last: tag in Site Feature Requests

Re: last: tag

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:33:52 EDT

said by Ascent :

I would have to say I do not care for the changes, Let the Iphone users get use to the way it was...they surely can not be the majority of users here? I will keep my actual opinion of how it looks to myself! I found the last poster info very useful and would prefer it in the format it was in!

It worked fine on my iPhone the way it was; agreed with ~~cyber~~ sexy librarian! ;)

Re: last: tag

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:29:53 EDT

StreetSpirit :

said by justin :

I'm going to leave it as it is for a while, and work on some other stuff with the layout. There is lots of useful information that could be displayed: how long ago in minutes a topic was updated, how big the last post was, whether a mod or vip has posted in a topic, whether someone you 'follow' has posted yet or not, whether there are lots of deletes, if a topic was resurrected. I could go on.

One or more of these things could have been in from the start (instead of a clickable "last poster" name) and some people would have developed habits that involve checking for this, and would simply hate to see it go.

The only answer is a fully custom layout for logged in users where you select the columns you want to see - and maybe that is where it has to go.

Thanks for leaving it as it was for now. The last poster information was very important to me as well. As someone stated, I often skim and look for replies from people's opinion I value and read the thread, even if the thread isn't directly relevant to me.

The fully customizable layout seems like a lot of work, however. :)

Re: last: tag

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:43:07 EDT

darcilicious :

said by Ascent :

I would have to say I do not care for the changes, Let the Iphone users get use to the way it was...they surely can not be the majority of users here?

I agree and I'm an iPhone user. It worked fine on the iPhone before anyhow. The zoom and slide features work great.

Re: last: tag

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:13:37 EDT

Gizy : It's also easier for your eyes to follow the characters with the leading zero. You don't try to figure out what's wrong with the spacing.

The leading zero isn't the problem. The formatting is.

Re: last: tag

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:49:02 EDT

koam : the leading zero should be a leading space and the numbers should line up vertically. there's no need to display the zero

Re: last: tag

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:14:16 EDT

GeekNJ :

said by MorWired :

The leading zero in the time stamp allows the time to line up regardless of what time it is -- it's aesthetically more pleasing that way, not clutter.

Based on the current presentation of the page, "lining up" and "aesthetically more pleasing" wasn't part of the decision.
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Re: last: tag

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:04:29 EDT

MorWired :

said by koam :

in the Last Post column...

- kill the ordinal text "th" "st" etc. unnecessary.
- kill the leading zero on the time stamp...ditto

both are just clutter.

The leading zero in the time stamp allows the time to line up regardless of what time it is, to wit: 12:45 takes up the same amount of space as 04:37 -- it's aesthetically more pleasing that way, not clutter.
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Re: last: tag

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:04:00 EDT

OZO : 1) If you concern about space - change data / time format from (an example here):

 
16th Jul 08:36PM

to:


07-16 20:36

2) last poster column was important for me. Please keep it.

3) I do not think that asterisks pointing to user's info are important on fav page. I'd eliminate all of them as an extra unnecessary clutter.

Thanks

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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:28:40 EDT

Ascent : I would have to say I do not care for the changes, Let the Iphone users get use to the way it was...they surely can not be the majority of users here? I will keep my actual opinion of how it looks to myself! I found the last poster info very useful and would prefer it in the format it was in!

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:06 EDT

Gbcue :

said by koam :

in the Last Post column...

- kill the ordinal text "th" "st" etc. unnecessary.
- kill the leading zero on the time stamp...ditto

both are just clutter.

All of that and I think it should say this:

USERNAME on the first line
DATE OF LAST POST on the 2nd line

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:38:22 EDT

koam : in the Last Post column...

- kill the ordinal text "th" "st" etc. unnecessary.
- kill the leading zero on the time stamp...ditto

both are just clutter.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:09:23 EDT

sbrook :

said by koam :

and why are some of the names in the last column clickable while most are not? and what does clicking the clickable ones yield you? I clicked my name on this thread and it gave me a mostly blank page.

