moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to BF69
Re: Easy to navigate
said by BF69  :well most HD movies on XBLX are 6 GB even with a 10 Mbps connection you're looking at about an hour and 20 minutes. O.k. I'll take the example of where I live.
Netflix - wait about a day or 2 to get the movies in the mail.
Blockbuster - I have one about 2 to 3 miles away. Takes me about 10 minutes to get there. Takes about 30 minutes to browse and go through the line (if they have the move I want) and then add another 10 to get home. Get home and prep any food I want to have during the show. That's about an hour. Add to that another 20 minutes for quick drop off. One hour and 10 minutes.
I'll take the download. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :said by Matt :I don't rent movies from the XBM because my XBox doesn't have a HD, but my understanding is you CANNOT watch them as they are downloading. You have to download them 100% before watching. I've only spoken to one person (of dubious technical knowledge at that) who was complaining about it. But based on the behavior of smaller downloads I've done (game previews, movie trailers) I would say he was right, you have to wait until the download is complete. If it takes less time to download a movie than it takes to go to the video store then it is worth it. Less gas to waste and not having to get dressed and find parking equals a win situation. well most HD movies on XBLX are 6 GB even with a 10 Mbps connection you're looking at about an hour and 20 minutes. |
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hulber
join:2004-03-19
New York, NY
 ·RCN CABLE
 ·Vonage
| reply to jester121
said by jester121 :Plus no showers to take! You don't even have to get out of bed, if you sleep. |
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to Smith6612
said by Smith6612 :10Mbps plus enough bandwidth left over to handle some light network load if anything, and some overhead included. More like 12Mbps would be needed on the download. That depends... Powerboost would play quite a positive role in this type of environment. Lower sustained speeds later on in the download, but a nice big chunk at the beginning.
said by MrMoody :No kidding, that approaches 10 Mb continuous. Imagine everyone all doing 10 Mb for 2 hours straight during prime time. The bandwidth apocalypse is now. Not if Cable companies are actually upgrading to Docsis 3 like they say they are...
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC | reply to ReVeLaTeD
I said personal preference...there is no discussion. |
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MrMoody
But the Grinch ... did Not.
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | reply to Smith6612
No kidding, that approaches 10 Mb continuous. Imagine everyone all doing 10 Mb for 2 hours straight during prime time. The bandwidth apocalypse is now.
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Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
united state | reply to tiger72
10Mbps plus enough bandwidth left over to handle some light network load if anything, and some overhead included. More like 12Mbps would be needed on the download. |
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to Smith6612
you'd need 10mbps+, to watch the 9GB movie unbuffered in its entirety, i believe.
Here's the thing:
If Sony pushes their video at higher bitrates you may just see ISPs be forced to openly address bandwidth for once.
When people (in this case their target market, and not just power-users like us here) start complaining that the movies that they're renting are taking FOREVER to download, have buffering problems, and that it's their ISP's fault, the ISP will either have to offer better speeds, or they'll have to come clean on data caps.
Either way, I see it as a win. ISPs can afford data caps when the people who are hurt are the unprofitable power-users like most of us here, but ISPs canNOT afford to lose the mainstream customers who just want to rent movies from XBL, netflix streaming, or Sony Video Store.
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Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
united state | reply to Cod
If the videos are going to be in high definition, you'd better hope that the download servers and your connection is running fast enough for you to watch it right away. Pulling 9GB if that's the file size for a 2 hour movie is a LOT of speed needed. |
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ReVeLaTeD
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join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA | reply to Cod
Let's not get into that discussion kids. Some TVs are great on 1080i, some are great on 720p. My plasma leans towards 720p and I'm fine with that until (unless) I upgrade. |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| reply to Matt
said by Matt :said by Cod :said by tiger72 :On the 360 you can watch while it downloads. All 360 HD movies are 720p... maybe the PS3 ones are compressed 1080i/p? If they are all 1080 i/p, I'd rent/purchase movies & TV shows in a heartbeat... Why do you care if it's 1080i? Personal preference... More pixels on the screen = higher resolution. I run my games in 1080 too if its an option over 720. |
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ptrowski
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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| reply to Matt
said by Matt :said by tiger72 :watch as you d/l is available on 360: » forums.xbox.com/8324575/ShowPost.aspxDo I have to wait for my download to complete before watching it?
No. You can start watching some videos before they have finished downloading. After starting a video download, watch for a notification that says the video is ready to play, then press the Xbox Guide button on your controller. If you miss the notification, select your partially downloaded video from your active download list or from the video area on the Media blade. Fast forward, reverse, and skip can’t be used until the video has finished downloading. All playback commands are supported after the content has been completely downloaded. Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps my buddy downloaded a movie that you couldn't watch as it downloaded. You can watch while it downloads, but depending on your connection you could watch the movie and then get the buffering come into play. That happened once with me.
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Matt
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| reply to Cod
said by Cod :said by tiger72 :On the 360 you can watch while it downloads. All 360 HD movies are 720p... maybe the PS3 ones are compressed 1080i/p? If they are all 1080 i/p, I'd rent/purchase movies & TV shows in a heartbeat... Why do you care if it's 1080i? |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to tiger72
said by tiger72 :watch as you d/l is available on 360: » forums.xbox.com/8324575/ShowPost.aspxDo I have to wait for my download to complete before watching it?
No. You can start watching some videos before they have finished downloading. After starting a video download, watch for a notification that says the video is ready to play, then press the Xbox Guide button on your controller. If you miss the notification, select your partially downloaded video from your active download list or from the video area on the Media blade. Fast forward, reverse, and skip can’t be used until the video has finished downloading. All playback commands are supported after the content has been completely downloaded. Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps my buddy downloaded a movie that you couldn't watch as it downloaded. |
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tiger72
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to MOTO6809
watch as you d/l is available on 360:
»forums.xbox.com/8324575/ShowPost.aspx
Do I have to wait for my download to complete before watching it?
No. You can start watching some videos before they have finished downloading. After starting a video download, watch for a notification that says the video is ready to play, then press the Xbox Guide button on your controller. If you miss the notification, select your partially downloaded video from your active download list or from the video area on the Media blade. Fast forward, reverse, and skip can’t be used until the video has finished downloading. All playback commands are supported after the content has been completely downloaded.
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-United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara |
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MOTO6809
join:2007-11-05
Springfield, MA
| reply to Cod
said by Cod :said by tiger72 :On the 360 you can watch while it downloads. All 360 HD movies are 720p... maybe the PS3 ones are compressed 1080i/p? If they are all 1080 i/p, I'd rent/purchase movies & TV shows in a heartbeat... I just checked out a couple of trailers in 1080 and they look great.
I like the feature of being able to watch as you download them. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to moonpuppy
Plus no showers to take! |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Matt
said by Matt :I don't rent movies from the XBM because my XBox doesn't have a HD, but my understanding is you CANNOT watch them as they are downloading. You have to download them 100% before watching. I've only spoken to one person (of dubious technical knowledge at that) who was complaining about it. But based on the behavior of smaller downloads I've done (game previews, movie trailers) I would say he was right, you have to wait until the download is complete. If it takes less time to download a movie than it takes to go to the video store then it is worth it. Less gas to waste and not having to get dressed and find parking equals a win situation. |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| reply to tiger72
said by tiger72 :On the 360 you can watch while it downloads. All 360 HD movies are 720p... maybe the PS3 ones are compressed 1080i/p? If they are all 1080 i/p, I'd rent/purchase movies & TV shows in a heartbeat... |
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tiger72
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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On the 360 you can watch while it downloads.
All 360 HD movies are 720p... maybe the PS3 ones are compressed 1080i/p? |
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