Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC |  Return On Investment?
If Embarq knocks off $2.50 a month from my bill (splitting the estimated $5 they make off of selling my data), then it wouldn't be such a big deal. Alas, if anything, my bill has done nothing but go up and my service has done nothing but dwindled. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | all ILECs prices ago up faster than cable. You gotta add in the "other taxes and fees" |
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atangel
Now What??
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join:2002-02-18
Bronx, NY
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I agree. Listen, if my surfing has value, then they should share that asset with me if they are going to profit from it. After all, in my mind, it is a lot like a copyright. Your right to my "Asset" (words or surfing habits) is contingent on you paying me my share.
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DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
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join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC | reply to Hazy Arc
Maybe they are, by not raising your bill to cover the NebuAd fees.  |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to atangel
Or, we can sell your information, raise your bill anyway, and keep the profits! Don't like it, well, too bad, use some other ISP! (No other choices, or they're doing it too? Oh well, we don't care!) |
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atangel
Now What??
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join:2002-02-18
Bronx, NY
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Then they aren't (that's like saying your boss gave you raise because he didn't charge you for the electricity!).
It has to be a transaction both parties enter into knowingly, you pay 50/month or 52.50/Month if you opt out. That way, they can determine the value and either up the amount or lower it. If no-one participates at the 2.50 rate, and they think there is money to be made for the corporation, then they will have to offer more.
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Who says it has to be agreed upon boy both parties?
You? |
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atangel
Now What??
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Bronx, NY
| said by hottboiinnc  :Who says it has to be agreed upon boy both parties? You? If it is to be an honest financial transaction, that's what it should be. They derive value from my actions, when I already pay for a service, then I should be allowed to participate and also derive value from my actions. Saying simply that they are not going to raise the price (this is in response to Datadoc, btw), does not constitute a fair trade. They want to be capitalists? Well we should demand the same right. I wonder how much money they (whomever they are) make off our data while we get nothing in return.
Its what is called an Intangible Asset. I just think we should be paid for our contribution! 
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
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1 edit | reply to atangel
I LOVE YOUR IDEA (well, okay, I like it a lot). Here's why --
it's totally and completely "opt in"
1. It's informed -- if you opt in to this, you're getting a check, so chances are that you really do know that your data is being sold rather than something going on behind your back
2. It's optional -- if you don't opt in, you still get to have Internet service. One of my big fears is that ISP's will make this "Opt In" by saying that customers can take it or leave it, but taking it is a condition for service.
3. It provides a competition angle. If you ISP doesn't pay you enough, then opt out and opt-in with someone else that will pay you for your clickstream data or your data stream.
Perhaps you weren't trying to be serious, and I'm not sure that I'm completely serious either. Someone in the ad business ought to look at this thread and tell us if this idea has any legs and why or why not! Some from the privacy angle will also have to tell us why it's a good/bad idea.
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atangel
Now What??
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join:2002-02-18
Bronx, NY
1 edit | Um, no, actually, I was serious. LOL!
It started when I was telling people that free software/spyware was not free... that those companies track your movements and sell the data (that they were working for these companies for nothing and selling their privacy for free). 
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