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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | Re: Good technically it's 1080p > 480p upscaled.
Nonetheless, it's still way overpriced. I'm not paying $29.99 for a movie. | |
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Kompressor
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join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | Re: Good Sony Blu-Ray sucks ass.
And what's with this 60GB crap? Why isn't there a 320GB option? | |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| Why drive a Cadillac when a Yugo is just as good? If you don't see a difference then you're just not being honest.
Hell, people here gnash and wail about ATM and PPPoE. That's not as big as the performance and bandwidth difference between 480i and 1080p. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| Re: Good I suppose you buy new DVDs for $8.00?
When I see new DVDs at $22.95 and Blu-rays at $27.95... I'll usually buy the Blu-ray.
If you think the picture difference is moderately better, maybe time to get a better display.
Native 1080p picture, several choices of audio - including PCM(that's uncompressed).
As opposed to a soft, upconverted DVD picture with severely compressed audio - knock yourself out!
Now, if I see a movie that I don't have yet in the $5.99 bin, I'll probably snag it and forego the Blu-ray.
For that priceless look on someone's face when they see what their whoop-ass HDTV can actually do compared to cable HD/Dish HD/upconverted DVD, I'll pick Blu-ray every time! 
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| Re: Good said by Dogfather  :Yes, I often get new release DVD's for $10 and never pay more than $15. No way in hell I'll ever waste $28-$35 on a typical BR disc. Even BR sales prices are typically 50% higher than DVD. Ok, where?
I see on Amazon BDs sell for $24 or less.
I see new releases of DVDs sell at CC for $22.95 and the same BD sell for $27.99 - I'll choose the BD!
Here, some interesting screen captures:
»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···t=811102
Yeah, so close...
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
| Re: Good I agree completely; BR on an LG multidrive (BR and HD-DVD) in my media center PC with a carefully tweaked and calibrated DLP projector on a ten foot screen and I have a smokin' home theatre that looks better than the 35mm I run as a part-time projectionist (been a union operator for twenty-six years).
I recently got the first season of Weeds, Life of Brian and Pan's Labrynth for $10 each at Amazon. And there are great prices here: »www.deepdiscount.com
So yeah, I agree with dadkins that there are LOTS of places to get BR pretty cheaply.
That doesn't mean I expect folks to run out and buy into the format, only that things aren't always as pricey as may first appear.  | |
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join:2003-05-30
Greendale, WI
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| Re: Good Hey, thanks for the link. I see they have Stargate on BD for only $15. LOL. That DVD is the first one I ever got (freebie with the player back in 1999 I think) and it's a flipper - time to replace that with glorious 1080p and DTS HD audio!!!
I say if it looks better to you and you have the money I see no reason not to go with BD. If it doesn't look good or you can't afford the extra 30%-40% stick with DVD. | |
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Madness
Like a flea circus at a dog show.
join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA
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1 edit | I've heard plenty of of times that BR isn't really worth it unless one has a >50" 1080p display. I'm sorry to say that I don't know anyone who has one nor who is planning on buying one. ~$400 for a player has to be fixed, also. And don't get me started on the "Profile" BS. I'm one who's perfectly happy w/ my existing DVD collection (which I really don't want to replace, AGAIN!) & my $60 upscaling Philips player from WallyWorld.
Addendum: Let's not forget that it'll probably take YEARS for back-catalogs, Indy, obscure, etc., material to ever make it to BR (I'm not always just wanting the big blockbusters from the last few years!). Hell, it took that long just to get some of it on DVD & we're still waiting for some (or in my case, sometimes buying a foreign-region DVD). | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Good Agreed!
I have no intentions of replacing all my DVDs.
For the new movies, I will likely buy the Blu-ray version.
I will also pick-n-choose as to when I buy them... like on sale! BOGOs.
Special Offers.
Spending a whopping $5 more for the BD version and getting way better PQ and AQ *IS* worth it - to me at least.
No reason for some people to try and misinform people because they cannot see how much better Blu-ray is in PQ and AQ.
Some of us can see and hear the difference.
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Anonymous
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1 edit | said by dadkins :I suppose you buy new DVDs for $8.00? When I see new DVDs at $22.95 and Blu-rays at $27.95... I'll usually buy the Blu-ray. If you think the picture difference is moderately better, maybe time to get a better display. Native 1080p picture, several choices of audio - including PCM(that's uncompressed). As opposed to a soft, upconverted DVD picture with severely compressed audio - knock yourself out! Now, if I see a movie that I don't have yet in the $5.99 bin, I'll probably snag it and forego the Blu-ray. For that priceless look on someone's face when they see what their whoop-ass HDTV can actually do compared to cable HD/Dish HD/upconverted DVD, I'll pick Blu-ray every time! un some movies just look like crap
MY display is Full HD 1920x1080P
there is an LOT of white noise similar like watching snowy analog tv
DVD does not have this issuse
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
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| said by Dogfather :No thanks. Blu-Ray blows. It's overpriced, the media is a rip-off and after all that the quality only moderately better than upscaled DVD. If the movies were $10 and the drive was $40, maybe. IMO it's better for MS to get the price of the console down as cheap as possible or God forbid improve the mfg quality. You're fucking joking me, right?
