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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1590874"><b>DarkLogix</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  albie81 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  CUBS_FAN <A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Shhhh.. don't want to jinx yourself :D<br> </div>strange you mention it.... my wife just IM'd this not 5 minutes ago:<br><br>[13:17] albie_04: hey babe<br>[13:18] Hunny Bunny: internet is teh suk<br>[13:18] Hunny Bunny: and i am using your language so that you can take me seriously<br> </div>see you jinxed yourself]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CUBS_FAN <A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Shhhh.. don't want to jinx yourself :D<br> </div>strange you mention it.... my wife just IM'd this not 5 minutes ago:<br><br>[13:17] albie_04: hey babe<br>[13:18] Hunny Bunny: internet is teh suk<br>[13:18] Hunny Bunny: and i am using your language so that you can take me seriously<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:18:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Well......<br><br>so far so good! it's been strong for a month and a half now!<br><br>Might be safe to say the problem is resolved?<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:22:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CUBS_FAN <A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Perhaps they sent a warning to a bandwidth hog in your neighborhood and it took him 20 days to get enough courage to reopen the bandwidth on his channels?<br> </div>I'm probably the highest bandwidth user in my community. I use it, my wife uses it, my oldest son, and my brother-in-law.<br><br>There is a LOT of FTP activity, up & down.... streaming video, online gaming, Skype/TS... my connection gets used pretty heavily.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:41:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : Perhaps they sent a warning to a bandwidth hog in your neighborhood and it took him 20 days to get enough courage to reopen the bandwidth on his channels?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : crap! Hopefully they know what they did that finally fixed it and can go do that again.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CUBS_FAN <A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>20 days later?  :o<br> </div>they must have fixed it with generic-branded duct-tape.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:35:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : 20 days later?  :o]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Problem is back.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : welll......<br><br>so far so good.......<br><br>giving it a month before I jump up and down for joy...<br><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : hahahah  -- Give up hope, Albie, you'll feel a lot better.   :D  :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  AntiSocial <A HREF="/useremail/u/1507328"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Read the entire thread, word for word. Its somewhat inspired me.... Thank you good sir.<br> </div>Then I guess it's all worth it somehow.<br><br><b>"Sometimes I feel that my life's purpose is to serve as a warning to others."</b>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1507328"><b>AntiSocial</b></A> : Read the entire thread, word for word. Its somewhat inspired me as I might make the switch back to the horrible AT&T DSL, I'll give 'em hell should I come back to poor quality. Thank you good sir.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : My fingers are crossed!  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : UPDATE:<br><br>Line Crews have been working the last several days in my neighborhood.<br><br>I received a phone call today from my contact at Exec. Support who informed me that the Maintenance Manager told her that they have fixed the noise problem, and that my issue should be resolved. She also informed me that they were issuing a 2-month credit, and locking my HSI rate at $29.95/month.<br><br>I have not had much time to investigate whether or not the problem is actually fixed, but I will update in a few days after I've had a change to monitor things.<br><br>*crosses fingers*<br><br>FWIW: After I really started making a stink, and posting here, and writing letters to local news agencies etc., Comcast really did start bending over backwards to try to resolve this problem.<br><br>While that's great, it really is a shame that you have to resort to the tactics and time/effort that I have spent/utilized in trying to get this issue resolved. <br><br>I suppose the days of real, quality customer support are long-gone, and the only way to get noticed is to be a thorn in their side. Which is a real shame, because I really hate having to be the bad guy.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:20:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : The technical explanation is suspicious -- perhaps just to be placating, but the escalation to the higher level is a good sign.  <br><br>"comcast is considering" sounds like it might take some time.  I wouldn't be inclined to be patient.  With Comcast, talk is cheap.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  albie81 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>UPDATE:<br><br>and could quite possibly be a result of an overloaded system in my area, as homes are continuing to be built and are all tapping into the same loop. </div>What that guy told you is a load of B.S  :mad:  For 7 months I had experienced high latency 3 to 4 times a week. I had another separate line to my house installed, replaced the modem and still had problems. After a local comcast tech saw my thread here on DSLREPORTS.COM he <b>checked my line and from a <u>REMOTE</u> location found my connection to be saturated or overloaded due to the amount of customers signing up the <i> Triple Play Promo</i>.</b> Ever since the tech told me that "another virtual down stream carrier was added to the node or CMTS which diverts traffic and expands my bandwidth", my connection is fine. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:03:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : UPDATE:<br><br>I had a long phone conversation this morning with the Engineering Supervisor at Comcast.<br><br>He was very helpful, and listened to everything I had to say.<br><br>They have apparently removed me from the Service Tech pool, as everyone involved now agrees that the problem is best suited to be resolved by Line/Maintenance. <br><br>He assured me that they will be/are working daily to track down the source of noise being introduced to the system, and could quite possibly be a result of an overloaded system in my area, as homes are continuing to be built and are all tapping into the same loop. He said that comcast is considering some "makeshift upgrades" in my immediate area, due to these issues. (Directly citing the residence about 1/4 mile from me, which is the home of the quarterback of our area's NFL team, who also experiences similar problems to my own.)<br><br>Will update again soon. He gave me his cell number, and said that we will touch base again on Monday.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Today, after having several attempts to contact Exec. Support go unanswered... I sent this to my County's newspaper:<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by EMAIL TO COUNTY TIMES :</small><br><br>To Whom It May Concern,<br><br>I am not sure if I am directing this to the appropriate place or not, so please bear with me, as I have a tendency to be long-winded. (That&#146;s an understatement at best.)<br><br>For the past 3 and a half years, I have been fighting a seemingly unending battle with Comcast over quality of service issues, as it directly relates to television and internet services. I am entirely at my wit&#146;s end, and do not have the slightest idea where to turn to get some help in my struggle. (I know I am not alone in my quest to simply receive the service that I have gladly paid for, and haven&#146;t yet received.) To make a VERY long story, VERY short, for whatever technical reasons, the broadband signal provided by Comcast within my development (I am unsure of how many residences are affected) is dirty. It had a major impact on television services which I eventually dropped for satellite. I had VoIP phone service which I had to cancel, as it was unusable. As it stands now, I can BARELY use my internet connection, because of the dirty signal. I cannot online game, chat, upload photos and many times cannot pay bills, etc. It&#146;s especially heart-warming to sit at the computer with my 5yr old son, who is trying to play computer games on sites like Nick Jr. and Noggin, and have him ask me why the computer&#146;s not working and &#147;daddy&#148; has to tell him that he can&#146;t fix it.<br><br>Access to the internet in our society is no longer a LUXURY. It&#146;s a function of LIFE. A function which I am effectively robbed of by Comcast&#146;s apparent ineptitude to resolve an ongoing, documented hardware issue. And to make matters better, I have no other viable, equal broadband option available to me.<br><br>Instead of continuing to be extraordinarily long-winded, I will simply direct you to a thread, which has documented in great detail, both conversationally, and technically, the ongoing problem, which was posted on the internet community &#147;BroadBandReports.com&#148; which, whether you know or not, is a large, well-respected online tech community, that I have been a member of since 2005. This is actually not the first time I have posted on this site regarding my troubles, but it has received the most attention/feedback. This post originated on July 14th 2008, as of right now, it has been viewed by unique visitors 2,470 times. That is a lot of public interest in my own small, personal problem.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r20789537-3-Years-of-Upload-Dropping-Severe-Packet-Loss">3 Years of Upload Dropping - Severe Packet Loss</A><br><br>I have been informed by a member of that site, whose opinion I respect very much, that best course of action in my current situation, is to contact local news sources and local &#147;Consumer Reports.&#148; I don&#146;t have the slightest idea where to begin, and if any local agencies or news sources really even care, or who/where is the most appropriate place to start.<br><br>I would appreciate ANY input that you or colleagues have to offer, and I apologize again if this is directed to the wrong place/individuals, but I am at a total loss. </div>We will see I suppose.......<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jammmin <A HREF="/useremail/u/263330"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>I had comcast for about 7 years with constant problems that were never totally resolved. I spend many hours over the phone with little resolution. </div>Well.... I lost track a LONG time ago, of how much time I have spent dealing with this problem. So, let's be conservative, and say, forget the last three years, and just focus on the last 4 months, when I have been pushing VERY hard to get this resolved...<br><br>In 4 months, I have probably averaged 2hrs a week in dealing with techs, support, emails, phone calls, detailing everything in this thread. <i>(That is a conservative average, I am sure it's more, but I'll go on the low-end to be safe.)</i><br><br>Now, in my professional environment: I work for an Engineering firm, in which my time is billed at $90/hr. So... if we equate that, saying that my time is worth that much, to the amount of time I have <b>WASTED</b> dealing with Comcast.... <b><i>2hrs/week for 4 months = $2,880</i></b><br><br>That time/money value is equivalent to approximately <b>FOUR AND A HALF YEARS</b> of Comcast HSI service invoices.... in the space of four months time... which is especially ironic now... since I received a service bill in the mail yesterday.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jammmin <A HREF="/useremail/u/263330"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>I am 100% happier now with FIOS</div>If it were available in my area, I would have switched years ago.