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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

$ 4 bb intrnet in fiber building, replace proposed cable mdm

I am thinking of replacing a proposed premium tier cable modem with something possibly better. The building my customer is moving into already has fiber to its basement (demarc point) from multiple providers, so I might as well investigate that asset. I am his amateur IT guy.

How low do business grade (this isn't FIOS) fiber internet plans go per month? Do they offer per GB pricing (about 50GB to 200GB a month)? Something tells me they won't allow a 95th percentile customer to only buy 1-4 mbit/s per month, or they will make a loop charge to ensure they pull out atleast a couple T1s worth of $ out of me price wise. SLA is irrelevant (replacing a cable modem here). I hope to save on installation cost since I hope the business bandwidth market isn't greedy enough to charge a $30K dig up the street installation charge to a building that already has their lines going into it. There are no current subscribers to the fiber providers in this building.

My price range end at about $250 per month on the maximum.

The providers the building has are ATT, Verizon Business, Cablevision Lightpath and Level 3 but I'm asking for ball park/typical prices, not quotes.

Basement is filled with ADC equipment and a couple other manufacturers whose names I forgot, and from my 5 minute observation, ILEC T3s (coax), and other providers' Metro Ethernet (1000SX connector) (no customer pickup tho, remember no one is in this building). To imagine the sight, there are also 100s of copper T1s (I'm counting line cards, not slots), all powered and glowing, but no service on them I presume (no one in the building). A T1 is out of the question due to horrible $/sustained or burstable mbit.
JoelC707

join:2002-07-09
Tucson, AZ
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Re: $ 4 bb intrnet in fiber building, replace proposed cable mdm

In your case a T1 would be a step down since you don't care about the reliability or inclusion of SLA's. I personally would investigate staying with the cable modem given your price cap. There should be minimal installation charges and loop charges since the equipment terminates in the basement of the building. "Lit" buildings as they are usually called are the ideal place to be, or at worst next to them so they can just run a line underground to your building.

Given your choices of carrier you mentioned, I would investigate the Cablevision Lightpath service. They tend to be fairly cheap on price but big on bandwidth. I recall a few people here using them with no real complaints that I saw. Is Cablevision the same provider of your cable modem service by chance? If so they may even recommend you switch since there is fiber coming in from them, they may not have coax coming in.

If that list of providers is not the complete list, look and see if Cognet is on there. Cognet is the Walmart of bandwidth providers. They are the lowest price out there at something like $4 a meg (not sure what the minimum commit is though). Sure they have their shortcomings (just search this site and you'll see, there was even a news article on them posted not too long ago) but for someone coming from and happy with cable modem service, I think they would be the perfect fit for you.

sporkme
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join:2000-07-01
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I don't think you're going to find anything there for under $250/month.

Lightpath is not cheap, you know what T1s cost and metro-ethernet, while cheap in comparison to other high-bandwidth options is going to be more.

Cogent is cheap, but the minimum commit will exceed your budget.
johnsp

join:2001-02-07
Syosset, NY
10mb of Lightpath was around $1600/month for 1 yr commit if the building is lit already. At 1-4 MB, you'll probably only find business cable, FIOS or high end DSL. Some areas do offer
up to 7mb DSL.
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