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Good Sorry if I don't see $28 BR movies and expensive hardware as the great deal you do. | |
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join:2003-10-21
Edmonton, AB
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| Re: Good Depends really.. what if you keep buying dvd's now and decide to switch to bluray when its cheaper? you might end up buying your titles twice anyways.
For new DVD's, there about 5 bones cheaper that blurays (maybe 10 cheaper if your comparing to a day of release blowout dvd sale).
Blu-ray's go on sale too, DVD's that would be in a walmart bargain bin for 8.99 go on sale on amazon for 14.99 on bluray.
It's a bit more.. but I think blu-ray (hd-dvd too) looked a fair bit better on my 42inch lcd than a dvd. | |
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johnny_t
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join:2004-03-21
Palo Alto, CA
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| Re: Good said by Dogfather :Sure, I'd buy a $10-$15 BRD which is my point if you read the thread. $28 which most discs are is a rip-off IMO. I simply refuse to pay $28+ for a movie I don't give a crap what media it's on. I won't pay $22 for a DVD either. And there is nothing wrong with my math. For example in today's BB ad I'm looking at titles like Rambo and Jumper, fairly recent releases both types on sale...$15 DVD, $23 BRD and that is obviously a hair more than 50% higher and are very typical of sales around here and a good price for BRD. And even in your own example "The Bank Job" CC has DVD for $15 while BRD is nearly 2X that at $28 and that's exactly my complaint. Typical movies on BRD are WAY more dough than DVD and I personally don't think BR is worth the price difference. » entertainment.circuitcity.com/Mo···23610DVDAnd just as you do with your BRD...I'll rip my own digital copy for free...no point in paying 30% more for a DRMed up digital copy. OK I will agree with you on the price difference between normal DVD & BRD, however when you say ''marginally'' better PQ that is a troll (IMO). 720x480 is DVD, 1920x1080 is BRD, due to math. The VHS to DVD jump was smaller yet I'm willing to bet you have no problem with VHS quality either. SVHS- 480 lines, DVD-520 lines, BRD 1080 lines. Perhaps me & most people have bald eagle vison but.. I noticed a helluva difference between the quality & clarity between S-VHS & DVD. The other arguement would be upscaled DVD, still doesn't compare with a good coded BRD. | |
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
| Re: Good Ah, you kids nowadays got it easy! I cut my teeth with laseridscs back in the early 80's and I remember paying up to $200 for a box set of the first five Star Trek films, $149 for the box set of JFK and $99 each for Alien, Aliens, etc.
Of course, back then our players were steam-powered and we were always arguing over which type of coal burned hotter and gave you a sharper picture, but hey... | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Good Hey, I still use my DVL-919. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by Dogfather :1080P upscaled DVD is also 1920x1080. And the VHS to DVD jump wasn't all about resolution but also the switch from analog to digital. But that 4mbps video on DVD vs 35mbps encode on blu ray. i'll take the blu ray if its a movie i really like.
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
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| Re: Good said by dvd536 :said by Dogfather :1080P upscaled DVD is also 1920x1080. And the VHS to DVD jump wasn't all about resolution but also the switch from analog to digital. But that 4mbps video on DVD vs 35mbps encode on blu ray. i'll take the blu ray if its a movie i really like. I thought you would have chosen the DVD since you frigging named yourself after it! 
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo | Re: Good If the picture quality of a Blu-Ray movie looks significantly worse than the upscaled DVD you compare, then you have something that needs serious adjustment/tweaking or you have a piece of incompatible equipment somewhere in there. | |
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Tha ReAlEsT
The King Is Back, Where My Crown At?
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join:2002-09-28
the past
1 edit | I have a couple of new blue ray movies in my amazon shopping cart and the most expensive is $19. I dont have any BR movies but they seem to be pretty decent in price(the dvd version is the same price by the way). O yea i have spider man 3 with the ps3 but never watched it.
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join:2002-12-04
Strongsville, OH
clubs: | That's the beauty of the internet. Anyone can spread FUD. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Good Or make unsubstantiated claims of someone spreading FUD. | |
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Phoenix2088
join:2002-12-04
Strongsville, OH
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| Re: Good A "moderate" difference between Blu-ray and DVD? If you mean feature wise then yes you are correct. But if you are talking about picture quality, then I urge you to take an eye exam. The money maybe a deterrent but don't let that cloud your judgment. There is more than a "moderate" difference between the picture quality of pre-recorded 1080p HD on Blu-Ray and 480p DVD. | |
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ReVeLaTeD
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join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA
| Re: Good I'm going to refer back to HD-DVD, which had the one movie that Blu-Ray has yet to surpass in overall quality: King Kong.
That is a night/day difference over other sources: DVD, even the theater version can't hold a candle to the HD-DVD version. I think the problem, and what you're referring to, is that the movie publishers aren't giving their all to the Blu-ray side of things; they're really half-assing the releases of the HD movies, which hurts it IMO. Take for example, The Ultimate Matrix Collection/Complete Matrix Trilogy...the quality is better than DVD but not by too far. Also Animatrix is plain Jane DVD; there's really no point to getting the Ulitmate collection over the Trilogy. | |
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