said by jwersan :

Well, without going into details.. :D
I have had a few "Adult" newsgroups disappear, that held IMHO legal to view images. (NOT KIDDIE PORN, or anything like it!!!) :uhh:

said by jwersan :

Giganews appears to have already started to do this.. (Though QUIETLY)

said by stomp357 :

I doubt that The only reason the isps caved on this is what was reported they don't make any money off their newsgroups so why fight it. They AG. knew that so he didn't go after the usenet providers.

The bigger threat to newsgroups is the riaa usenet.com lawsuit. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20812526 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:25:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20812189 DaneJasper : I wrote a response on this topic from my perspective as an ISP that you might find interesting:

»corp.sonic.net/ceo/2008/06/20/th···nternet/

-Dane]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20812189 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:07:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20812120 stomp357 :

said by Jeffrey

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
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Not long. Maybe a year. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20812120 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:49:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811475 ggultra2764 : The differences of cultural norms between the Japanese and Americans would be a major debate concerning anime and hentai. Anime and hentai are well-known for pushing the envelope in terms of questionable content, even going beyond it at some points. One well-known and controversial genre of anime called lolicon depicts childlike female characters in an erotic manner. This is also the case with shotacon which involves childlike male characters. Western countries like Canada have responded to these titles by completely banning them from distribution as they believe such content could make someone into a child molester.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811475 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:35:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811466 N3OGH : It's whatever it is in your mind, and I think that's kind of the point.

Either way, is anyone surprised a politician is trying to take credit for something he/she didn't do?
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said by TOPDAWG :

I think it's more of a favor to the RIAA and MPAA myself.

That may very well be the case, ("save the children" argument turned into copyright protection/enforcement for the RIAA and MPAA), however, the issue here becomes censorship, enforcement, and relative control of a resource.

The subscribers of those ISPs that recently (or somewhat recently in AOLs case) had their alt.binaries.* hierarchy removed now either can go to a 3rd party service, or less likely, select another broadband provider in their area.

The question now becomes what is next? I'm not advocating the use of Usenet for anything illegal, but a sweeping removal of the entire alt.binaries.* groups removes good and bad. Using a rocket to kill a mosquito, if I may loosely borrow that philosophy for a second.

So, what's the next bunch of groups to go? Rec.music.*? Alt.politics.*?

Pop open your news reader and filter the alt.binaries.* hierarchy and see just exactly how many valid, legal groups are now restricted. Granted, they may be in the minority if you want to take all of the sex groups out of the argument, but none the less, they are there.

How long before third-party news providers are forced/coerced to limit newsgroups?
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blog]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811387 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:17:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811045 Count Zero : Most likely...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811045 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:15:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811032 TOPDAWG : I think it's more of a favor to the RIAA and MPAA myself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811032 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:13:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811018 Jeffrey :

said by TOPDAWG :

The hell is with the anime girl picture?

My guess is that it's a representation of the idea of "vagueness" or "ambiguity" in terms of deciding what it is and is not offensive. It makes you think a little, sort of like many of The New Yorker covers recently.

I also could be reading waaayyy to much into it. :)

It's obvious to me at least that the stoppage of those newsgroups by those providers is nothing but a cost-cutting and back-patting measure. Unfortunately, you can't stop child pornography that way. I don't know how to, but eliminating the entire alt.binary hierarchy isn't the way to do it.
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blog]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20811018 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:10:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20810991 The Flash :

said by TOPDAWG :

The hell is with the anime girl picture?

lol ask »/useremail/u/141383]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20810991 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:04:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20810973 TOPDAWG : The hell is with the anime girl picture?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20810973 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:59:55 EDT