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Jeffrey
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Re: WHAT?

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I think it's more of a favor to the RIAA and MPAA myself.
That may very well be the case, ("save the children" argument turned into copyright protection/enforcement for the RIAA and MPAA), however, the issue here becomes censorship, enforcement, and relative control of a resource.

The subscribers of those ISPs that recently (or somewhat recently in AOLs case) had their alt.binaries.* hierarchy removed now either can go to a 3rd party service, or less likely, select another broadband provider in their area.

The question now becomes what is next? I'm not advocating the use of Usenet for anything illegal, but a sweeping removal of the entire alt.binaries.* groups removes good and bad. Using a rocket to kill a mosquito, if I may loosely borrow that philosophy for a second.

So, what's the next bunch of groups to go? Rec.music.*? Alt.politics.*?

Pop open your news reader and filter the alt.binaries.* hierarchy and see just exactly how many valid, legal groups are now restricted. Granted, they may be in the minority if you want to take all of the sex groups out of the argument, but none the less, they are there.

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
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said by Jeffrey See Profile

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
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Not long. Maybe a year.

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said by stomp357:

said by Jeffrey See Profile

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
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Not long. Maybe a year.
I doubt that The only reason the isps caved on this is what was reported they don't make any money off their newsgroups so why fight it. They AG. knew that so he didn't go after the usenet providers.

The bigger threat to newsgroups is the riaa usenet.com lawsuit.


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said by Jeffrey:

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
Giganews appears to have already started to do this.. (Though QUIETLY)
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said by JRW2:

said by Jeffrey:

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
Giganews appears to have already started to do this.. (Though QUIETLY)
Wow.

I have Newshosting, but I haven't heard any talk (or seen anything) that would lead me to believe they're doing it, or about to do it.
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said by Jeffrey:

said by JRW2:

said by Jeffrey:

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
Giganews appears to have already started to do this.. (Though QUIETLY)
Wow.

I have Newshosting, but I haven't heard any talk (or seen anything) that would lead me to believe they're doing it, or about to do it.
Well, without going into details..
I have had a few "Adult" newsgroups disappear, that held IMHO legal to view images. (NOT KIDDIE PORN, or anything like it!!!)
There have been several other groups that have disappeared too, with "nudist" in the name, so you can draw your own conclusions...

By disapeared, I mean that you get an error message that the newsgroup is not available when you try to get new headers..
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said by JRW2:

Well, without going into details..
I have had a few "Adult" newsgroups disappear, that held IMHO legal to view images. (NOT KIDDIE PORN, or anything like it!!!)
Ah well. I left Giganews a few years ago for other sneaky business tactics, so I'm not really surprised they did this.
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