They are clickable when they are threads you have participated in and there are unread posts AFTER the one you added. So, this is in essence "All new posts after your last one." I don't get it ... I usually like a few before and mine to do some rescan.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:00:12 EDT

pcdebb : that right column looks "busy". I refuse to call my eyes "old" but they definitely dont work well these days :D

so the threadstarter's name isnt the link, the asterisk next to it is. curious as to why. i guess the eliminated column is why it looks busy and just not used to it. serves the purpose everyone is looking for (to know who was last there)

on a side note, that brighthouse asterisk looks like he came here and had a bunch of babies
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:53:30 EDT

B : I don't mind the Last Post column, though it makes the screen awfully wide, but the persistence of the asterisks is killing me. I think they're just keeping it out of spite at this point. :)

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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:47:29 EDT

koam : and why are some of the names in the last column clickable while most are not? and what does clicking the clickable ones yield you? I clicked my name on this thread and it gave me a mostly blank page.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:20:51 EDT

koam : I have to concur with everyone else. I see zero improvements here...a clickable asterisk? How about a clickable pixel? Is this a mouse skills agility test? The popup info should be in a mouseover and the clickable name should be to the member's profile page.

The last column also looks messy and I agree with the others who are opposed to the changes.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:27:45 EDT

Devanchya : I personally HATE the new Last look.

It looks crowded and like it was to make the site more 'web 2.0' in look.

Case of someone doing something for design vs function.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:50:33 EDT

sporkme :

said by justin :

well, you still don't need the "last" username, because any topics you have posted to get blue arrows before the last-updated date, if they have new replies since you last opened them?

I bet somewhere there's a hidden page with a list of what all the various icons are supposed to mean. :)

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:09:46 EDT

fourboxers : Since you don't actually have to click the blue arrow rather anywhere in that column to get to new posts, would it not clean up that column to have the arrow in the left most spot.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:48:10 EDT

sbrook : Well, it is an old adage ... it normally sounds like this "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" :)

I think that applies here. It's reasonable to add new functionality but the part that was changed to add new functionality wasn't broken.

As to the *'s after user names, could we not simply have clicked on the user name there ?

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:12:54 EDT

Wolfie00 : One thing that I think we are proving here is how much a UI preference is the result of habit and familiarity, which leads to the following old adage that I just made up ;) -- that often the best UI design is the one you already have!

Still, I agree with the last couple of comments and I think there are practical reasons for saying that "last poster" was perhaps better the way it was before, where I think it had its own column. By lumping it in with the date/time column, the eye has to scan a wider expanse of text to pick out the info you want. Before, poster name and date/time stood out more easily. I realize this is a pretty nit-picky point and I'm just glad to have the info displayed, but thought I'd mention it. So yes, I can see the point of those saying it was better the way it was before.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:12:39 EDT

Grail Knight :

quote:
and since it is cluttered I'll just put it in a mouse over..

That works fine for those that use the mouse over feature. Some like myself have mouse over turned off.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:10:18 EDT

sbrook : Definitely harder to read ... especially as eyes get older.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:04:37 EDT

PhoenixDown :

said by Turbocpe :

Justin, is this why the postlist, under the forum column, is right-adjusted? Or is it not suppose to be that way? Looks a bit out of place and adds more whitespace.

[att=1]

I find the right-adjusted columns are very hard to scan through :(

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:36:19 EDT

sbrook : But this isn't New posts since you last read (which is the envelope on the left), but rather the new posts since your last post.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:22:26 EDT

TheWiseGuy : Thank you.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:21:03 EDT

Dersgniw : The colon makes sense when there are no new posts (thus no arrow).

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:17:51 EDT

sbrook : The last poster/post column is odd. Putting the "From your last post" arrow after the last poster name before the date is just plain weird. This should be like the page counting option (1 2 3 e) like (1 2 3 e y) since it has nothing to do with the last post.

Then the last post should be name and date ... why the colon ? And I'd never noticed before 16th Jul 01:23 PM ... for space might it be better as 16 Jul 13:23

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:12:23 EDT

33591094 : I agree - put it back the way it was, and then see if you can make it customizable - for that minority that may want to change it.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:57:27 EDT

Wolfie00 :

said by MorWired :

said by justin :

I'm going to leave it as it is for a while, and work on some other stuff with the layout.

The way it is right this second (the name preceding the time of the post within the same column) is pretty ok. The old way seemed cleaner, but this is at least just as functional. Not bad. :)

I agree.

