JBwarrior
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Re: Yes, we got them 150 miles to the north, --Madison Wisconsin
I live on the southwest side of Madison, and I have been filling a bag a day for about 2 weeks now! I live on a greenway so I am able to post it away from my garden. It helps if surrounding neighbors put one up, too. I think they are here to stay, just like the mosquitos! From now on I will always ask before I plant something new, "Do Japanese Beetles like to munch on this???" |
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Warzau
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Naperville, IL
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Re: Anyone else dealing with beetles? WT fudge
It is finally starting to subside here west of Chicago.
I did the 1-2. Spray the all trees and shrubs and rose. Then 2 weeks later I spread the Grub X. Thankfull in the morn I have black birds in the Elm eating the ones that are still alive. |
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shercando
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Madison, WI
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Yes, we got them 150 miles to the north, --Madison Wisconsin
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Wisconsin has millions of ash trees now threatened. They are a favorite hardwood for furniture here. Oh well 
Here is a shot I took last week of a Japanese Beetle on a white rose at Madison's Olbrich Botanical Gardens in the Rose Garden. Pretty but dangerous killers as are the ash borers. |
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wavguy2003
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Saint Charles, IL
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Re: Anyone else dealing with beetles? WT fudge
From what I've read you don't want to squish them. It attracts even more.
I had an Arborist out last week and he said the beetles are normally all gone by mid August. As long as the tree is well established, by this time it's usually stored up more than enough food to last the winter so losing leaves now won't hurt it. He did suggest the systemic treatment of soaking the ground around the base with a wide spectrum insecticide. It gets drawn up into the tree and by next spring will be in the leaves. When the little buggers feed they die. He called it a "soil quench" and another called it an "injection".
He said the best time to do that is late fall before the ground freezes.
It made feel a lot better knowing the tree is OK. |
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StepR
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Elgin, IL
| reply to wavguy2003
said by wavguy2003  :The little bastards showed up in St.Charles this year. About two weeks ago. They devastated my river birch. Never saw a one until this year. Did some spraying of my bushes and lower section of the tree with a solution of Sevin. Works great. They drop off and *DIE*. Just don't squish them. It attracts more. I've started the grub-ex and also will be buying a few bottles of the Bayer Advanced. To late for this year but next year I'll be prepared. Another board member suggested making a tea of squished bugs and spraying them on the leaves, on the theory that an animal does not want to be a cannibal. Another organic solution is to make a tea of cayenne pepper and detergent. I am just wary of using a poison on or near my edibles. I will use the nematodes to kill off next year's larvae. The bugs have spread to a rose bush and just started on the birch tree. |
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wavguy2003
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Saint Charles, IL
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The little bastards showed up in St.Charles this year. About two weeks ago. They devastated my river birch. Never saw a one until this year. Did some spraying of my bushes and lower section of the tree with a solution of Sevin. Works great. They drop off and *DIE*. Just don't squish them. It attracts more.
I've started the grub-ex and also will be buying a few bottles of the Bayer Advanced. To late for this year but next year I'll be prepared. |
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aln4
join:2004-01-08
Algonquin, IL | reply to gary0922
guess it's really far west and really far south in Illinois.
»pest.ceris.purdue.edu/searchmap.···=INBPAZA
I vote for turning our state Light Blue as quickly as we can! I really hate these things. |
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gary0922
join:2000-05-30
Wheaton, IL | reply to Dan Man
I guess it's really far west and really far south in Illinois.
»pest.ceris.purdue.edu/searchmap.···=INBPAZA |
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StepR
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join:2000-11-06
Elgin, IL
1 edit | reply to Warzau
Attack the larvae now
The insects especially enjoy eating the leaves from birch, linden and fruit trees, roses and purple-leafed plants, she added. They lay their eggs in grass, and grubs hatch in June and July and feed off the lawn for a year. »www.suburbanchicagonews.com/cour···.article
They are attacking my hops vines! I am ordering my nematodes now.
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Dan Man
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Re: Anyone else dealing with beetles? WT fudge
said by gary0922 :Unfortunately, Japanese beetles recently reached eastern Illinois. They started our in New Jersey in 1916 and have been moving west ever since. We had them in Pennsylvania in the 1960s. I've lived in Illinois for 35 years and did not see one until 2007. They still have not reached far western and downstate Illinois. Actually, these have been in the Bloomington area for a few years now. My Mom has been battling them. |
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aln4
join:2004-01-08
Algonquin, IL
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I'll have to try the orthomax hose sprayer. I have mixed thoughts about the bags. Yea, they do seem to attract more of the little devils, but I have also taken about 8000 of them out of food chain in the last two weeks!