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : FIOS is impossible in the Chicago area.. Perhaps whenever U-Verse arrives and I decide to switch to them am I able to sing a happy song like you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/263330"><b>jammmin</b></A> : I had comcast for about 7 years with constant problems that were never totally resolved. I spend many hours over the phone with little resolution.<br><br>When FIOS came to my area recently, I switched in a heatbeat and all my 7 years of internet problems were gone immediately.<br><br>I am 100% happier now with FIOS internet<br><br>1. No throttling<br>2. No congestion<br>3. Faster internet<br>4. No downtime<br>5. No caps<br><br>Its simple folks.  Switch to FIOS if you can get it. The years of Comcast being my only internet provider gave me heartburn]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : While I understood only about 25% of that.... I know for a fact that the people I am working with in Executive Support are following this thread, (or were at some point) so maybe some of this info will get passed along to the techs? (without me having to murder the technical details by trying to recite it with my limited knowledge.)<br><br>I can't thank everyone who's provided input and support in this thread enough. <br><br>Hopefully Comcast will be able to resolve this issue soon.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : <IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/check1.gif">This is the kind of stuff that makes DSLReports great!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/790438"><b>TechnoScott</b></A> : I have been wrong before... but in this instance I think I am correct.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/cable/cmts/ubr10012/configuration/guide/u10k_a.html" >www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/cable/c&middot;&middot;&middot;k_a.html</A><br><br>The CMTS allocates two basic types of contention slots on the upstream:<br><br>&#149;Initial ranging slots that CMs use during their initialization phase to join the network. When the CMTS receives an initial ranging request from a CM using this kind of slot, the CMTS subsequently polls the CM, and other operational CMs, in unicast, noncontention station maintenance slots. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  TechnoScott <A HREF="/useremail/u/790438"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> One more thing to note... T3 timeouts occur when a modem is registered, T4 timeouts occur when modems are trying to synchronize.<br><br>A really great descriptive technical document on this subject can be found at &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk86/tk89/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094eb1.shtml" >www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk86/tk&middot;&middot;&middot;b1.shtml</A><br><br> </div>I think you have the T3's and T4's mixed up, per that website:<br><br>T3<br> 200 msec<br> The time to wait for a RNG-RSP during ranging.<br> <br>T4<br> 30 sec<br> The time to wait for a station maintenance interval to perform station maintenance ranging.<br> <br><br>So T3s would occur during the ranging process while the T4s would occur while the modem is sync'd.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/790438"><b>TechnoScott</b></A> : OK, I'm going to explain the T3 phenomenon in real English with phrases everyone can understand in an effort to help the original poster get this problem solved.  Here goes:<br><br>Modems are in a sense, insecure devices.  If you think about forward and reverse path stability, the forward path (going to the modems) is very robust.  Even in the worst of the worst cable systems, average sweep techs can keep 256QAM channels running.  Above 50MHz life is usually good in the cable system unless there is rampant ingress or damaged cable.  There are obviously more problems out there than that but for the most part, with error correction, 256QAM is easy to maintain.<br><br>Now, onto the return path.  There are many different issues that go on in the return path.  Many of those issues are VERY different than what happens in the forward spectrum and many are VERY difficult to find.  The way I train and teach technicians is to read between the lines when looking at return path.  Packet testing, modem logs, and spectrum analyzers in the return path (or Pathtrak if you have it) are crucial.  Some of us are using QAM generators in the return to look at return path quality too.<br><br>Return path problems can be broken down into a few different categories.<br><br>1. Return noise: noise that comes from homes, noise that comes from plant, and noise that comes from both.  I'm talking about crud from tv's, splitters, and inside wiring.  That stuff comes from homes.  The noise that comes from the plant comes in the form of CPD, impulse noise, and another condition we refer to as elevated noise floor.  Noise is a major issue as it causes lower signal to noise ratios in the return as well as bit errors.  Elevated noise floor and CPD is nearly always a connector issue.  It can be a severe kink in the cable but it is usually caused by corrosion, loose fittings, and or loose seizing mechanisms.<br><br>2. Attenuation problems and unity gain: cable systems must have their unity gain set in the return.  This means that every amplifier station from the last active all the way into the node (in the reverse) needs to be set so that the amplification is the same at every station based on cable distance and loss.  This keeps modem transmit powers at a predictable level and it also minimizes distortions.  This is a crucial part of return setup as it really makes a huge impact on carrier to noise in the return path.<br><br>3. Timeouts and bit errors: Now we are getting into the meat of the T3 timeout issue.  I will explain what a T3 timeout is in a minute but for now I need to go into the idea of bit errors in the return path.  You can look at noise all you want but you can have a node that has NO noise in the return that has constant upstream problems.  Not every impairment in the return is related to noise.  Some are but some aren't.  Many maintenance techs only look at noise and unity gain in the return but there is MUCH more to look at.  If modems are sending traffic back to the CMTS in the return and something happens that causes the data to be lost, you may never get to see that... sometimes return impairments occur that cannot be seen.  If the RF never makes it past an amp then you can't see it in a spectrum analyzer and the CMTS can't see it either.  This is what I mean by reading between the lines.  T3 error messages are one way to determine that this is happening.  Especially when nothing else can be found.<br><br>Now that I have gone through all of that let me explain the T3 timeout to you and explain the repair procedures.<br><br>Modems are constantly being talked to by the CMTS.  As I explained earlier, the forward traffic is very robust.  Return traffic is not so robust.  So, here goes.  This is what the station maintenance messages roughly look like.<br><br>CMTS talks to modem and basically says, "hey, hows it going?"<br><br>Modem knows this.  Modem attempts to reply, "pretty good"<br><br>CMTS THEN SAYS BACK TO THE MODEM, "OK, cool, talk to you later."<br><br>Modem then continues about its business.  At this time, transmit power is being adjusted in .25 dBmV increments and some other maintenance actions are occurring.  <br><br>IF the modem is interrogated, and replies BUT the CMTS does not reply back with the, "OK, cool, talk to you later." message then the modem says, "hey, that's wierd, the CMTS didn't hear me."  AT THAT TIME THE MODEM LOGS A T3 EVENT in the modem log.  If the modem goes 16 station message periods with a T3 timeout occurring then the modem WILL reset itself in hopes of finding a better upstream channel.  I have seen this happen in virtually split nodes.<br><br>According to Cisco, the period of time (T3) is equal to 200ms.  In computing, 200ms is A LONG TIME.  An earlier poster said that nah, nothing's wrong with a few T3 timeouts.  I would agree that 1 or 2 in a log is ok.  A log full of them is a major problem.<br><br>Now, as for fixing them?  You have to basically physically touch and or inspect every fitting from the affected modem back to the nearest amplifier and if that isn't enough, in some systems it may mean inspecting and tightening every fitting all the way back to the node.  Obvious issues like noise and unity gain problems are the first place to start but tight connectors are key.  When you have a 100% impedance matched, tight plant with minimal noise then you simply won't have any T3 timeouts.  One more thing to note... T3 timeouts occur when a modem is registered, T4 timeouts occur when modems are trying to synchronize.<br><br>A really great descriptive technical document on this subject can be found at &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk86/tk89/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094eb1.shtml" >www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk86/tk&middot;&middot;&middot;b1.shtml</A><br><br>Hope this is clearer than mud for you all.<br><br>Scott ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : UPDATE:<br><br>On Monday, Sept. 22nd a tech came out to do some investigation. (He brought another tech with him, and a 3rd tech showed up shortly after they arrived with a bucket-truck.)<br><br>I explained to the tech that the problem seems to be worse when the weather is bad. (very cold, or rainy, or snowing, or windy etc.) He said that was good information to have, because that could indicate that there is a cracked/damaged connection somewhere in the loop which is being affected by weather, and introducing noise to the system. The tech also said that he had been monitoring my connection, and has seen my problem happen, when my upload drops out, because the Signal-to-Noise ratio goes outside of operating limits.<br><br>The techs started at one end of my street and inspected each "ped"... The tech came back and said that he marked several nodes for repair the following day by line-crews, and they replaced a connection on an over-head line which is at the end of my street (which is past my connection point, but he said noise introduced there can loop through the system.)<br><br>The line-crew was scheduled for yesterday (Tuesday, Sept. 23rd) and I am assuming that they were out to fix was marked by the techs the previous day.<br><br>TODAY: the problem is still cranking strong. Connection is dropping pretty badly.<br><br>Left a voicemail for my contact at Exec. Support, who is out of the office today, so I assume I will hear from her tomorrow.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : After reading all of this, I have no reason to think that the problem is not RF related. You say that connectivity is intermittent, and that when connectivity is OK, downstream speed is good, upstream is poor, and this with multiple cable modems. If you have disconnected the incoming cable at the house, connected the cable modem directly to that, and still had the problem, everything from that point inward has been eliminated.<br><br>Thinking about RF - in my case, my cable modem receives downstream at 723MHz, which will be far less susceptible to ingress, loss and other bad things than the return signal from the modem at 31MHz. Smaller packets such as ACKs returned during a download probably have better luck making it to the other end of your cable. If it would be me, I would want to know if there are any serious sources of noise (or legitimate RF) nearby causing ingress distress on your (I make the assumption that your return signal lies between ~25MHz and ~50MHz, check modem status page to see) 31MHz signal from your cable modem. Do you have any CBers (27MHz) nearby who may be running illegal amplification? Perhaps an old paging system or other transmitter (Fire, EMT, etc.) or harmonics from an HF ham operator? Or maybe, plain old noise that is loud enough at 31MHz to cause issues to you. As a ham operator, I have receivers that can help me pinpoint sources of noise. I realize that this may not be practical for you, but I'm just throwing ideas out there, so maybe you can come up with anything at all. My cable modem status page tells me what the basic downstream and upstream frequencies are. <br><br>Frequency &#9; 723000000 Hz Locked<br>Signal to Noise Ratio &#9;35 dB<br>Power Level &#9;-13 dBmV<br>The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading<br><br>Upstream &#9;Value<br>Channel ID &#9;2<br>Frequency &#9;31000000 Hz Ranged<br>Power Level &#9;52 dBmV <br><br>Your signal levels are reasonable, but the *quality* of your return signal is apparently very poor. Without actually being where you are, I would bet $$$ that your problem will end up being caused by a strong source of noise (or legitimate RF) from ~25MHz to ~50MHz or so, and/or less than optimal cabling.