Justin: When I first read this I was disappointed to see the part about "I'm going to leave it as it is for a while..." until I noticed that "last poster" was, in fact, back! Thanks! :) The idea of a customizable layout that you mentioned is of course the perfect solution, but it's probably fairly complex to do. Don't really know if it's worth it if most folks are reasonably happy with a standard layout. If I could fully customize it in any way I probably wouldn't change it much from the way it is now.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:57:19 EDT

ross : I vote to DUMP the asterisks, and put the the format back the way it was; including the column for last poster (and, I don't mean that funky, crappy interim first/last poster format that was tried last night, but the original, tried and true version that existed for these past few years). You are messing with perfection here...

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:44:45 EDT

SuperNet33 : This tag thing sucks :(

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:43:29 EDT

MorWired :

said by MorWired :

Not bad. :)

Oh, and I just noticed, thank you for adding the last poster info to the last column in all formats, including the threads you posted in view. Yay, thanks!
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:40:18 EDT

ptrowski :

said by burris :

said by ptrowski :

I liked having the last post tag. I would love to get this back.

For once---we agree.. ;)

Mark it down in the history books!

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:36:02 EDT

burris :

said by ptrowski :

I liked having the last post tag. I would love to get this back.

For once---we agree.. ;)

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:30:37 EDT

horsemouth :

said by justin :

Someone elsewhere posted:

"Knowing the last poster was very useful to me to see if amnyone had replied to topics I had last posted to. "

I'm always interested to see what unusual ways people have got used to to find information but this is a puzzle: the page »/postlist shows which topics have been replied to "that you last post to", and the blue arrow shows updates to topics you are reading, so I'm not sure why the last poster info was anything useful?

I find that people sometimes give a relevant answer but do not respond to me directly so I keep an eye out for their post by looking for their name.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:29:47 EDT

Just Bob :

said by MorWired :

The way it is right this second (the name preceding the time of the post within the same column) is pretty ok. The old way seemed cleaner, but this is at least just as functional. Not bad. :)

Agreed.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:27:35 EDT

Alcohol : Anyway to remove the n/a under postlist? I see why it's there - if someone replied to your post it shows their name, but the majority of the posts still show n/a which makes it pretty useless.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:22:25 EDT

MorWired :

said by justin :

I'm going to leave it as it is for a while, and work on some other stuff with the layout.

The way it is right this second (the name preceding the time of the post within the same column) is pretty ok. The old way seemed cleaner, but this is at least just as functional. Not bad. :)

The right-justification of the forum column really does make things look more cluttered, however. But, it's not so horrible as to cause huge difficulties.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:20:48 EDT

B : Huh. I was so busy being irritated by the Asterisk ( »Please Take The Asterisks Away ) that I didn't even notice the Last Poster was gone.

Bad -- I almost always rely on that info to see where a thread's going and whether I should return quickly or not.

Why was it removed? (Sorry, didn't read the whole thread herein.)

*object* (to removal)

Edit: Whoops -- as I refresh the page, the user name in a new "Last Post" column is getting toggled on and off. Not sure what's going on here but I guess Justin et al. are working on it...

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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:01:58 EDT

GeekNJ :

said by justin :

The only answer is a fully custom layout for logged in users where you select the columns you want to see - and maybe that is where it has to go.

That would be great, but I guess I'm at a loss why something is taken away and not replaced with something either as or more useful then what was removed.

Looking at the screen shot below, removing something that seems a lot of people used and preferred to see based on the above posts and not replacing it with anything while leaving plenty of space seems like a less then optimal user experience.

[att=1]

And right justifying the forum name smushes (technical term) all the text together vs it being spaced nicely when it was left justified.

And why add the * vs just hyperlink the posters name to do the same thing and save a character?
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:59:47 EDT

ptrowski :

said by 33591094 :

said by ptrowski :

I liked having the last post tag. I would love to get this back.

Ditto.

And to change it for that minority - the iPhone user...

ugh.

Yep...I can view it no problem on my Touch. I just zoon in if I need to.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:58:03 EDT

33591094 :

said by ptrowski :

I liked having the last post tag. I would love to get this back.

Ditto.

