recneps
join:2006-06-24
Whitby, ON
1 edit | reply to TOPDAWG
Re: Bell's upcoming plans for Wholesalers!
said by TOPDAWG  :So that mean you'd be forced to do caps on everyone? So no more unlimited? Yup, and those caps would be whatever bell sets. (Probably like 10gb, since they offer 60.)
CAIP should see if they can get government support to build a fibre network. |
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HiVolt
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Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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This will have to go before the CRTC also, no doubt... Bell simply cannot impose their greedy, ass-backwards ways onto the wholesale ISP's...
Throttling is one thing, and they will probably lose that battle, so they are trying to bring the next wave of ideas how to cripple the independents...
Pathetic...
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Acanac Inc
Premium
join:2007-03-05
Mississauga, ON
1 edit | That is correct. Who knows what the over charges will be. This is Bell so one can assume it won't be cheap. For us this is ridicules. We plan to offer IPTV in the near future and this will put an end to any such attempts.
Not to mention the Good will we will loose with our client base. |
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Cyborg994
join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
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It really (again) puts reseller as a disadvantage, as they will have to bill for overusage, and hand over that money to bell... Another way to prevent differentiation of service.
At least the 5 mbit service cannot be touched, as it's CRTC regulated. I hope this will ring a bell (pun intended) somewhere that will show that those speeds have to be regulated as well.
Also it shows the bias that bell has toward it's sympatico service, as they already do in a few ways :
- no band rate to pay for sympatico subscribers
- access to 7 and 16 mbit speed
Really this is a sad day for Internet access in Canada. |
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | reply to Acanac Inc
Well with 360 being used a PVR boxes and now PS3 you can brake 60 GB's a month in a legal way. It's no more a debate about it's just people downloading shit for free anymore. |
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Quake110
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON | reply to R0CKY
The small ISPs can't be at the mercy of Bell anymore. They should form a consortium and build their own network.
Don't know if its feasible but minister Prentice is being controlled by the big corporations and the american movie industry. |
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Acanac Inc
Premium
join:2007-03-05
Mississauga, ON | reply to Cyborg994
From my understanding the 5Mbps service will be affected. This was made clear to us. |
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Cyborg994
join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
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One more thing, as I read it they are offering this outside of their agreement with the CRTC, so on a purely contractual basis.
Also i'm pretty sure that they will then try to use theses contracts to show that they don't need to be regulated for anything else then the 5 mbit, since they provide service...
At least now we know what these DPI boxes were installed for... |
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Cyborg994
join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC | reply to Acanac Inc
Wow, if that's not a CRTC rule violation, I wonder what is... |
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oh LOOK
@videotron.ca | reply to Acanac Inc
Anyone have a letter/email on this from Bell to post online? |
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jpabboud
join:2005-12-12
Montreal, QC | reply to Acanac Inc
Have you heard if it's applicable to HSA or just GAS ? |
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j3richo
join:2007-12-08
Gatineau, QC
·Acanac
 ·Videotron
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said by Acanac Inc :From my understanding the 5Mbps service will be affected. This was made clear to us. what??? this is absolute BULLSHIT! it's not enough they want to fuck us on 10M+! how can they change a service we already payed for? are they going to claim the same "this change does not require ISPs to change anything in their networks" BS? This is unbelievable |
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j3richo
join:2007-12-08
Gatineau, QC
·Acanac
·Videotron
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how will the CRTC possibly tolerate this? they are literally trying to destroy the reputation of all ISPs (it's not discrimination! we treat our customers the same way!!) what happens if they change 5M and 3rd party ISPs have all their customers revolt because the contract and features have been changed?? |
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Fire642
@teksavvy.com
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quote:
The small ISPs can't be at the mercy of Bell anymore. They should form a consortium and build their own network.
This would be impossible as it would require BILLIONS. Small ISPs don't have that kind of currency. I am guessing some revolutionary new tech will have to be implemented which bypasses Bell 100%, but knowing Bell as the snakes they are would try to destroy that as well.
Sigh, very depressing. |
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | reply to jpabboud
Since 99.9 percent of all subscribers are connected to a central office not a remote when is bell going to get real line cards for the central office that can support 16 to 20 megabit dsl? |
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sMURF
join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON | reply to R0CKY
I knew this was going to happen. Fuck you Bell.
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Cyborg994
join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC | reply to R0CKY
I really hope ISP's don't have the same clause in their contracts as cell phone users... |
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Doci
Toothless Fairy
join:2003-02-01 | reply to R0CKY
I don't believe this company. |
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morisato
join:2008-03-16
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Luckily Since you don;t use bell as a transit provider i hope it can be made Clear Your actual usage is going thru Peer1 or Cognet.. and Not thru Bell. etc.. so usage based billing shouldn;t exist for a thirdparty company merely using last mile to connect to customers. and even if they do enable adsl2+ for everyone not many C/os actually have the equipment anyways except in large citys ;(
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bryanviper
join:2002-10-12
Toronto, CAN
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Wow this is crazy, Ok rocky im going to run a Cat6 cable from your servers downtown to my computer... its the only way 
But really what is this BS?! They need to just tell bell NO and take over all last mile connections so they cant do stupid crap like this. |
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