<br><br>In any case, these are just my thoughts, and good luck getting things fixed.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  funchords <A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Why the "critical" label? <br> </div>These are more akin to debug messages as I understand it.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2669.html" >www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2669.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Yes, google is good. It's a quote I pulled from an old thread here but I have seen pretty much the same thing in Cisco's documentation.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by netcool :</small><br><br>Explanation: The cable modem sent a Ranging Request (RNG-REQ) message as part of its initial ranging process, but did not receive a Ranging Response (RNG-RSP) message from the CMTS within the T3 timeout period. The cable modem will adjust its upstream transmit power and send another RNG-REQ message, up to the maximum of 16 successive attempts, or until it reaches the maximum transmit power level. This error message is DOCSIS event message is R02.0, Ranging Request.<br><br>Recommended Action: No action is needed because it is normal for a cable system to occasionally lose MAC-layer messages, especially when multiple cable modems transmit RNG-REQ messages at the same time.<br> </div>I've seen this "quote" before....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : Just to keep you on the edge of yer seat or another scare tactic  :D<br><br>Well explained Netcool, makes me less worried about what unusual things I see in my modem logs.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : Why the "critical" label? ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Explanation: The cable modem sent a Ranging Request (RNG-REQ) message as part of its initial ranging process, but did not receive a Ranging Response (RNG-RSP) message from the CMTS within the T3 timeout period. The cable modem will adjust its upstream transmit power and send another RNG-REQ message, up to the maximum of 16 successive attempts, or until it reaches the maximum transmit power level. This error message is DOCSIS event message is R02.0, Ranging Request.<br><br>Recommended Action: No action is needed because it is normal for a cable system to occasionally lose MAC-layer messages, especially when multiple cable modems transmit RNG-REQ messages at the same time.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/455626"><b>sortofageek</b></A> : No, it is the Linksys BEFCMU10 Ver. 4.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : Is that a Moto Surfboard sorto ?<br><br>They have a history of being quite the hypochondriac concerning the error entries that they log..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/455626"><b>sortofageek</b></A> : Interesting.  I have always seen the T3 timeout messages in my log, but haven't actually been able to associate them with any issues.<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>      <br>  Time Priority Description <br> 2008-09-22 15:59:55   critical   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing  <br> 2008-09-04 00:37:47   critical   No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out  <br> 2008-09-04 00:37:35   critical   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing  <br> 2008-09-04 00:37:33   critical   No UCD's Received - Timeout  <br> 2008-09-04 00:29:40   critical   Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 timeout  <br> 2008-07-27 13:55:22   critical   Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 timeout  <br> 2008-07-27 13:54:54   critical   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to receive MAC SYNC frame within time-out period  <br> 2008-07-03 10:31:51   critical   No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out  <br> 2008-07-03 09:26:07   critical   Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 timeout  <br> 2008-07-03 09:25:39   critical   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to receive MAC SYNC frame within time-out period  <br><hr></blockquote> <br><br>What problems do they cause and what is done to fix them?  I'm obviously not asking for a detailed step by step how to ... just wondering, in general, what a tech needs to address to fix a T3 timeout.  New cables?  New modem?  New splitters? Something beyond the drop to the house?<br><small>--<br><A HREF="/faq/2913">Join Team Helix</a> * I am praying for these <A HREF="/faq/15254"> friends </a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/790438"><b>TechnoScott</b></A> : It's sad to hear the CT4s and 5s can't fix T3 timeouts.... very sad indeed.  If you lived in my service area this would have been fixed three years ago.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  rra <A HREF="/useremail/u/1582680"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Cost, speed, equipment?  <br> </div>all of the above.<br><br>a WISP is going to be costly, as I'm on T-Mobile who currently doesn't have very good data plans (unless they've changed and I am unaware.) The best data plans I've seen in the past are on Sprint services, and it would cost me too much money to either sign up for new service, or drop my current wireless service, pay the fees and start a new cell/data plan. Besides, I am sharing my internet connection with approximately six PC's in my house, and bandwidth would become an issue.<br><br>satellite... where to begin... monthly service cost is very high, especially for decent bandwidth, coupled with the high equipment cost.<br><br>the most desirable scenario would be if Comcast would fix their hardware, seconded by Verizon getting off their butts and rolling fios.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1582680"><b>rra</b></A> : Cost, speed, equipment?  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  rra <A HREF="/useremail/u/1582680"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>wow.  How much is it for another isp?  I applaude your diligence but at some point you just have to stop banging your head against the wall.  Money talks.  <br> </div>my only other choices are satellite or wisp... neither of which are really viable.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1582680"><b>rra</b></A> : wow.  How much is it for another isp?  I applaude your diligence but at some point you just have to stop banging your head against the wall.  Money talks.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : I left a message for Exec. Support last night, and the rep called me back this morning.<br><br>She is going to discuss my downage-logs from yesterday with someone else in their office, and have him check the "node-health" and will get back to me.<br><br>For what it's worth, yesterday was release for Warhammer Online, so there was some considerable online gaming time on my connection yesterday, and the logs I listed above, are from when the connection to the game server was lost. <i>(now, to verify that it was not just the game server, a Ventrilo server was also active, and was dropping in sych with the warhammer game server. So it was service loss across the board, not just a faulty game-day-release server for a new game.)</i><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  beerbum <A HREF="/useremail/u/156851"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Laser2100 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1016172"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>3) The DS-3 on your grid is running dirty. The DS-3 is basically a copper cable that runs from your street box to their central office (CO).  </div>not quite.. from the house to the node is copper.. from the node back to the head-end (to use your term, CO) is fiber..<br> </div>Switch, DS3, and C.O. are typically telco terms.<br><small>--<br>Let us never forget 9/11.....</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <i>...continued log...</i><br><br>2:46pm EST<br>3:01pm EST<br>3:09pm EST<br>3:59pm EST<br>4:01pm EST<br>4:03pm EST<br><br><i>... to be continued.... </i><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  weez1979 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1476422"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think it's your computer.  Have you tried using a mac?<br> </div>Weez, I love you. :p<br><br>Needed a little laugh here.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1476422"><b>weez1979</b></A> : I think it's your computer.  Have you tried using a mac?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Laser2100 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1016172"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Wow... After reading your four page thread, I have to say that I'm in disbelief. Kicking the modem? You gotta be kidding me. </div>Not kidding... I honestly wish I was.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Laser2100 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1016172"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>There's really no excuse for the poor support that you've been receiving from Comcast. If possible, I would try to get in-touch with a 3rd level (or higher) technician, and ask them to take a look at it. </div>Well, the "quality" of support I have received from Comcast BEFORE I started this thread, compared to AFTER this thread, is like night-and-day. If you read back a ways, you will note that this thread combined with emails, has resulted in Comcast Exec. Support employees registering on BBR to address Comcast issues.<br><br>Anyway, I have been told three times now by different people that "This is the highest tech support goes..."<br><br>First- it was a little over a year ago, when I was told by a Supervisor Tech that he was as high as you can go with support.<br><br>Second- this was recently, I was assigned a Quality Control Tech who told me "I will be the last tech you ever see, I am as high as they go." I saw him one time.<br><br>Third- a member of Exec. Support told me on the phone last week, that they were escalating me to "1.5" support, which is as high as it goes.<br><br><b>If it weren't for the fact, that in year 2008, the world revolves around computers and the internet... this would be downright comical....</b>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : I received a phone call from Exec. Support today.<br><br>They have been monitoring my connection since the techs were out to my house on Friday Sept 12th. And she told me that specifically on Monday Sept. 15th they saw problems at the node.<br><br>So on Tuesday Sept 16th, she said they sent a line crew out, and they replaced <b>"three drops at the node" </b>because they were causing <b>"intermittent noise issues."</b><br><br>She asked if I was still having problems, which I am, even after Tuesday when the line crew was supposedly out.<br><br>She said they would continue to monitor my connection, and that I should do the same... (don't worry, I will)<br><br>I did mention to her that when the problem happens, a log entry is present in the modem which reads <b>"No Ranging Response Received - T3 TimeOut" </b>which she said she would pass along to another tech.<br><br>For what it's worth, thus far today since I have started keeping a log, the service has dropped at:<br><br>12:33pm EST<br>12:48pm EST<br>1:13pm EST<br>2:00pm EST<br>2:10pm EST<br><br><i>....to be continued.....</i><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156851"><b>beerbum</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Laser2100 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1016172"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>3) The DS-3 on your grid is running dirty. The DS-3 is basically a copper cable that runs from your street box to their central office (CO).  </div>not quite.. from the house to the node is copper.. from the node back to the head-end (to use your term, CO) is fiber..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1016172"><b>Laser2100</b></A> : Wow... After reading your four page thread, I have to say that I'm in disbelief. Kicking the modem? You gotta be kidding me.