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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON

reply to hottboiinnc

Re: Details...

said by hottboiinnc:

You don't need anything plugged on the ground if you do wireless like i said.

but then again why should you since you can go to the CRTC and cry that you need to lease their network because you can't build out wireless.
Who's to say we're not doing something else? I'm talking about this particular service being serviced by a particular supplier.

Because I'm not allowing someone to be a bully makes me a whiner? I don't think so... To boot, if you looked me up you'd quickly realise I'm one of the few who are very much active in fighting for your rights! So, unless you can tell me you're also standing up to fight for your/our rights, instead of arguing for the sake of arguing, I'd consider keeping the attacks on the down-low.

I'm done here.

Rocky
--
TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.


adisor19

join:2004-10-11
Reviews:
·Acanac

said by R0CKY:

said by hottboiinnc:

You don't need anything plugged on the ground if you do wireless like i said.

but then again why should you since you can go to the CRTC and cry that you need to lease their network because you can't build out wireless.
Who's to say we're not doing something else? I'm talking about this particular service being serviced by a particular supplier.

Because I'm not allowing someone to be a bully makes me a whiner? I don't think so... To boot, if you looked me up you'd quickly realise I'm one of the few who are very much active in fighting for your rights! So, unless you can tell me you're also standing up to fight for your/our rights, instead of arguing for the sake of arguing, I'd consider keeping the attacks on the down-low.

I'm done here.

Rocky
Don't bother feeding the troll Rocky. This guy obviously has no idea of what he's talking about and as you realised, he's only trying to insult you.

I for one can't wait to see what the CRTC's response to this BS move by Bell will be.

Keep up the good fight and let's hope this country won't become ruled by corporations like in the USA.

Adi

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Reviews:
·WOW Internet and..

reply to R0CKY
My rights? HA! We don't have this problem in the USA. We actually have the dereg which doesnt require the ILECs to share. So its either sink or swim.

It seems that you don't make a very good businessman though. Rule #2 - if a supplier screws you;-you don't keep going back to them. You find a way to keep your business going without them-hence finding another way to deliver your product -ie: Wireless Internet become a WISP instead of a DSL provider.

You're business would be screwed here in the US if you depended on the Bells. Also i don't see how you consider them a monopoly. They're not keeping you from having your business. ISPs lobbied your government to allow you in. You should be glad they did. Also you should be working on having your own network and start saying you are instead of "fighting". But in the long run Bell will win one way or another.

And also I'm not attacking you - i'm simply stating the facts. If you can't compete as a business man against a large company I suggest you get out while the goings getting good and sell your company to someone else that can handle it. And then go talk to The Home Depot up there and learn how to stand up to your vendors/suppliers- its not about getting someone else involved to get what you want done its about putting them in their place without laws that are not needed.



Siftbit

@teksavvy.com

That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all week.
Supposing that it's feasible these small ISP to set up their own WISP infrastructure (it's not), you wouldn't even be providing the same product since WISP is aimed at different market with different needs, uses, and expectations. If Bell owned roads and made all the taxi companies to pay exorbitant amount of money, you wouldn't tell these taxi companies to start an airline. Both modes of transportation, sure, but aimed at very different markets.
Please think a bit more before writing.


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

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yes it is possible for TekSavvy to build their own WISP out. They just don't want to like it or not they just want to leach off Bell because Gov't says they can.

And they don't seem to be as small as you make them out to be.



pfak
Bow before me for I am root
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC
Reviews:
·TELUS
·Shaw

You do realize that Bell Canada's network was paid for by the gov't, right?

Why is it acceptable for Bell to have a free ride, but not allow others on the governments network even though they're paying for the service?
--
Xenophase - British Columbia's premier online gaming community.



DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico

said by pfak:

You do realize that Bell Canada's network was paid for by the gov't, right?

Why is it acceptable for Bell to have a free ride, but not allow others on the governments network even though they're paying for the service?
That is nonsense. None of Canada's (or Rogers, for that matter) networks have been publicly funded. Both are publicly traded corporations.

And the only "government" network is DNET, which is run by the Canadian Forces. And you ain't going anywhere near that, ever.
--
Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


canucklehead

@shawcable.net

FALSE. the provincial governments of alberta and BC poured billions of tax dollars into their infrastructures, then sold out to telus. i would assume bell was at one time a govt/crown operation as well. there is simply no way telus would exist today if they had to start from scratch. exactly when was AGT/BC tel/ EDtel pubically traded?. they were NEVER TRADED, just funded by the citizens via taxes (like CBC is now).
ALBERTA has a huge quasi govt network - SUPERNET - paid in part by my taxes, my dads taxes, my sons taxes. you really should pull you head out of your ass before typing, it just might help



DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico

said by canucklehead :

FALSE. the provincial governments of alberta and BC poured billions of tax dollars into their infrastructures, then sold out to telus. i would assume bell was at one time a govt/crown operation as well. there is simply no way telus would exist today if they had to start from scratch. exactly when was AGT/BC tel/ EDtel pubically traded?. they were NEVER TRADED, just funded by the citizens via taxes (like CBC is now).
ALBERTA has a huge quasi govt network - SUPERNET - paid in part by my taxes, my dads taxes, my sons taxes. you really should pull you head out of your ass before typing, it just might help
No, you don't know the facts. This story is about BELL CANADA. It has not ever built infrastructure using government money. Telus is not part of this story.
--
Need-based health care not greed-based health care.

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