And to change it for that minority - the iPhone user...

ugh.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:44:42 EDT

justin : I'm going to leave it as it is for a while, and work on some other stuff with the layout. There is lots of useful information that could be displayed: how long ago in minutes a topic was updated, how big the last post was, whether a mod or vip has posted in a topic, whether someone you 'follow' has posted yet or not, whether there are lots of deletes, if a topic was resurrected. I could go on.

One or more of these things could have been in from the start (instead of a clickable "last poster" name) and some people would have developed habits that involve checking for this, and would simply hate to see it go.

The only answer is a fully custom layout for logged in users where you select the columns you want to see - and maybe that is where it has to go.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:39:30 EDT

ptrowski : I liked having the last post tag. I would love to get this back.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:34:42 EDT

boognish : I sort of used it. If it was a topic I was interested in and I saw that someone new replied to the topic. I would look at the name and realize that it may be a waste of time to look at the new reply and to wait until someone else came and posted to the topic.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:33:38 EDT

darcilicious : 1) I like the last user posted info. It helps me determine if I'll bother reading that thread or using the catch-up feature for the forum or not. Granted, I only got to see the last poster but it was enough for me. I for one would like it back.

2) A better way to design layout for the iphone is not to mess with the defacto layout but to provide a mobile-specific layout. Also, the iPhone in particular lets you flip 90 degrees to increase screen-width, zoom-in, etc etc. I use the iPhone to browse the forums several times a week and had no problems with the original layout.

3) If having too many columns is an issue for non-mobile browsers with lower resolutions screens, then make the columns (or more of the forum layout) customizable by the user.

Just my worthless $0.02 ;-)

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:26:13 EDT

Dersgniw : I don't usually complain about changes here.. I know I'll get used to most of them.

I miss the last poster column - it's really an odd thing to remove. It's useful information, especially in the more social forums. I don't like to compare other forums, but sSometimes you have to look at other forum software and think, if they all have it, maybe there's a reason.

If you're looking for ideas to save horizontal space, a lot of other places stack the info under a last post column. So, one column, date is on top of the last poster - Check fatwallet, slickdeals, IPB.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:15:58 EDT

Cabal :

said by jfmezei :

Sorry, I don't want to lears a gaizzlion different hidden pages I don't know about.

It's the star in the top-left corner of your screen. Not exactly hidden.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:14:36 EDT

Jim Gurd :

said by nwrickert :

It's your call, of course. But I did value that information.

As did I.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:11:22 EDT

dave : Did the 'last reply by X' information disappear completely? I can't find it by looking (and I'm obviously not a read-the-manual type of guy).

I agree with those who say it's important information. I have differing levels of respect for different respondents!

(Yeah, obviously it's a quirky piece of data to rely on, given that if SomeKnownSensibleGuy responds, and then KnownTroll responds immediately after that, then I never see the info about the first one. But nevertheless, in practice I have grown to find the name useful).

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:40:50 EDT

nwrickert :

..., so I'm not sure why the last poster info was anything useful?

I will often read a thread because the last poster is somebody I respect, even though the thread title suggests it is not of interest to me.

It's your call, of course. But I did value that information.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:31:24 EDT

TheWiseGuy : I liked the old format. The last poster gives you a quick idea, over time, of who is posting in a thread. It sometimes encourages me to read the thread, especially if I see users who are sharp, posting. I will then read the thread to see what has been said.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:04:57 EDT

Mele20 : Last poster column has always been the most important column on postlist page for me. I have had postlist page as my home page for all the years I have been a member here. Now, that page has been rendered basically worthless to me.

I don't use mouseover here so that asterisk has to be clicked on and it just took me to the user's page and I thought "huh"? What is that all about? If last poster is shown as a mouseover, I will never see it. One of the things I LOVE about this site is the ability to disable mouseover which I find extremely irritating. At other forums, I can't disable mouseover and I don't frequent other sites that much because of this. So, I will not be turning on mouseover here so I can see last poster information on the postlist page if that is instituted. I didn't mind the messiness when the last poster was shown next to the OP in the topic column.