<br><br>Anyway, T3 timeouts should not be happening on a healthy cable network. Based on all of the information that you've gathered, I can think of at least three possibilities here:<br>1) The cable from your building to the box on the street is bad, or the signal is being degraded by something along the way.<br>2) There is a bad port on the switch in that box.<br>3) The DS-3 on your grid is running dirty. The DS-3 is basically a copper cable that runs from your street box to their central office (CO). They will probably need to do a bit-error rate test (BERT) to confirm this.<br><br>As for the "it would cost tens of thousands of dollars" to track down the problem and fix it -- that's simply not true. In fact, it's their job to track down those problems and fix them. There's really no excuse for the poor support that you've been receiving from Comcast. If possible, I would try to get in-touch with a 3rd level (or higher) technician, and ask them to take a look at it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : OK.<br><br>After I sent another rather frustrated email, I was finally contacted again via phone by an Exec. Support agent.<br><br>She set up another tech to come out to the house to investigate the problem... again. <br><br>The tech came out on Friday Sept. 12. (actually, it was FOUR techs)<br><br>They ran a bunch of tests, and unfortunately while they were there, the problem was not happening so they couldn't see much. <br><br>Near the end of the visit, one of the techs kicked the modem. (like, literally kicked it.. with his foot, several times, and one of the techs slammed on it with his hand) and I started getting time-outs. So they decided to replace the modem. Went out to the truck, got a Sci-Atlanta modem which would not work, so they went back out to the truck and got another Motorola Surfboard (same one as I currently have) and put that in. <br><br>One of the techs then told me, he would put another 30-day monitor on my connection.<br><br>Well... Monday and Tuesday of this week have been bad days. Last night the connection was so bad, I couldn't even get a ping started. (did all the simple things, rebooting modem/router, etc.)<br><br>Did notice in the logs for the modem, that I am seeing an event "No Ranging Response - T3 time-out"<br><br>Any idea?<br><br>Will try to contact Comcast Exec. Support again today.<br><br>I told them that my modem was not the problem. (well, after it was kicked and punched, I'm sure it's broken NOW.)<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : Well maybe a more powerful and credible system should be employed ? <br><br>It's already too late for excuses when subscribers get pissed off and cancel their subscriptions..<br><small>--<br>Let us never forget 9/11.....</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156851"><b>beerbum</b></A> : if it's an intermittent problem.. recoverable errors, enough to annoy/interrupt service but not enough to set off alarms..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  beerbum <A HREF="/useremail/u/156851"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I wonder.. during all of this, if anyone looked at the node  headend communications..<br><br>that this effects HSI and regular video is the clue..<br><br>my bet is all of the data sent from the node is not being received at the headend..<br> </div>If that is indeed the case, I wonder why all sorts of alarms wouldn't be going off at the NOC..<br><small>--<br>Let us never forget 9/11.....</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156851"><b>beerbum</b></A> : I wonder.. during all of this, if anyone looked at the node  headend communications..<br><br>that this effects HSI and regular video is the clue..<br><br>my bet is all of the data sent from the node is not being received at the headend..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : UPDATE:<br><br><b>Email to my Comcast Exec. Support Rep's Yesterday:</b><br><br>OK.<br><br>It's been a while since I have contacted Comcast about my problem, but that is mostly because the past few weeks, I have been so busy, I honestly have not been using the computer at home all that much.<br><br>BUT... this past week, and weekend, the connectivity was AWFUL. I was trying to upload a 100mb file via FTP to my server, and it was so frustrating that I eventually had to the break the file up into 10mb pieces, because the time it took to upload 100mb in one shot, was too long for my connection to stay solid, and the transfer would start all over again. By the time all was said and done, it took me almost 2 hours to upload 100mb. That is insane.<br><br>Furthermore, yesterday I was trying to download an 80mb ZIP file, from a reputable server. The transfer would start up, hovering around 300-400, which is probably a function of the site I was downloading from. (the overall speed here is not the issue anyway, it's the connectivity.) Anyway, this file, the transfer would keep dropping to zero... hang for a few minutes, then shoot back up... then back to zero... all in all, took 35 minutes to download an 80mb file... over my Cable-tier, that is entirely unacceptable. Like I said, this is NOT about SPEED though, and everything about connectivity QUALITY/STABILITY.<br><br>Like I said, I have been very busy the last few weeks, and the issues with my Comcast line have been the least of MY problems, but I fully expect for Comcast to still be working to resolve the issue. i don't know what else I can do to have this problem resolved. I do not think I am asking for too much, by expecting my service to work properly. Is this a cost issue? I have a sneaking feeling (only because a Comcast Tech TOLD me this verbatim) that if my problem is a hardware/wiring problem that will potentially cost tens of thousands of dollars to track-down/fix, then I will never see a solid fix, only band-aid solutions to keep me at bay, because Comcast will never see the return on their investment to fix the problem, with only a handful of potential customers affected by the problem.<br><br>Please let me know where this ticket stands, as my last contact via phone with Exec. Support, I clearly instructed to leave my service ticket OPEN.<br><br>I look forward to hearing from you, either via email or phone. <br><br><b>Responded to by one of the Comcast Rep's:</b><br><br>We do no want you fighting, we need to work together to figure this out.  Right now I am showing the trouble at the last hop into your modem, yet signals look good. I ran a traceroute and I could see the trouble at the last hop ( to the modem).  I actually did multiple and saw the same result.  Based on this I did a reset of the modem to see if it improved performance.  I then followed with 2 more traceroutes.  These were both normal.  I actually did more that these 2 and they too were normal.  These results indicate to me that the modem should be replaced.  I am sure that was already done, so I will also let the experts chime in.<br><br><b>Followed-Up Again Today via Email:</b><br><br>While anything is possible, I would be very surprised if the modem needed to be replaced.<br><br>WHY?<br><br>First: Because if the modem is the problem, then it's a singular problem, at a singular residence. I do not have this situation, as explained previously (which Frank, you may or may not have been included on) the problem exists for me, as well as my neighbors. So, unless all of my neighbors happen to have faulty modems........<br><br>Second: This problem has existed for the better part of 3+ years. Extending back to when I still had Comcast Digital Cable for television, during which I had a hellish time dealing with OnDemand menus and the guide, due to upload issues, as well as degraded picture quality. This has nothing to do with my modem. Also, in the last 3 years, my modem has been replaced, from a personally-owned modem (RCA Surfboard) to a Motorola Comcast-leased modem.<br><br>Maurice is probably more familiar with my problem than anyone, as I have had more phone contact with him. I'd appreciate his input on the issue, and where we stand as far as what's been done recently to achieve a resolution.<br><br>I do appreciate your help gentleman, and while I understand that my problem is in no way any your INDIVIDUAL's fault or doing, so don't mistake my disdain as being a personal attack on any of you, it's just immensely frustrating to be in the position I am in right now, with no apparent hope for the future, AND no reasonable broadband alternative to Comcast at my residence.... I am starting to think that Verizon will roll out FiOS hardware in my neighborhood long before Comcast can/will bring an ultimate, acceptable resolution to this problem. As each day passes with my current service situation, I start hoping for that outcome a little more and more.<br><br>Now... let's see what we can do to get this fixed.<br><br><b>Now, I guess I wait for a response, or a phone call...... *sigh*</b><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/996768"><b>jbob</b></A> : After reading this whole thread I never saw it mentioned but if this is indeed a "Line" issue I would expect other subs in your area to also be seeing the same issues as you.  Perhaps others who also happen to have Comcast may or may not be noticing the issue but should still be there.  I would ask around of others with Comcast to see if they too are experiencing problems.  If others in your area begin complaining this should get this issue elevated even more.<br><br>FWIW the only real issues I have had with Comcast were Upstream problems.  Happened twice to me at this location.  As you saw my downstream speeds were never affected...it was only the Upstream that would occasionally drop to almost nothing.  The first time it took them 2 months to figure it out, with my help of course.  The 2nd time it took a month for me to convince them.  Oddly enough however it seems the local guys "pencil whipped" the fix without actually fixing anything.  When I called and was told "I show that problem as fixed" the person I was talking to called the local office directly and this time it was fixed.<br><br>And I see someone finally mentioned taking your modem outside and connecting at the drop.  I used that technique as well to do my troubleshooting.  But I do all my own wiring/cabling here.<br><br>And FYI this site offers more thorough testing than the Line Quality Test provides so you can see for yourself and/or save tests to show others.  You can try either the <br><br>SmokePing test: &raquo;<A HREF="/smokeping">/smokeping</A><br><br>or the 24/7 Line Monitor: &raquo;<A HREF="/schedule">/schedule</A> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1368956"><b>gar187er</b></A> : a drop box!?!?!? ummmmmm<br><br>a line monitor is done on the system...no physical device is installed]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>Email Chain - Myself:Comcast :</small><br><br>Thanks for the reply. I will look forward to hearing from someone soon regarding the status.<br><br>Gerth, William wrote:<br>Sorry I have not been in the office until today.  I just sent this to the manager over in your local market.  Will have someone contact you shortly.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>William Gerth<br>Comcast Corporate Office<br>Comcast Customer Connect<br>One Comcast Center<br>1701 JFK Blvd.<br>Philadelphia, PA  19103<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Albie Day [mailto:aday81@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 AM<br>To: Gerth, William; Chandler, Maurice<br>Cc: Jason Pasco<br>Subject: Re: Packet Loss Issue<br><br>?????<br><br>Albie Day wrote:<br><br>Gentlemen,<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r20789537-3-Years-of-Upload-Dropping-Severe-Packet-Loss">3 Years of Upload Dropping - Severe Packet Loss</A>  <br>Please read Page 3 of 3 in that forum thread. I don't have the time nor the patience to regurgitate the information in there, so please read it, and someone please give me an update as to what is currently going on.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Albie<br></div><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Email To Comcast Executive Support - 8-4-08 :</small><br><br>Gentlemen,<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r20789537-3-Years-of-Upload-Dropping-Severe-Packet-Loss">3 Years of Upload Dropping - Severe Packet Loss</A><br><br>Please read Page 3 of 3 in that forum thread. I don't have the time nor the patience to regurgitate the information in there, so please read it, and someone please give me an update as to what is currently going on.