Barmat
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clubs: | Help chossing a new HDTV
I have a budget of 1700-2300 to spend. I'm looking for a 50" 1080p set. I like the panasonic 50pz85u or the panasonic 50pz800u. Any other recomendations. It has to be a plasma for viewing angle needs. |
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Babar
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Washington | You simply can't go wrong with the 50PZ800u. Go buy it and be happy  !
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Barmat
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Boogeyman
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said by Barmat  :It has to be a plasma for viewing angle needs. What do you mean by that? In my experience, LCD has a better viewing angle in most models due to the anti-reflective coating on the screen. Plasma OTOH, reflects glare like a CRT making it have less viewable angles when there is another light source in the room.
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jmacd27
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Take a look at the Samsung line of plasmas. I bought last years 58" model (FP-T5884) and I have been very pleased with it. I almost bought a Panasonic 58", but they both looked equal to me in quality. The Samsung was $300 cheaper and came with a 2 year warranty.
I haven't regretted my choice, I've had the tv almost a year now and I am still think I made the right choice.
I considered a LCD at first, but I found the black levels and viewing angles to be better with a plasma. I was also turned off by the motion blur that can be seen even on the 120 hz sets, I watch quite a bit of hockey and play games on my set, and the blur would be very distracting.
I use my set in a bright room with large windows at both ends of the room and I don't get very much glare. Most of the new plasma sets sold now have a anti glare coating the really helps with the glare. |
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KickMe
join:2001-10-03
Lancaster, OH
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said by Barmat :Yes, but 500 more happy? That would depend on your needs.
And in your price range I too would be looking at the Samsungs as well as those Pannys.
Further the Plamsa LCD debate continues, but the wise understand:
LCD The best LCD TVs display excellent & bright HD images. Reflections and glare are much less of an issue than with plasma screens, so an LCD TV is a good choice for brightly lit rooms.
PLASMA LCD TVs haven't caught up with plasma TVs in terms of viewing angle, color accuracy, and the ability to display the deepest blacks. |
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jmorlan
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Pacifica, CA
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LCD has come a long way. My LCD has no viewing angle issues. It's every bit as good as a plasma in that respect. Its color fidelity is wonderful after minor tuning.
I agree LCD does not display the deepest blacks, but the lack of glare and reflections are worth that trade-off.
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BillTager
join:2000-09-20
Charlotte, NC
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quote:
Take a look at the Samsung line of plasmas. I bought last years 58" model (FP-T5884) and I have been very pleased with it.
I have the 50" version of that set, and I concur. I looked at the Panasonics side by side with the Samsung, and while there were subtle differences, they just weren't worth the added cost over the Samsung. Additionally, the Samsung accepts 1080p over component as well as HDMI. Since my XBox 360 only has component, it just made sense to get the Samsung. No regrets.
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tigrzeye
join:2007-07-18
Northampton, PA
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I have a similar line of questioning....
Does anyone out there have either this years Samsung 46" or 52" A650 series LCD tv? If so, how is the picture with SD programming? I am on RCN cable. (I am also currently comparing the Sammy LCD's with the Panasonic 50PZ800U plasma)
I currently have a 2+ year old Samsung 42" plasma tv and love it. I have checked with a neighbor who has last years 4665 series LCD by Samsung and he said SD is not as good on the LCD as it was on his previous plasma.
The picture with Blu-Ray movies blows me away on the LCD's but if the SD is terrible, I will stay with plasma as I watch more normal tv than movies. Plasma according to cNet and others is the best out there, and my plasma has an awesome picture currently, but it's just lacks that "wow look at that" depth that LCD has when on HD programming or from an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray DVD. |
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Straphanger
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| I recently got a Samsung LN40A650 and SD programming looks fairly average on it. It's not as good as my old Sony Trinitron but I can't find too much to complain about. Details are a bit softer with some SD programming of course but I don't mind it so much since I watch a lot of TV on my computer with a tuner and programs usually look soft there.
But the A650 series (and the forthcoming A780/A950 series) LCD's are some of the best on the market for their price range. It may not be up to the level of plasma's but it certainly gets close.
