said by MysticGogeta :

Sue? I don't know what else there is to do.

said by MysticGogeta :

Well what else is there left to do sit around and let them screw them out of any profits and crush the company? He will be faced with either raising prices or laying off workers or perhaps both.

said by hottboiinnc :

ISPs there need to do what they do here; Build out their own networks.

Just because its legal for you to use their networks you shouldnt rely on them for your business. Start building out yours and show them up.

Why cry about it? when they go and do the usage based system what are you going to do? cry about that too?

You're a business looking to make profit. They're a business looking to make profit. And Bell owns one thing you both want. The wiring between the CO and the customers homes and businesses. Stop using the wire.

It has been showen here the ILECs will crush you no matter how they spin it. Next they'll drop their price rates and go after you that way.

and hydro and gas are not communication needs. Actually people lived before they were even around.

Also Net Neutrality was never about keeping the networks so they'd be wholesaled. They were about making content on them equal. You are crying about something that does not even fit the def. about what it was meant to be.

Start being a company and build out your own network or just get out of the way.

said by hottboiinnc :

You don't need anything plugged on the ground if you do wireless like i said.

but then again why should you since you can go to the CRTC and cry that you need to lease their network because you can't build out wireless.

said by R0CKY :

Who's to say we're not doing something else? I'm talking about this particular service being serviced by a particular supplier.

Because I'm not allowing someone to be a bully makes me a whiner? I don't think so... To boot, if you looked me up you'd quickly realise I'm one of the few who are very much active in fighting for your rights! So, unless you can tell me you're also standing up to fight for your/our rights, instead of arguing for the sake of arguing, I'd consider keeping the attacks on the down-low.

I'm done here.

Rocky

said by pfak :

You do realize that Bell Canada's network was paid for by the gov't, right?

Why is it acceptable for Bell to have a free ride, but not allow others on the governments network even though they're paying for the service?

said by canucklehead :

FALSE. the provincial governments of alberta and BC poured billions of tax dollars into their infrastructures, then sold out to telus. i would assume bell was at one time a govt/crown operation as well. there is simply no way telus would exist today if they had to start from scratch. exactly when was AGT/BC tel/ EDtel pubically traded?. they were NEVER TRADED, just funded by the citizens via taxes (like CBC is now).
ALBERTA has a huge quasi govt network - SUPERNET - paid in part by my taxes, my dads taxes, my sons taxes. you really should pull you head out of your ass before typing, it just might help

said by hottboiinnc :

You don't need anything plugged on the ground if you do wireless like i said.

but then again why should you since you can go to the CRTC and cry that you need to lease their network because you can't build out wireless.

said by hottboiinnc :

ISPs there need to do what they do here; Build out their own networks.

Just because its legal for you to use their networks you shouldnt rely on them for your business. Start building out yours and show them up.

Why cry about it? when they go and do the usage based system what are you going to do? cry about that too?

You're a business looking to make profit. They're a business looking to make profit. And Bell owns one thing you both want. The wiring between the CO and the customers homes and businesses. Stop using the wire.

It has been showen here the ILECs will crush you no matter how they spin it. Next they'll drop their price rates and go after you that way.

and hydro and gas are not communication needs. Actually people lived before they were even around.

Also Net Neutrality was never about keeping the networks so they'd be wholesaled. They were about making content on them equal. You are crying about something that does not even fit the def. about what it was meant to be.

Start being a company and build out your own network or just get out of the way.

said by hottboiinnc :

Bell is not a monopoly. They have Rogers to compete against and other companies.

Again- if the ISPs can't compete and build something else out get out of the way and let Bell do what they do- service the customer.

said by hottboiinnc :

They're not a monopoly because they have competition. Rogers and Bell both compete against each other. Both offer TV, Internet, and Phone.

said by hottboiinnc :

well here is an idea- DON"T OFFER DSL OR CABLE! You won't have to use them. Also what about Sprint Canada, Teleglobe, Cogent.

They all offer backbone access. You can easily toss their backbone services behind a network and start with a WISP and start to build out.

The more you build out slowly the better off the ISP is to get away from the provider who has the network others want.

The CRTC is just Bell and Rogers' publicly funded B$@#!@. see definition »www.urbandictionary.com/define.p···m=biatch

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said by R0CKY :

Looking forward to the details at the end of the month!