I ALWAYS look at the last poster column every time I access postlist page and I navigate this site from postlist so I am accessing it a lot and always looking to see who the last poster is. I decide from the name whether or not I want to go to the thread at that time or not. Now, I don't have this important information. I can see from the color of the envelope if there have been posts since I last visited the thread but I need to see last poster also. Depending on who the last poster is, I might immediately go to the thread (especially if I have been helping someone and I see that person is the last poster with a new post since I have been to the thread). Or, if the last poster is the OP, I want to know that as then I will immediately go to the thread, but if the last poster is certain folks, I might decide to visit the thread sometime later or in certain cases, I won't ever visit it again.

Lacking this important information means I will come here less now since I have been half blinded by this change which is a VERY UNFRIENDLY change. This is not a minor change. It is a major one that deprives me of important information.

Much more minor but still irritating is the fact that postlist page now has more white space and one column is not properly aligned to left. Right alignment (especially for just one column) looks strange and I have an urge to fix it every time I look at the page now.

I find it sort of sad that such a major change is being done because of a few folks who access the site on a cell phone. I would have thought that Justin would have a special form of the site for cell phone users.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:30:59 EDT

StreetSpirit :

said by Angelo_ :

i liked the old format

I wholeheartedly agree.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:56:27 EDT

TomS_ : I personally have 1920 horizontal pixels to play with, so I personally wouldnt mind being able to have a column dedicated to the last poster of a thread. I can spare a few pixels for said purpose. ;-)

Without it, it makes it hard to glance and see whether or not a thread I have posted to in the past has new posters.

That is, of course, without learning about other methods to determine the same information.

But sometimes it is also interesting to know *who* was the last poster, rather than whether or not I am still the last poster.

In summary, I miss it - greatly. :-)

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:52:48 EDT

VR Laura : *object*

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:28:23 EDT

MorWired :

But there are uses for seeing the last post user. For example, if someone is a known troll and they're the last poster, I'm not interested in seeing the thread at the moment, conversely, if someone whose opinion I truly respect posts, then I'd want to see the thread right away. Or if you're involved in a discussion with a particular member, then seeing that they replied is an important bit of information.

This is why I'd also like to see it on the "threads you've posted in" page. I'd like to see more of this information, not less, or none. :(

BTW, the asterisk with the mouse-over mini-user page is pretty cool. But that shouldn't have to replace the other feature, should it?
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:22:56 EDT

Wolfie00 : I found that the "last poster" information is very useful once you get to know the regulars on a given forum and I rely on it all the time. I don't really care where it appears as long as it appears somewhere. Actually I think one could argue that in many cases it's more important information than the name of the thread starter, which stays constant for the duration of the thread.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:17:29 EDT

justin : well, you still don't need the "last" username, because any topics you have posted to get blue arrows before the last-updated date, if they have new replies since you last opened them?

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:13:09 EDT

jfmezei : Sorry, I don't want to lears a gaizzlion different hidden pages I don't know about. I go to a forum, get the list of topics and want to decide on a single page which onces I should open (I then open each in a separate tab, which means I have to have javacript disabled otherwise it won't let me post because too many links already opened (those links to tell how many readers/posters in a thread).

I am old school, much prefer newsgroups to these HTML based forums.

I can't ask you to shape your service for me. It's your web site and you do as you wish.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:57:25 EDT

justin : Someone elsewhere posted:

"Knowing the last poster was very useful to me to see if amnyone had replied to topics I had last posted to. "

I'm always interested to see what unusual ways people have got used to to find information but this is a puzzle: the page »/postlist shows which topics have been replied to "that you last post to", and the blue arrow shows updates to topics you are reading, so I'm not sure why the last poster info was anything useful?

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:53:39 EDT

justin :

said by Turbocpe :

Justin, is this why the postlist, under the forum column, is right-adjusted? Or is it not suppose to be that way? Looks a bit out of place and adds more whitespace.

It doesn't add any more white space, what was left adjusted is now right adjusted in that column. It just looks different..

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:50:09 EDT

Turbocpe :

said by Angelo_ :

said by justin :

I might remove "last" and put in in a pop-out over the date. Evidently "by ..." does not need its own column so there is even less reason for "last poster" to need it, and since it is cluttered I'll just put it in a mouse over..