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Albie </div>Emailed to my two Exec. Support Contacts. Time will tell.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/676491"><b>plat2on1</b></A> : is that executive support you called or the 1-800 number? is your executive support ticket still open? I'm under the impression only the customer can close those.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : well... i don't know if they are done yet or not, but... i am still having the problem.<br><br>so... i guess i have to just sit and wait.<br><br>called support today, and they said that a line crew was out on July 23rd (which is actually BEFORE the request for the monitor was submitted) and that while there is nothing in the system about WHAT they did... it's noted as a "Complete FIx"...... which is not true...<br><br>problem still exists...<br><br>i guess i have to start all over again with support... since they think it's fixed.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : They should have told you what to expect next.  <br><br>In my case, and this happened on 3 different occasions, they told me to expect the upstream work to take X time and that I would not be notified when it was done.  I never liked that answer, because I always felt like I was being "shined on."  But on all three occasions, the upstream work was done on time and the results were noticeable.<br><br>In two cases, they had to do work upstream from the curb.  It seems like this took 2-3 or 2-5 days.  In the third case, they replaced a line from the curbside container across the street to the side of my house.  That took 2 weeks and required line locating services to come out and paint up the area before they dug.<br><br>If I were you, even though you have every right to assume that the work hasn't been done, knowing how they've worked for me I'd run another test and see whether they may have fixed it and simply not informed you that they had.<br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon<br>More fun, more features, <i><A HREF="/join/new/">Join BroadbandReports.com</a></i>, it's free... <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : five times??? <br><br>excuse me while i laugh..... hehe<br><br>i have spent more time talking to Comcast reps... than i believe i have spent talking with my WIFE. <br><br>at least when she says she's going to do something, i can trust her.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1456663"><b>AquaSport</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  plat2on1 <A HREF="/useremail/u/676491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>i hope you haven't been paying for that type of service for the past 3 years<br><br>if the locals aren't fixing your issue you need<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/faq/comcast">Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/comcast/2.Troubleshooting#15903">How do I contact the Comcast Executive Complaint Center?</A><br> </div>usually, you have to call these guys 5 times:<br><br>first TWO to get them out to your residence (to look at the problem)<br><br>#3 for repairs<br><br>#4 for follow up<br><br>#5 possibly for more repairs<br><br>...... I had to use them a few months ago to get my cable fixed - I had the same upload issue, as well as extremely snowy cable tv picture/on demand/digital cable service disconnects.<br><br>they are very good with repairs, you just have to call them often to make sure they are doing what they say.<br><small>--<br>Out with the old, in with the Antique! :)<br>***********<br>"Hey, have you heard the song... 'Bomb Iran?' *bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Ir...* n - never mind..." - John McCain</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  plat2on1 <A HREF="/useremail/u/676491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>no they are hoping you will just go away.<br><br>did anyone from executive support give you a direct number to call?<br> </div>i have THREE direct numbers to Exec. Support, and a QC Lead Tech's cell number.<br><br>time for me to contact them again i guess. was hoping that one of the three people assigned to my account would take a little initiative. oh well... guess i expect too much from customer service.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/676491"><b>plat2on1</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  albie81 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>so.. it's been a week since they said they would have a drop-box installed on my line.<br><br>i wonder two things:<br><br>1- did they ever install the monitor?<br><br>2- do they plan on communicating with me? because for a communications company, they are dropping the ball.<br><br>as it stands right now, i have NO idea what is going on. have they done anything? have they installed the monitor? is it fixed? have they decided they don't care about me anymore? <br><br>i wouldn't know.<br> </div>no they are hoping you will just go away.<br><br>did anyone from executive support give you a direct number to call?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : so.. it's been a week since they said they would have a drop-box installed on my line.<br><br>i wonder two things:<br><br>1- did they ever install the monitor?<br><br>2- do they plan on communicating with me? because for a communications company, they are dropping the ball.<br><br>as it stands right now, i have NO idea what is going on. have they done anything? have they installed the monitor? is it fixed? have they decided they don't care about me anymore? <br><br>i wouldn't know.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : OK... update:<br><br>Line Crew came out. They have no idea what the problem is.<br><br>Request for 24hr Line Monitor was approved, and is supposed to be installed by today. It's 7:30pm, and no dice... we will see.<br><br>Problem is as bad as ever:<br><br><b>C:\ping -l 512 -t www.comacst.net<br><br>Pinging www.comacst.net [208.73.210.32] with 512 bytes of data:<br><br>Ping statistics for 208.73.210.32:<br>    Packets: Sent = 86, Received = 65, Lost = 21 (24% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 92ms, Maximum = 245ms, Average = 98ms<br></b><br><br>Something else I noticed today in the Logs for my modem:<br><br><b>4-Error&#9;&#9;SYNC: Hardware didn't detect SYNC msg for 600ms - Disable Upstream and trying to lock on DS</b><br><br>what does that mean?<br><br>oh.... one last thing... a representative contacted me via email approx. 10 days ago, saying that he was going to arrange a minimum of a 2-month credit to my account.<br><br>Yesterday... I received a 2-month bill.<br><br>Thanks!!!!!<br><br>I plan on printing out this thread in it's entirety, and sending it in as "payment" for this current bill.<br><br><i>(if I can ever get this reply to post!!! this is the fourth time I have tried to send "Post Now".....)</i><br><br>*sigh*<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : Congrats to you, man.  And congrats to that guy at Comcast for finally getting it right!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : haha. Thanks for the vote of confidence in my purity of heart.<br><br>Anyway, another tech came out today, from Comcast Quality Control. He said that he DOES see irregular packet-loss, outside... at the tap. Happening in spurts. i.e. 20-40 packets may come through fine, then 5-10 get lost. And that is the same thing I see on my client-side, in varying degrees of severity. (sp)<br><br>YAY!!!! This is the first tech EVER to confirm my thoughts about the problem being outside. I swear, I could not stomach one more person asking if I disconnected my router to see if that was the problem.... *sigh*<br><br>Anyway, the tech was great. He listened to everything I had to say, he responded with his own thoughts, and at the conclusion of his visit, he said that he is putting in an order for a maintenance crew to come out, as well as put in a request for a 24hr Line Monitor so Comcast can see a log on their end of exactly what/when/how my problem is creeping up.<br><br>He also left me with his card, with instructions to call him at will, and he assured me that as a Quality Control Tech, he is the only tech I will ever see again. No more of this "Tech Shows Up At Front Door... No Idea Why He's Been Sent To My House." That ALONE is enough to make me breath a sigh of relief. Because I think I might go insane if I have to explain the WHOLE problem to ONE MORE PERSON!<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : A Saint wouldn't realize that he had the patience of a Saint, either.   :) :D :o ;) :p]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : sadly...<br><br>I didn't have much time last night to check this out, and in what little time I did have... the problem wasn't occurring, so it would not have meant much anyway.<br><br>Try again today.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  funchords <A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>you have the patience of a Saint!)<br> </div>It's not so much that I have patience, as it is... what good will getting all bent out of shape be? Other than give me high blood pressure.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : Where do I place my bets?  :D :o ;)<br><br>(Seriously, good luck -- you have the patience of a Saint!)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Tech's coming out again tomorrow. <br><br>Comcast Quality Control contacted me today to ensure that the tech and/or supervisor that comes out is well aware of the problem, so we don't have the same problem I did on Friday with a tech knocking on the door to say "So... what seems to be the problem?"<br><br>Will update tomorrow.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by CT3 :</small><br><br>albie, take an extension cord, plug the modem in at the cable on the side of the house where it comes in, if it continues to do this, the problem is before your house wiring or the modem itself. If it stops, the problem is after the drop. </div>OK. The next time the problem rears it's very ugly head, I'll take my laptop & modem outside and run direct through the line.<br><br>(don't know why I never thought to do that before...)<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  albie81 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  gar187er <A HREF="/useremail/u/1368956"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br> i cant imagine this issue being a line problem.... </div>care to expound?<br> </div>I believe he is being factitious.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  mike12806 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1481994"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>If he has an amp installed, could it be that the amp is not letting his upstream signals through? I have an amp, but made sure it was "suitable for HSI and digital cable". It would make sense, considering his relatively high downstream power level. I know I've read on here somewhere that amps can and do interfere with HSI and digital cable because they impede the upstream signals.....<br> </div>Most amps just allow the signal to pass without active assistance. So it is unlikely [though possible] unless the amp has gone bad. Some amps are bidirectional and amplify the return signal helping the modem in cases where there are too many splitters, or too long of a run of cable to get back to the plant.<br><br>albie, take an extension cord, plug the modem in at the cable on the side of the house where it comes in, if it continues to do this, the problem is before your house wiring or the modem itself. If it stops, the problem is after the drop.<br><br>recommendation if it continues swap modem, at cable store or force next tech to and try it again or have him try it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  gar187er <A HREF="/useremail/u/1368956"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> i cant imagine this issue being a line problem.... </div>care to expound?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1368956"><b>gar187er</b></A> : i would love to take my 860 plug into the ground block, run my ping test and smile, as i cant imagine this issue being a line problem....