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tigrzeye
join:2007-07-18
Northampton, PA | thanks for the reply I wasn't looking for great quality with SD but my neighbor said it was pretty pixelly (is that a word??) on his LCD. Worse than his prior plasma. |
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Barmat
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join:2000-11-01
Union City, CA
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Good Lord you are so right about the Sammy's. I just went to CC and looked at the the Panasonics next to the Samsungs and loved the LCDs. Great, I thought I had it narrowed down to two Plasmas. Now I'm considering 2 more LCDs. |
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punker
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| reply to Boogeyman
said by Boogeyman :said by Barmat :It has to be a plasma for viewing angle needs. What do you mean by that? In my experience, LCD has a better viewing angle in most models due to the anti-reflective coating on the screen. Plasma OTOH, reflects glare like a CRT making it have less viewable angles when there is another light source in the room. my LCD has 178°(H) x 178°(V) |
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rds24a
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A family member has a 52A650. They and Consumer Reports both agree that its the best TV they've ever seen. In the time I've watched it I have no complaints on 480i, 720p, 1080i, or 1080p.
EDIT: and I don't think Plasma or LCD has any impact on SD quality. It is controlled much more by source quality and the quality of the upconversion scheme used by the particular TV.
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tigrzeye
join:2007-07-18
Northampton, PA
| thanks for the reply rds24a.... I would have thought the same, SD is SD, but not only my neighbor but the sales person at CCity seemed to say the same thing about Plasma handling SD content better than LCD.
And I have noticed that c/net reviews seem to use HD DVD and SD DVD for their reviews, unless I have missed reading it in the article, and not real life cable or satellite viewing and what it looks like.
Anyhow, that is what the 30 day return policy is for I guess... LOL
Now to wait for CCity to get on the ball and offer the 36 mos financing again on all HD tv's  |
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KickMe
join:2001-10-03
Lancaster, OH
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said by rds24a :A family member has a 52A650. They and Consumer Reports both agree that its the best TV they've ever seen. An excellent TV but the quote from "Consumer Reports" is:
"This 52-inch 1080p model from Samsung is one of the best TVs we've ever tested." |
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eX_NihiLo
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said by tigrzeye :thanks for the reply rds24a.... I would have thought the same, SD is SD, but not only my neighbor but the sales person at CCity seemed to say the same thing about Plasma handling SD content better than LCD. Plasma technology lends itself to a softer picture due to some phosphor light bleed among the pixels that helps a SD image than with LCD. Yes a good scaler does wonders but if the scaler is equal, Plasma will look better than LCD for SD. |
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punker
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said by KickMe :said by Barmat :Yes, but 500 more happy? That would depend on your needs. And in your price range I too would be looking at the Samsungs as well as those Pannys. Further the Plamsa LCD debate continues, but the wise understand: PLASMA LCD TVs haven't caught up with plasma TVs in terms of viewing angle, color accuracy, and the ability to display the deepest blacks. they must very old lcds your comparing
also most plasmas are 1440 x 1080 an not 1920x1080 |
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KickMe
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| said by punker :said by KickMe :said by Barmat :Yes, but 500 more happy? That would depend on your needs. And in your price range I too would be looking at the Samsungs as well as those Pannys. Further the Plamsa LCD debate continues, but the wise understand: PLASMA LCD TVs haven't caught up with plasma TVs in terms of viewing angle, color accuracy, and the ability to display the deepest blacks. they must very old lcds your comparing also most plasmas are 1440 x 1080 an not 1920x1080 Isn't it strange that the top seven 58" and 50" Plasmas as rated in Consumer Reports have native resolutions of 1920x1080.
And oh BTW, the quote "LCD TVs haven't caught up with plasma TVs in terms of viewing angle, color accuracy, and the ability to display the deepest blacks." is not my comparison but comes directly from the latest labs tests at "Consumer Reports". |
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| google search
10bit LCD
52" 1080P 120hz
xvYCC Color space
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···89253150
xvYCC Color space is not any good with out an source to back it up
176-degree viewing
also if you LOOK AROUND YOU CAN FIND LCD's WITH 178 x 178
STFU with you climes that plasma is 180x180 viewing angle
The viewing angle is measured from one direction to the opposite, giving a maximum of 180° for a flat ,one-sided screen. Some display devices exhibit different behaviour in horizontal and vertical axis, requiring users and manufacturers to specify maximum usable viewing angles in both directions |
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