The reason for fiddling with this layout at all is to give more space to the topic title for browsers with less horizontal screen space such as the iphone browser. Trim off the un-necessary fat basically.

can't you detect os / browser versions and display special pages just for those sites?? like gmail does it... really simple to do :/

I was wondering about that myself. When I used the iPhone, websites such as CNN automatically displayed their "mobile" version without any user interaction.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:19:22 EDT

Angelo_ :

can't you detect os / browser versions and display special pages just for those sites?? like gmail does it... really simple to do :/

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:17:29 EDT

Angelo_ : i liked the old format

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:14:18 EDT

Turbocpe : Justin, is this why the postlist, under the forum column, is right-adjusted? Or is it not suppose to be that way? Looks a bit out of place and adds more whitespace.

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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:50:43 EDT

jfmezei : I always scan the "last poster" column. If my ISP's staff have just posted to some thread, I know it is worth reading.

If it is a thread I have recently participated in, re-updating the list of threads and seeing my name being replaced by another person's tells me there is additional content to read.

And when you get to know the regulars in a forum, you can tell if one has recently participated in a thread of not.

Obviously we can't telel the operators how to run their web site. Just wish this were done as newsgroups where we could each have our own GUI and not be bothered by cumbersome HTML.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:42:44 EDT

Just Bob :

said by Gizy :

Are you talking about this?
This is nearly impossible to read, probably because it's so close together now. The old format was much easier to read.

Yes it is hard to read...at least for these old eyes. ;)
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:37:15 EDT

Gizy : And for those of us who don't allow mouseovers on the site? But did look to see who last posted on something.....

And with all due respect, I realize it's your site, you can do what you want, but how many hits are you getting from browsers like the iPhone to warrant such a drastic format change? If it's really to get more spacing for the titles, and I would assume the date something was last updated, then why not most the who posted last to the last column on the right. The it doesn't take up room for the less horizontal screen browsers and those of us who actually look at the column can still use it.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:20:46 EDT

Mashiki : Ya far too cluttered, 2:20 am and I'm half asleep I nearly went cross-eyed. .

Really Nixing 'last post' would be just fine by me.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:16:12 EDT

Turbocpe : Yikes. It looks too "busy" with that information/links being so close together.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:08:55 EDT

dvd536 :

said by justin :

I am still playing around but I don't think "last poster" deserves its own column. Hard to see why a column of last usernames needs to be scanned vertically..

Why not just nix it altogether? if one wants to see who last posted they can click the little "e" thing or hit end on a thread without an e.
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:08:28 EDT

justin : I might remove "last" and put in in a pop-out over the date. Evidently "by ..." does not need its own column so there is even less reason for "last poster" to need it, and since it is cluttered I'll just put it in a mouse over..

The reason for fiddling with this layout at all is to give more space to the topic title for browsers with less horizontal screen space such as the iphone browser. Trim off the un-necessary fat basically.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:51:58 EDT

removed :

said by justin :

I am still playing around but I don't think "last poster" deserves its own column. Hard to see why a column of last usernames needs to be scanned vertically..

Is it possible to move it further to the right at all? It's all bunched together at the moment.

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:51:05 EDT

removed : Yeah, it is a bit cluttered and difficult to follow.

*ob..no, wait. *sign*

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:48:18 EDT

justin : I am still playing around but I don't think "last poster" deserves its own column. Hard to see why a column of last usernames needs to be scanned vertically..

Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:23:56 EDT

MorWired :

said by Gizy :

This is nearly impossible to read, probably because it's so close together now. The old format was much easier to read.

Agreed. Actually, I'd like to see the "last post by" column also displayed on the page of threads you've replied to, that would be very helpful as well.

Although, as with other things, I'm sure we could get used to it, if we really had to. (That said by someone who still scrolls to the bottom of a thread for the 4 navigation buttons that used to be there, as opposed to the admittedly much more convenient centrally placed floating ones -- some habits/preferences are most difficult to break.)
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Re: last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:52:05 EDT

Gizy : Are you talking about this?
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This is nearly impossible to read, probably because it's so close together now. The old format was much easier to read.

last: tag

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:31:04 EDT

StreetSpirit : Is there any possible way to make this a user preference (perhaps for premium users)? I really enjoyed the previous method, especially when using larger fonts.

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Thanks in advance,
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