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=53<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=25ms TTL=53<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=24ms TTL=53<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=53<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=25ms TTL=53<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=24ms TTL=53<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=24ms TTL=53<br>Reply from 209.170.118.16: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=53<br><br>Ping statistics for 209.170.118.16:<br>    Packets: Sent = 78, Received = 54, Lost = 24 (30% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 2819ms, Average = 102ms<br><br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=22ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=24ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=24ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=21ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=22ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=21ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=22ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=22ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=22ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=22ms TTL=54<br>Reply from 8.15.32.24: bytes=512 time=23ms TTL=54<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br><br>Ping statistics for 8.15.32.24:<br>    Packets: Sent = 114, Received = 82, Lost = 32 (28% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 713ms, Average = 37ms<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1481994"><b>mike12806</b></A> : If he has an amp installed, could it be that the amp is not letting his upstream signals through? I have an amp, but made sure it was "suitable for HSI and digital cable". It would make sense, considering his relatively high downstream power level. I know I've read on here somewhere that amps can and do interfere with HSI and digital cable because they impede the upstream signals.....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Thanks dailu... i see you can understand my pain...<br><br>Ao.....<br><br>Another tech came out last night.... and he walked in the door, looked at me and said <b>"So, what's the problem?"</b><br><br>I can't blame HIM, but.... he didn't have the slightest idea WHY he was being sent to my house. So, as much fun as it is to do, I had to explain the whole problem... again.... answer the same 20 questions.... again.... *sigh*<br><br>I'm sure he was a good tech, and just didn't get a good explanation as to why he was coming out to my house, for a repeat service call. Although, I don't understand how Comcast expects to diagnose and fix the problem, if they leave it up to me... the not-so-knowledgeable customer, to try to pick up the pieces and bring their own techs up to speed every time someone new gets involved. I really kind of just want anyone from Comcast who even thinks about looking into my issue, to read this thread. It will save me from having to re-explain my issues a hundred different times.<br><br>It was interesting though... the tech mentioned that Comcast now offers 16mbps service, and i should think about looking into getting that. I was speechless...... as an aside... I was kind of surprised that the tech didn't know what I was talking about when i mentioned "VoIP." He was confused by that term, so I said "Voice Over IP".... again nothing. I had to explain out "Telephone over Internet" before he said.. "OOOOOhhhhhhhh...."<br><br>So needless to say, the problem was not diagnosed, nor resolved last night. Even with everything I just posted above, I can't blame the tech for that, because while he was here, the problem was not really present. <br><br>But this morning: (32byte ping - www.comcast.net)<br><br>Ping statistics for 8.15.32.24:<br>    Packets: Sent = 177, Received = 140, Lost = 37 (20% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 3985ms, Average = 106ms<br><br>Ping statistics for 207.138.82.63:<br>    Packets: Sent = 364, Received = 265, Lost = 99 (27% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 2099ms, Average = 53ms<br><br>Ping statistics for 165.254.127.81:<br>    Packets: Sent = 62, Received = 50, Lost = 12 (19% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 3497ms, Average = 104ms<br><br><b>And here is a line test from this morning as well:</b> &raquo;<A HREF="/linequality/nil/2408807">/linequality/nil/2408807</A><br><br>Sorry for posting so many tests and pings... but, I'm trying to keep this whole thing as documented as possible right now.<br><br>Well, time to call Support again I suppose.<br><br>EDIT: Don't know what it means, but I see this in the Logs for my modem:<br>3-Critical&#9;R02.0&#9;No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/907343"><b>dailu</b></A> : Albie 81,<br><br>I just have to commend you on your ability to handle all of this and still maintain a sense of decency. Your situation is truly one from hell. <br><br>After Comcast inherited a bunch of those old AT&T routers out in Denver, I started seeing 20-30% packet loss from my connection here in CT, while gaming on Seattle Xbox live servers. Gaming is really an interesting way to get a feel for your connection because when it's not right, it's so obvious. I don't mean Latency, because I play regularly with people in Europe so I know what 200-300 ms pings do to games, but packet loss has another feel all together especially if you're playing a shooter game.<br><br>At any rate I just wanted to mention that I have a small understanding of what you're going through, but I doubt that I would have been able to deal with it as you have. I hope the best for you. I have friends who work for Comcast, and I know them to be professional in their work ethic, and they're smart as hell too. I don't think any of the local Comcast service guys compare to my buddies out of state, but maybe you'll get a good tech at some point and get sorted out..<br><br>Please let the forum know one way or another. I'm very interested to see if Comcast resolves this, and how they resolve it. If Verizon was offering FIOS in your area, it'd be a no brain-er and you could try another service provider, but some area's don't offer much competition.<br><br>Best of luck to you. Maybe you'll even be able to start some gaming, and get your VOIP fired up again.<br><br>Dailu]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Well,<br><br>There's another tech coming out tonight.<br><br>And a new user here on dslreports named "comcastbill" contacted me, and turns out, he is the real deal: works for Executive Support in the Philadelphia office (which is about 25 minutes from my house) and he has taken a personal interest in my case. He has requested that I contact him regarding the outcome of tonight's tech visit, to either confirm a resolution, or see how much higher up the tech-knowledge chain of command he needs to go, to get my issue resolved.<br><br>Comcast is really reaching out to me now to get this resolved, and I do much appreciate that. I got someone's attention, that's for sure. Should have done this a long time ago, and maybe I never would have gotten this upset.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : That tells me that it doesn't even have anything to do with packet size.  It sounds like they're taking you seriously now -- let's let the process work.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : not posting this whole one, because i let it run a long time:<br><br>Reply from 209.234.252.83: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 209.234.252.83: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 209.234.252.83: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 209.234.252.83: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 209.234.252.83: bytes=32 time=704ms TTL=57<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br><br>Ping statistics for 209.234.252.83:<br>    Packets: Sent = 556, Received = 399, Lost = 157 (28% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 3929ms, Average = 79ms<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Pinging a1526.g.akamai.net [64.86.184.128] with 32 bytes of data:<br><br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=136ms TTL=57<br>Request timed out.<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 64.86.184.128: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57<br><br>Ping statistics for 64.86.184.128:<br>    Packets: Sent = 25, Received = 20, Lost = 5 (20% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 136ms, Average = 22ms<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : Use the tests that show the results in the most reliable way.  <br><br>My objection to your large packets test is that the packet sizes cause packet fragmentation which is outside of your control.  For tests to be trustworthy, they need to be well understood and adding such length adds elements of doubt.  And since we're seeing such jumbo packets on ICMP (which is really not much of a user protocol), I don't know what today's networking products are likely to do with them.<br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon<br><i>Comcast: <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/5pv5zu">We never did anything wrong, and we'll never do it again</a></i>... <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : which would be the best way to test it then?<br><br>i've been using primarily the dslreports line quality testing tool for packet loss, which keeps showing heavy loss between 14% and 90%.<br><br>For what it's worth, Comcast is really busting their butt to help me now. A rep from the Executive office in NJ has contacted me, as well as a rep from the Executive office in Philadelphia. And they have been helpful thus far.<br><br>I am hopeful that my problem may finally have complete resolution. But I suppose only time will tell.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : beats me, but what you are doing is kinda insane.  The results could be some kind of anti-attack reponse.  Some intermediate device is tripping out due to "ping flood" or some similar security concern.<br><br>Further, without the anti-fragement flag set (-f, I think), I don't know if such results are useful for troubleshooting your problem since we have no idea how the packets are being manipulated along the way.<br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon<br><i>Comcast: <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/5pv5zu">We never did anything wrong, and we'll never do it again</a></i>... <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <b>why does this happen?</b><br><br>C:\>ping -l 45332 -t www.comcast.net<br><br>Pinging a1526.g.akamai.net [204.2.196.98] with 45332 bytes of data:<br><br>Reply from 204.2.196.98: bytes=45332 time=316ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 204.2.196.98: bytes=45332 time=301ms TTL=57<br>Reply from 204.2.196.98: bytes=45332 time=309ms TTL=57<br><br>Ping statistics for 204.2.196.98:<br>    Packets: Sent = 3, Received = 3, Lost = 0 (0% loss),<br>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>    Minimum = 301ms, Maximum = 316ms, Average = 308ms<br><br><b>and then... i ping again, with ONE more byte of data....</b><br><br>C:\>ping -l 45333 -t www.comcast.net<br><br>Pinging a1526.g.akamai.net [204.2.199.64] with 45333 bytes of data:<br><br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br>Request timed out.<br><br>Ping statistics for 204.2.199.64:<br>    Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 0, Lost = 5 (100% loss),<br><br><b>I can't ping anything higher than 45332 bytes of data. anything less, and i have no loss, anything higher and it's 100% loss. is there something I don't know about there? I thought the limit for pinging was in the 65k's.......<br><br>any tests I get this morning, aren't going to be significant anyway... because my connection seems OK this morning... I will try later... my problem at times is sporadic.</b><br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : Please try the following two commands and note the "(x% loss)" statistic from each:<br><br><b>ping -t 10 www.comcast.net</b><br><br><b>ping -l 1460 -t 10 www.comcast.net</b><br><br>Each should take about 10 seconds to complete.  Both test should return 0% loss.<br><br>If the second test shows a lot more loss than the first test, that means that larger packets are either getting clobbered or corrupted.  