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FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
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Re: Civil Right? Not yet...

I disagree. I think not having true broadband is limiting how much one can accomplish. I can see some folks not wanting it, but it should be available to everyone if they choose to use it. Imagine how much fuel could be saved if people could work from home a few weeks a year, or during severe weather when folks are stuck.... It shouldn't just be the rich who benefit from technology, but everyone.
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ender7074

join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO
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said by FastiBook See Profile :

I disagree. I think not having true broadband is limiting how much one can accomplish. I can see some folks not wanting it, but it should be available to everyone if they choose to use it. Imagine how much fuel could be saved if people could work from home a few weeks a year, or during severe weather when folks are stuck.... It shouldn't just be the rich who benefit from technology, but everyone.
Mankind has made 99.99999999% of its most important discoveries without broadband. Its not a right or a necessity but a luxury. If you can afford it great. If not and it's important, then time to evaluate your financial situation.


TKJunkMail
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said by FastiBook See Profile :

it should be available to everyone if they choose to use it. It shouldn't just be the rich who benefit from technology, but everyone.
Number of household in the US : 77 million
Number of household with broadband : 44 million(57%)

I doubt 57% of households in the US are rich.
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said by FastiBook See Profile :

I disagree. I think not having true broadband is limiting how much one can accomplish. I can see some folks not wanting it, but it should be available to everyone if they choose to use it. Imagine how much fuel could be saved if people could work from home a few weeks a year, or during severe weather when folks are stuck.... It shouldn't just be the rich who benefit from technology, but everyone.
Ok, so we give you free Internet. I bet you now expect a free PC too? Oh, and you want your electricity reconnected for free too?

RocketChild

join:2003-11-24
Round Rock, TX


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reply to FastiBook
I think your right, at some point, we could have a lot more people working from home that do not need to commute in. Sure there are engineers that need to be in the lab. But the technology is there for all those people that work in call centers to stay at home with a paperless office. A lot of computer administration can be done from home. It is good for families and well-being in general.

Of course it will not work for everyone in every industry, but with a solid broadband infrastructure, we could see all those software programmers that have to drive to work stay at home. All those call reps at Sprint work from home (you see it a lot with banks and insurance companies when calling on the weekend).

How much would it really yield in the long run after the investments is the question.

And as for it being a right...well, at the moment, no, but in 20 years, life could be so integrated with technology that we should start thinking about having a right to good internet service as being part of being a member of society. At least by thinking about it as a right now will help us figure in where it will fit in our culture a decade from now when our kids will truly not be able to live without it.

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by FastiBook See Profile :

it should be available to everyone if they choose to use it. It shouldn't just be the rich who benefit from technology, but everyone.
Number of household in the US : 77 million
Number of household with broadband : 44 million(57%)

I doubt 57% of households in the US are rich.
No offense,, but I doubt those numbers are accurate.. Rich or not. Unless you count satellite.. Which I do NOT!

thevorpal

join:2007-11-16
Alexandria, VA

reply to ender7074
said by ender7074 See Profile :

Mankind has made 99.99999999% of its most important discoveries without broadband. Its not a right or a necessity but a luxury. If you can afford it great. If not and it's important, then time to evaluate your financial situation.
Mankind may have made 99% of the most imporant discoveries without broadband, but without communication 0% would have occured or mattered.

I believe that access to the primary methods of communication in any age is a fundamental right. From gestures and grunts, we moved to a spoken language. Then from a spoken language we invented cuneiform script. The alphabets followed and were followed by signaling techniques, then electromagnetic transmissions. Those EM signals are being improved through compression allowing even more data to be passed. At one time, letters were good enough for anyone, telephones were a luxury. Then, data service was a luxury for only the largest of companies and banks.

As you can see, the future technology is always the luxury, but the prevalent form of communication IS a necessity and access to it is a bona fide civil right.

The question shouldn't be if broadband should be a right or not, but rather, is broadband internet access now the predominant form of communication? Once that answer is 'yes' then the idea that it is a right should be automatic.

If it is not the 'standard' yet, it will be very very shortly.

pbarrow
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join:2003-09-16
Montgomery, AL

Nice reply!
Also consider the Middle Ages when the State and the Church tried to limit Books and The Bible to only the State and the Church thus keeping the people and peasants just that - people and peasants.
The world didn't begin to grow until everyone was being educated to read and write.
I suspect that you will find that in education today that the kids who do better are the one that have access to a computer and internet in the home.

cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

reply to FastiBook
who says people want to work from home? who says employers would allow? i sort of doubt they would enjoy company secrets/projects flying across the internet to systems that potentially insecure. who says that broadband is need for working at home? dialup is more than enough to connect to a license server if that is all that is needed. wasn't broadband supposed to enable this huge work at home movement in the late 1990's or early 2000's? why hasn't it happened? there is also nothing quite like being there in person.

suncet

join:2001-02-01
Lehi, UT

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said by thevorpal See Profile :

said by ender7074 See Profile :

Mankind has made 99.99999999% of its most important discoveries without broadband. Its not a right or a necessity but a luxury. If you can afford it great. If not and it's important, then time to evaluate your financial situation.
Mankind may have made 99% of the most imporant discoveries without broadband, but without communication 0% would have occured or mattered.

I believe that access to the primary methods of communication in any age is a fundamental right. From gestures and grunts, we moved to a spoken language. Then from a spoken language we invented cuneiform script. The alphabets followed and were followed by signaling techniques, then electromagnetic transmissions. Those EM signals are being improved through compression allowing even more data to be passed. At one time, letters were good enough for anyone, telephones were a luxury. Then, data service was a luxury for only the largest of companies and banks.

As you can see, the future technology is always the luxury, but the prevalent form of communication IS a necessity and access to it is a bona fide civil right.

The question shouldn't be if broadband should be a right or not, but rather, is broadband internet access now the predominant form of communication? Once that answer is 'yes' then the idea that it is a right should be automatic.

If it is not the 'standard' yet, it will be very very shortly.
Nice post


BillTager

join:2000-09-20
Charlotte, NC

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jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

reply to cornelius785
said by cornelius785 See Profile :

who says people want to work from home? who says employers would allow? i sort of doubt they would enjoy company secrets/projects flying across the internet to systems that potentially insecure. who says that broadband is need for working at home? dialup is more than enough to connect to a license server if that is all that is needed. wasn't broadband supposed to enable this huge work at home movement in the late 1990's or early 2000's? why hasn't it happened? there is also nothing quite like being there in person.
If you only knew how many company secrets and personal information is flying across the internet to India you'd be shocked!

Broadband is not a right, but it is a utility that should be regulated and not capped or fooled with.


FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
reply to thevorpal
Exactly.


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN


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said by pbarrow See Profile :

I suspect that you will find that in education today that the kids who do better are the one that have access to a computer and internet in the home.
Completely correct until that statement. There are some kids the internet can really screw up. I can't imagine that the kid running home to go on the internet is better than the one who plays outside.

»youtube.com/watch?v=sXlwLTe6OFs&···=related

Even the older more "mature" people in this video seem warped.


griff

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“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” - Mark Twain

Broadband is to this country today what indoor plumbing and electric lights were not that long ago. Disagree by throwing your cell phone, laptop and/or desktop computer out your window now!
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