SUMware
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Re: DNS Randomness Tests
»www.opendns.com/how/free/how-can···be-free/
OpenDNS makes money the same way Google and Yahoo do — by showing relevant ads when we show you search results.
This can be added this to the 'hosts' file: 127.0.0.1 guide.opendns.com |
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Imagine Reason
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My statement stands. |
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said by Imagine Reason :
OpenDNS is a private company and not open source as its name may imply. They also hijack location bar searches. Just so everyone knows.
That can be easily turned off:
»Re: rogers inserting advertisements into my browser - WTF?
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OpenDNS is a private company and not open source as its name may imply. They also hijack location bar searches. Just so everyone knows. |
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Libra
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USA | reply to SipSizzurp
Thank you, SipSizurp, for posting the pictures for me. In another thread I found out I could put those openDNS numbers into my Westell modem, so I did that instead and it covered both computer.
Sincerely, Libra |
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SUMware
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said by Sparrow  :One can open an account OpenDNS states that creating an account is purely optional and completely unnecessary to use their service. |
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SipSizzurp
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said by Sparrow :...open an account, download the updater... 
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Crystal Sky
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SipSizzurp ,
It's much easier to use the OpenDNS page. It guides a client through with implicit and easy directions. One can open an account, download the updater and you are on your way.
There is also a forum for support questions. |
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1 edit | reply to Libra
said by Libra :... after I inserted the two dns numbers and clicked "okay" I got this message "In order to use DNS you must specify a host name for your computer." If that is your Win98 machine, then the host name will be fine with anything you enter. For the XP box see the screen shot.
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Libra
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Hi WiseGuy,
Thank you for your instructions. However, I ran into a problem: after I inserted the two dns numbers and clicked "okay" I got this message "In order to use DNS you must specify a host name for your computer." I didn't know what to put in, so I canceled it.
I'm also wondering what I have to do for the XP computer.
Thank you.
Sincerely, Libra |
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FiOS Dan
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Re: With DNS Flaw Now Public, Attack Code Imminent
Thank you OpenDNS!  |
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TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
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Re: Good test to check your ISPs DNS servers
It seems both tests can give different results at times, especially if the servers source ports are not completely random. Have gotten results from Poor to Great with the new test. In looking at the ports used, it looks as if they tend to be in one range and then change to another range for my ISP.
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TKJunkMail
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Thanks for update. I did try the doxpara test too. But the doxpara test only tests the 1st DNS server it finds in the DNS list for the computer. The entropy test tests all the entries in the computers DNS list. So that made it easier to use.
In any case, the opendns servers test as well as or better than Comcasts and I'll stick with them.
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jbob
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Little Rock, AR | reply to TKJunkMail
FYI The OARC test may not be as accurate on Comcast. See this thread:
»[DNS] Comcast and the DNS Server flaw issue
Even Dan Kaminsky has chimed in. |
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1 edit |  reply to JohnInSJ
said by JohnInSJ :OpenDNS, and just about every other DNS has been patched already. This was more a media event then anything else. If you want to check whether your ISPs DNS servers are updated, you can run this test.
»entropy.dns-oarc.net/test/
It tests for BOTH port randomness and Transaction ID randomness.
I use Opendns and they showed GREAT on both tests. But my ISPs DNS(Comcast) that I use as the 3rd DNS entry in my list showed as POOR on the port randomness test.
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Re: With DNS Flaw Now Public, Attack Code Imminent
said by FiOS Dan :"One day after a security company accidentally posted details of a serious flaw in the Internet's Domain Name System (DNS), hackers are saying that software that exploits this flaw is sure to pop up soon." (More...). I would question whether that release was accidental. Seems more like it was done on purpose because they were annoyed that they weren't given all the info and part of the "in-crowd" that Kaminsky gave the info to.
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TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
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| reply to Libra
Re: DNS Randomness Tests
To switch to opendns follow the instructions in Section 4 of the link below (instructions quoted) for windows 98 and use the following IP addresses for DNS servers, (ignore the Domain instructions and the gateway instructions.)
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
»Satellite Forum FAQ »[DW4000] I'm sharing my connection on a LAN. Do I need to do more?
said by faq :
Windows 98:
Start => Settings => Control Panel => click on the Network icon or right-click on the Network Neighborhood icon and choose 'Properties'. Either way gets you into the Network configuration screens.
From the list of installed clients, protocols and services, locate TCP/IP bound to the NIC It will look something like this: TCP/IP -> your network card. The arrow indicates the protocol is bound to that adapter. Highlight that and then click the Properties button. This gets you into the TCP/IP configuration screens. Click the DNS Configuration tab. Put as dot in the 'Enable DNS' radio button.
Then add the DNS servers,
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Libra
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I did this test twice on my 98se computer and got this:
1. 68.237.161.37 appears to have POOR source port randomness and GREAT transaction ID randomness.
2. 68.237.161.38 appears to have POOR source port randomness and GREAT transaction ID randomness.
The first time I did this test the results were the same but the number was 68.237.161.36.
I also did the test on our XP computer which has the MS Patch, and AOL running - AOL came up great for both tests, but my dsl numbers (similar to above) had the same poor source port and great randomness.
I have Verizon DSL with the Westell 2200 modem (that has a NAT Firewall router) and I use a switch to connect both pcs.
When Dan Kaminsky first had his test both computers tested "your dns server appears safe". After he changed the test, both computers show "your NAT is interfering".
I don't understand all of this. How do I fix this (or does Verizon have to fix this)? Also, I don't know how to switch to an open DNS.
Thank you.
Sincerely, Libra |
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caffeinator
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| reply to SUMware
Nice one..the other test never did work on my machine.
However, using my primary DNS server from the ISP I get:
Source Port Randomness: POOR (one port used but it's a high range)
Transaction ID Randomness: GREAT (25 diff. ID's used)
So, is that a problem?
I use openDNS as my secondary as a failsafe FWIW.
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TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
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| reply to SUMware
Re: With DNS Flaw Now Public, Attack Code Imminent
Thanks for the link.
OOL seems to have just patched, the link indicated they had done it right, versus dox which indicated possible NAT. Looks as if they use a larger sample.
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