Since it even affected your set-top box, this has to be a problem upstream from your cable-modem (but may still involve an amp or leak on your property).  <br><br>If they saw it on the curb (which I think you said they seemed to see it at one time at the curb), then it would be upstream of your property.   <br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon<br><i>Comcast: <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/5pv5zu">We never did anything wrong, and we'll never do it again</a></i>... <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by jimbstars :</small><br><br> Then again I imagine they are trained that a high signal is a good signal -- no matter how high it might be.<br><br><b> I don't believe that is correct..</b><br><br>On my low sign problem I had my neighbor across the street run the signal webpage on her modem and it showed up as -5 dbmv.   I was jealous of her good signal level....<br><br><b>I'd rather see it at +5dB to consider it as good, but that's just me. <br><br>-5dB is weaker but still in spec. I like stronger as the lesser of 2 evils.<br><br>Zero is ideal.</b><br> </div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Got me to thinking... and I read another recent thread here where someone was talking about modem signal levels, and that directed me to the FAQs regarding this issue, so I decided to compare my modem levels, to the recommended levels. <br><br>They are as follows:<br><br><b>Downstream</b><br><br>Power Level: +10dBmV (Modem) vs. -10 to +10 Recommended<br><br><i>Looks like I am at the upper end of what is Recommended, but still within "Acceptable" limits.</i><br><br>Signal to Noise Ratio QAM256: 37 dB (Modem) vs. At least 33 or higher Recommended<br><br><i>Once again, this appears to be in the acceptable range.</i><br><br><b>Upstream</b><br><br>Power Level: +41 dBmV (Modem) vs. +35 to +52 Recommended<br><br><i>This also looks like it's right in the middle of what is the recommended ranges.</i><br><br>As I read that, all the Modem levels are within reasonable limits. <br><br>Am I correct about that???<br><br>I am so confused now.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : EG,<br><br>Yes you could be right.  I still have a SB2100 modem -- could be that one is more sensitive to high signal level perhaps??<br><br>Albie's problem with downloading test just stalling in mid-stream sure sounds familiar vis a vis my old problem.  In my case you could see the modem lights wink out and restart etc.  <br><br>Albie,  what did the tech's say about possible too high signal level?? Anything??  Then again I imagine they are trained that a high signal is a good signal -- no matter how high it might be.<br><br>On my low sign problem I had my neighbor across the street run the signal webpage on her modem and it showed up as -5 dbmv.   I was jealous of her good signal level....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : OK..<br><br>Last night around 8:15pm a tech and his supervisor came out to investigate the problem.<br><br>They spent about 20 minutes outside, and told me "they were seeing a strange signal to noise ratio"...<br><br>Then they came inside, and started testing cable outlets within the house. And although they didn't TELL me, I believe they were seeing the same problem, and the supervisor mentioned to me that he thought maybe there was a problem with their meter, and that he would have to send someone else back out to verify.<br><br>The tech's supervisor, was focused on the fact that it is my Dish Network that is causing the problem... he wouldn't listen to me when I told him <i>"I got Dish Network BECAUSE of this problem. The problem existed long before I had Dish Network installed."</i><br><br>They spent the most time pulling all the cable outlets in the house and checking connectors and re-snugging all the connections. Who knows.... maybe a bad cable connection someone could be causing the problem, can't fault them for trying to cover all the angles.<br><br>As they were wrapping up to leave, the tech's supervisor had me crank up a computer and run a few internet speed tests. As I expected, the tests showed that I get technically HIGH speeds, but halfway through most tests we ran, they would stall out. So, I showed the tech's supervisor the line quality tests in my history here, and we ran two new line quality tests while he was standing behind me. <br><br>Test 1: &raquo;<A HREF="/linequality/nil/2407480">/linequality/nil/2407480</A> - East Coast didn't finish last hop - West @ 34% loss<br><br>Test 2: &raquo;<A HREF="/linequality/nil/2407489">/linequality/nil/2407489</A> - 35% - 50% Packet Loss<br><br>The tech's supervisor looked at the results of these two tests and said<i> "I'm not familiar with this sort of test. I have only looked at speed tests."</i><br><br>So.... <br><br>As it stands right now, I am waiting for another tech to come and verify the signal levels with another meter.<br><br>The levels on the work ticket from last night are:<br><br><b><u>Channel ----- 112 --- 2/4 --- High Quam --- Low Quam</u></b><br>Tap Levels --- 21 ---- 12 ----- 21 ----------- 12<br>G/B Levels -------------no levels listed------<br>TV Levels ---- 8 ----- 11 ----- 9 ------------- 3<br><br>S/N: 33<br><br>Return db Power Level: 36<br><br>They also told me last night, that sometime between July 10th, and yesterday (July 15th) a Line Crew DID come out, and replaced/fixed SOMETHING, although did not know what it was or when.<br><br>If that is the case, the problem still is not fixed.<br><br>Here is a Line Test from this morning: &raquo;<A HREF="/linequality/nil/2407634">/linequality/nil/2407634</A> - 12% - 45% Packet Loss<br><br>Even as I am typing this, my connection is flaking out.<br><br>*sigh*...<br><br>We'll see what happens. I contacted Comcast Corp. Customer Relations yesterday, and received two emails and a phone call within 4 hours of contacting them, since I directed them directly to this thread. I also contacted ComcastCares on Twitter, which has been going back and forth in emails, as well as forwarding the whole experience to The Consumerist.<br><br>I have said many times to the customer service people... that I understand that at times there are PROBLEMS. I totally understand that. Nothing works perfectly all the time. My biggest problem, is that for years I have felt like I have been getting brushed off by techs, phone support & billing support. No one will listen to what I have to say. I know I don't understand the technical workings of this... but I am an intelligent person, and common sense tells me.... "<i>If I look at these 8 to 10 residences, all in a row, all feeding from the same cable box, and they ALL have Satellite for television, while virtually NONE of the other residences in the area have satellite... does that mean there's a problem with MY modem?"</i> Probably not. I can't believe I had to keep explaining last night that the problem existed LONG before I had Dish Network installed. Just LISTEN to what I have to say.<br><br>And for the love of god... don't stand there and run a speed  test, and totally ignore the massive line quality degradation I am experiencing. <br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Uhh no, chan 112 should be his downstream hsi carrier according to the freq listed on his modem diagnostic..<br>so signal is 19.6 at tap, 13.7 at ground block, and 10 at modem. He indicates he is having a return problem and the paperwork indicates problem with low quam, which supports his theory since his upstream freq is 33Mhz, except that if its *return* you do not read it as downstream signal [you read the power level required to reach the head end which his readings look fine, so.... no telling.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/956696"><b>rody_44</b></A> :  you have to keep in mind you have 0.three at the ground block and 10 at the modem. you have 10 dbs MORE signal at the modem. thats impossible. its like trying to fill 4 55 gallon drums with three quarts of water. just plain not possible unless something is adding signal after it gets to the house. the only other possibility is the modem is wrong or the docsis meter the tech was using is wrong. if thats the case ide put money on the 4 thousand dollar meter before the 50 dollar cable modem. most likely a drop amp somewhere tho. it could be added anywhere in the house.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Jimbstars :</small><br><br>Albie ....<br><br>Whoooooooooiiieee!  Your downstream power level is WAY too high.    </div>I wouldn't exactly call that "WAY too high"... I'd say it's borderline high, and that some modems are more tolerant of out of spec power levels than are others.<br><br>At one time my downstream power level was at +21dB for more than a year with my Moto SB5100 modem, and it never once hiccupped..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : I forwarded this thread, along with a brief explanation to "Comcastcares" on Twitter...<br><br>Within 30 minutes I received a return email from a real person, who is promising to help me.<br><br>We will see. I hope I can see some sort of resolution soon.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Jimbstars  :</small><br><br>In my case the whole damn street was too high -- had to be adjusted up at the head-end or whatever.</div>Sounds like my situation.... you'll notice in my original post above:<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  albie81 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>It's interesting, but I am not the only person in my neighborhood who has this problem. I live in a townhouse community, and if you drive through the development, you will see a total of 3 satellite dishes on the buildings. In probably over 100 units. <b>MY building is the only thing that feeds off of the line on my side of the street, and EVERY SINGLE UNIT in my building (10 units) has a satellite dish on it, because we all have the same problem.</b> I am apparently the only one who complains about it.</div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Albie ....<br><br>Whoooooooooiiieee!  Your downstream power level is WAY too high.   I had this same issue a few years ago with a downstream of around +9.  The high signal would overdrive the cable modem and it would periodically reset/reboot itself -- naturally causing lots of annoying temporary internet outages ...<br><br>Get that sucker down in the -3 dbmv range  --  (that is MINUS number .. not positive).   <br><br>That COULD be done using splitters to reduce it (that's a lotta splitters tho).  It really should be fixed at the street.   In my case the whole damn street was too high -- had to be adjusted up at the head-end or whatever.<br><br>(My current problem is a TOO LOW signal level -17 to -19). They promised THREE street level visits to adjust it -- they have never shown up yet.   I don't feel so bad now what with your 20+ visits and no fix!! Yow.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  rody_44 <A HREF="/useremail/u/956696"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> it looks like someone installed a drop amp somewhere in your house. it also looks like its doing more harm than good. ide remove it. <br> </div>what's a <b>drop amp</b>? and as far as someone <b>adding one</b>... I've had this problem since I moved in, so whatever it is, would have to have been installed during construction.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  rody_44 <A HREF="/useremail/u/956696"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>it looks like your levels go 8.1 at the tap to 0.6 at the ground block to 10 at your modem. your picking up 10 from the ground block to your modem after the splits. has anyone actually discussed replacing the inside line or is that out of the question?</div>one of the techs who came out a long time ago, suggested replacing the inside line. But then, before he did that, he went and tested something at the "box on the corner" and came back to the house and said the problem wasn't in the house, but out at the street.<br><br>like I have said several times before... I don't understand any of this, and I am simply spitting back what I've been told. So, if I sound like an idiot, it's because on this subject... I am one.<br><br>thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/956696"><b>rody_44</b></A> : it looks like your levels go 8.1 at the tap to 0.6 at the ground block to 10 at your modem. your picking up 10 from the ground block to your modem after the splits. has anyone actually discussed replacing the inside line or is that out of the question?