Hussein Obama admits he doesn't think it can be done.

»www.suntimes.com/news/politics/o···307.stng

Yes we can?
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This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20781001 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:30:34 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780956
There is still another (R)oad block, at least for a little while longer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780956 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:22:42 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780895 said by quatrix:

No, Democrats have to preserve taxes to pay for government spending.Well I am glad someone is putting the needs of the government ahead of everyone else.
said by quatrix:

Republicans spend even more but pay for it with imaginary money (which our future generations will be responsible for).
You're right. I remember after the Democrat party took over Congress it immediately balanced the budget and started paying down the national debt that the Bush regime ran up. I am so glad the country is now fiscally solvent.
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This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780895 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:07:36 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780869 said by pnh102:

Democrats proposing a tax cut? It must be an election year.
It's not a tax "cut", it's a "promise" to not raise taxes.

Of course, should they decide that new taxes are needed, the tax bill will simply have to contain a clause nullifying this act... a useless bill that sounds good? Must be an election year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780869 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:01:44 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780854 said by pnh102:

Democrats proposing a tax cut? It must be an election year.No, Democrats have to preserve taxes to pay for government spending. Republicans spend even more but pay for it with imaginary money (which our future generations will be responsible for).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780854 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:58:59 EDT Re: Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780833
We'll see how far this gets. With Congressional approval ratings in the single digits, by far the lowest in history, they may be motivated to do something other than sit on their hands.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Impressive-20780833 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:52:12 EDT Impressive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Impressive-20780804 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Impressive-20780804 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:46:45 EDT