They have really devoured my neighbors trees in their front yard. I thought maybe it was a really early changing of the leaves until I went and did a close up look and saw that there is nothing but the veins of the leaves left. And this is a 25 foot tall, 20 foot wide tree. Very sad. I think it's time to put effort into getting rid of these things, just like the ash beetle. |
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Warzau
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Naperville, IL
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slashman it wouldn't have worked. I applied it earlier this year, since I have issues with leaf miners, but the Japanese Beetles still made a meal of my elm. Also they were starting to work on my crab apple trees. I finally used the orthomax hose sprayer and voila they are dropping like flies. I need to monitor it still. I see the little bastards flying during the day. I did notice they tried to land on the trees I treated and then flew away or the ones that stayed dropped off and died on the sidewalk. |
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slashman
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Batavia, IL
| reply to gary0922
I got them suckers too. Eating on my birch tree and locust trees. Even got some on roses and other garden plants.
I have used this bayer product successfully in the past. Gets into the leaves and then kills the beetles when they eat. Unfortunately I forgot to applied late this year and it will probably have little effect.
My wife did alot of research after they practically devoured my birch tree a couple of years ago. The bug bags are definitely bad. The pheromones attract every beetle in the neighborhood to your yard!
Good news is I think they will only last until mid August then they die off. |
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StepR
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join:2000-11-06
Elgin, IL
| reply to Warzau
War of the Roses: Beetle vs. Nematode
»online.wsj.com/public/article_pr···153.html
I, as does the author, have prized raspberry bushes, from which I picked a quart of berries every night last week. I just noticed the beetles by the raspberry bush this week. I do not want to use poisons on my berries, but the author explores using nematodes, the beetle's natural predator.
I'd been looking at the Web site of Gardens Alive!, a garden supply company in Indiana. They were advertising "Grub-Away Nematodes" which the site claimed were superior to other varieties. "While other beneficial nematodes wait passively for prey, ours move up to 10 times farther and much deeper into the soil," it explained. "Grub-Away Nematodes also have a special 'tooth' that burrows into their prey, allowing faster control of pests."
What worried me wasn't that my million nematodes were toothless; about half of them, in fact, were of the same strain as "Grub-Away." But Gardens Alive! claimed that a garden area of 200 to 300 square feet required 10 million nematodes. Our garden alone is larger than that, never mind the lawn. What if the one million I had sprayed weren't nearly enough? (A spokeswoman for Gardener's Supply later told me that its nematodes "multiply," so fewer are needed.)
Anybody else try this organic method? |
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gary0922
join:2000-05-30
Wheaton, IL
| reply to Warzau
Unfortunately, Japanese beetles recently reached eastern Illinois. They started our in New Jersey in 1916 and have been moving west ever since. We had them in Pennsylvania in the 1960s. I've lived in Illinois for 35 years and did not see one until 2007. They still have not reached far western and downstate Illinois.
They are almost impossible to deal with. One solution is to treat your lawn in the Spring to kill the beetle grubs before they emerge as adult beetles. However, unless everyone in your neighborhood also treats their lawns, you will still have Japanese beetles. The beetle bags are good in theory but they actually attract more Japanese beetles to your yard than would otherwise come so the bags may actually make the situation worse.
Sevin kills them almost immediately. The weaker insecticidal soaps and pyrethrin do not work. Sevin also kills many other insects including honeybees. It also turns roses brown.
Another method is to fill a coffee can 1/3 full with water and add dish washing soap. Then, go out to the plant, hold the can under the flower or branch with the Japanese beetle, tap the branch and they will fall in to a soapy death. I have captured 100s this way.
There are also powders which can be dusted on the plant but then you have dusty looking plants and the dust wears off in a couple weeks or less.
Right now I am trying a Bayer systemic product for roses but I got a late start so it may not work. This product is mixed with water and poured onto the ground next to the rose plant. It is taken up through the plant and supposedly protects against Japanese beetles.
Another method for roses is to place netting over the roses like the Morton Arboretum did when the cicadas came out last year and chewed on the tender twigs of some plants. However, to enjoy your roses, you will have to take off the netting, admire your roses, and put the netting back on.
I hate Japanese beetles. |
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VegasMan
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join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL
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While driving back from Vegas this last week I did my part to help kill these things off. From the Iowa/Illinois line on I-88 to about 10 miles of I-39 these things are as thick molasses.
You would see them come at you in packs and when they hit the windshield it sounded like a heavy rain, I was killing 20-30 at a time and I had to stop twice just to scrub the windshield to get them off. I still haven't got all of them off the front of the car, I plan on doing that tonight at the car wash when it's empty.
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In need of a Vegas vacation.
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Chinabound
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Antioch, IL
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No beetles up here that I've seen, but they would be difficult to notice while I am running away from all the mosquitoes. |
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Jon
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Lisle, IL | reply to aln4
That's a lot of beetles! I certainly haven't seen anything like that here. |
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Warzau
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Naperville, IL
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That's a full bag!!! |
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aln4
join:2004-01-08
Algonquin, IL
| reply to Warzau
Thought I would post a few pictures showing how many of these things I am dealing with.
The first one is the amount in the bag after only five days! The second one shows how full the bag is. The third one shows the nasty things still working on killing my purple plum tree. Insecticide is the next step. |
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