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/956696"><b>rody_44</b></A> :  it looks like someone installed a drop amp somewhere in your house. it also looks like its doing more harm than good. ide remove it. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Upstream  &#9;Value<br>Channel ID &#9;5<br>Frequency &#9;33200000 Hz<br>Ranging Service ID &#9;2050<br>Symbol Rate &#9;5.120 Msym/s<br>Power Level &#9;41 dBmV<br><br>Downstream  &#9;Value<br>Frequency &#9;723000000 Hz <br>Signal to Noise Ratio &#9;37 dB <br>QAM &#9;QAM256<br>Network Access Control Object &#9;ON<br>Power Level &#9;10 dBmV  <br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/956696"><b>rody_44</b></A> :  the signal levels really are not that bad. not the best but your ground block and tap readings should be workable. looking at the tap and ground block readings ide start looking within the house. go to your modem thru your browser and let us know what that is reporting for signal. 192.168.100.1. how many lines do you have in your house? and most important how many splitters is your modem behind. ide seriously question any cable work done with using splitters as barrels. the guy that wires a new house and not only pieces the cable together but pieces it together with splitters should be shot. pretty sure bet that in a new developement all your neighbors were wired by the same person. if i bought a new house and i found my coax was pieced with splitters. the builder would be back replacing it all.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : Thought I'd post another Line Quality Test.... this one really takes the cake!!!!!<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/linequality/nil/2407096">/linequality/nil/2407096</A><br><br>Read that and weep.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Quaoar <A HREF="/useremail/u/1056394"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>For completeness, can you post your modem type and signal levels? </div>Here is what I've got on the work ticket:<br><br>Trap - 12.9/0.6/17.7/15.1 ---the 0.6 is circled<br>(12-23) (33-44)<br>HBO - 13.5/6.7/18.5/15.6  -- that second number could be a "6" or a"0" not totally legible but that number is circled<br>After Trap Rpl - 11.4/2.1/16.3/15.1 - again the second number (2.1) is circled<br><br>At the bottom of the page on the right is a box and columns (printed on the page) with this info<br><br>Channel:             112          2/4     High Quam      Low Quam<br><br>TAP LEVELS      19.6         13.6        17.1                8.1<br>G/B LEVELS       13.7         11.5        10.6               0.3                         The LOW QUAM numbers are both circled and highlighted and flagged as problems.<br><br>S/N   34/34<br><br>Return db POWER LEVEL  39.84 / 38.84 / 36.84]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <b>SOOOOO...... I forwarded an Email to Comcast, including this thread in it, as well as sending it to The Consumerist.... and I just received a cookie-cutter response from Comcast, to my VERY specific email detailing these issues:</b><br><br> <blockquote><small>said by "Comcast" :</small><hr>Dear Albert,<br><br>Thank you for contacting us regarding your Comcast High Speed Internet <br>service.<br><br>After reviewing your e-mail and your account, I see that your issues <br>have not been resolved.  At this time I believe it is necessary to send <br>a technician to your home.  <br><br>To make this process easier for you, you will need to contact us in our <br>live chat forum to setup your technician visit.  One of our Online <br>Customer Support Specialist will be happy to assist you with scheduling <br>a service call.  You can visit us at your convenience 24 hours a day, 7 <br>days a week at:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.comcastsupport.com/chat" >www.comcastsupport.com/chat</A><br><br>You can also reach us at 1-800-266-2278.<br><br>If you are unable to get connected, or stay connected to the internet <br>you can call our phone support at 1-800-266-2278<br><br>To assure the proper tracking of this issue, we have created the <br>following customer service ticket: <b><i>XXXXXXXXX (actual ticket removed)</i></b><br><br>Please refer to this number should you contact us regarding this same <br>issue.<br><br>Thank you for choosing Comcast. We value your business.<br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Christopher<br>Comcast Customer Care Specialist<hr></blockquote><br><br><b>Don't you think that they would be able to tell in my account, that I already have an open order for a Tech for TOMORROW, as well as an open order for a Line Crew???!?!?!? <br><br>For a COMMUNICATIONS company, they certainly don't communicate within their own corporation well.<br><br>$100 says that I get two techs scheduled to come out to my house now.</b><br><br>To be totally honest, at this point, I really don't know exactly what it is that I expect from them. Are they going to FIX my problem after three years off-and-on? I would love for that to happen, but I am not holding my breath. I just want someone to give me a straight answer. <br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Quaoar <A HREF="/useremail/u/1056394"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>For completeness, can you post your modem type and signal levels? </div>I will post that information this evening when I get home from work. The last tech who came out, wrote all the signal levels on the work ticket, although I will not pretend to know what they mean.<br><br>All I know, is that the last tech, circled a bunch of numbers in the signal tests he did, and said they were "out of whack." But like I said, this is outside of my area of expertise, so I'm at their mercy as to what that exactly means.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1056394"><b>Quaoar</b></A> : For completeness, can you post your modem type and signal levels?<br><br>Q]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  plat2on1 <A HREF="/useremail/u/676491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>i hope you haven't been paying for that type of service for the past 3 years </div>About a year, maybe year and a half ago, I was the complaining customer from hell. They would credit bills when I would complain, for $20-$30 here and there. But still nothing would actually RESOLVE the problem.<br><br>I don't have a problem paying for service. I just want to receive the service I am paying for.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/676491"><b>plat2on1</b></A> : i hope you haven't been paying for that type of service for the past 3 years<br><br>if the locals aren't fixing your issue you need<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/faq/comcast">Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/comcast/2.Troubleshooting#15903">How do I contact the Comcast Executive Complaint Center?</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1134496"><b>albie81</b></A> : OK...<br><br>Before you read anything, check out this Line Quality Test:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/linequality/nil/2406845">/linequality/nil/2406845</A><br><br>You'll have to pardon my ranting, but this has been a problem for a LONG time. If Verizon had run copper in my neighborhood, or if/when they ever run FiOS, I have decided long ago, that I will be jumping ship from Comcast, because of the horrific experience I have had with them. But unfortunately, my only current broadband option is Comcast. <i>(Cost for Satellite or WISP is prohibitive, although I have considered it.)</i><br><br><u><b>To Recap The Issues:</b></u><br><br><b>1- </b>I have had to cancel my 3rd party VoIP account, because my upload signal regularly dumps.<br><br><b>2- </b>Online gaming is virtually impossible, because although my down-pipe is fine, when I lose the upload, I lose all ability to act within the game environment, regardless of what game it is.<br><br><b>3- </b>I had to cancel Comcast Digital Cable (TV) because of this upload issue. If I tried to order On-Demand events, the system would freeze, because I couldn't SEND information through the system. Regularly couldn't change channels. This is simple stuff.<br><br><b>4- </b>I host a personal/non-business related website. I regularly cannot upload information.<br><br><b>5- </b>I cannot use services such as Skype, Ventrilo or Teamspeak, because my upload drops out.<br><br><b>6- </b>Chat programs like Trillian, Yahoo IM, MSN Messenger, AIM are spotty, because I can receive messages, but very often cannot send.<br><br><b>7- </b>E-mail is a hassle, because sending can be spotty.<br><br>It all started when I moved to this townhouse. (2005) The development is brand new, all the lines and hardware are brand new. Within the first month I noticed that my upload pipe was, shall we say, "unreliable"... It's not that it wasn't fast enough to satisfy my needs... It's that it would on certain intervals, drop to ZERO, take a few minutes, cycle, and come back. It took 3 tech vists just to convince them that the problem wasn't any of my network hardware, and they finally told me "the upload signal at the box (at the corner of the street) was so low they almost couldn't measure it."<br><br>They then dug up and replaced the main line that ties all of the units in my building to the service main. I can say, they did NOT bury it deep enough, because I can SEE it in my front yard. They also, and I quote from another tech "used a gauge wire they only normally use when they have to run very long distances, which is odd, since they are only running about 120 feet." <br><br>I gave up complaining about this problem about a year ago, after a Supervisor Tech came out and told me it was a quality of service issue, and that my best bet was to try Verizon. The result of his visit was as follows:<br>I explained the whole deal to him, and he headed outside. About 15 or 20 minutes later he came back in the house to tell me:<br><br>1 - the problem is 100% outside.<br><br>2 - the problem is somewhere past the cable box on the corner.<br><br>3 - he said "the upstream is WAY too high" (remember, i am spitting back what he said, i have zip idea what that means.)<br><br>4 - he said "the power rating has noise/distortion, and does not maintin a constant signal. even if it were a weak signal, it should remain a constant weak signal. something is wrong, if it's all over the place like this." (remember, i am spitting back what he said, i have zip idea what that means.)<br><br>5 - he left his ticket open, and put in a, SRO for a Line Crew to come out, because the problem definately exists somewhere behind the box.. whether it's up a pole or undergound, he obviously couldn't say.<br><br>6 - he said the wiring at my house was done by a blind person, and he re-worked it, although that wasn't going to FIX the problem, but should help with performance once the problem is fixed. (he said that someone was using a 3-way splitter as a junction and left the other 2 ports open, so he replaced it with a "barrel"..)<br><br><b>NOW</b>... in 3 years, I have had probably 15-20 service calls, two SRO's for Line Crews.... and as I am typing this, I have my second tech in less than a week scheduled to come out, as well as another SRO for a Line Crew.<br><br>It's interesting, but I am not the only person in my neighborhood who has this problem. I live in a townhouse community, and if you drive through the development, you will see a total of 3 satellite dishes on the buildings. In probably over 100 units. MY building is the only thing that feeds off of the line on my side of the street, and EVERY SINGLE UNIT in my building (10 units) has a satellite dish on it, because we all have the same problem. I am apparently the only one who complains about it.<br><br>Here's an old post here on BBR when I was pursuing the problem, and as fed up, as I am now:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r18026589-Comcast-passing-the-buck-to-the-customer-for-bad-service">Comcast passing the buck to the customer for bad service?</A><br><br>If anyone has any suggestions, I am ALL EARS!<br><br>Thanks, and sorry for being ranty and long-winded.<br><small>--<br><b>"What happens when the clock reaches 999?"........ "Nothing. You just suck."</b></small>]]></description>
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