  BillTager
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| Blu-ray Sales Up 300%
Blu-ray sales (discs) generated more than $200 million in the first half of this year - a 300% increase over this point in 2007.....
quote: Why the success? Experts suggest that given the high cost of going out (dinner, drinks, movies) the home theater experience has become more attractive and certainly more frugal
»www.electronichouse.com/article/···s_up_300
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| I don't go the the movies anymore as well. Except for when I take my daughter.
Cheaper to buy a Blu-ray player and rent the movie. Or you can buy the movie for the price of 2 tickets and popcorn. -- "The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration." |
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  dadkins Land of Confusion Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| said by wings10 :I don't go the the movies anymore as well. Except for when I take my daughter. Cheaper to buy a Blu-ray player and rent the movie. Or you can buy the movie for the price of 2 tickets and popcorn. ... and watch it over and over without having to dish out more green!
Pause, FFW, RW...  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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  Jacob22 Premium join:2006-05-10 Eagle River, AK | reply to BillTager not to mention, not having to deal with annoying people! |
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  punker deleted by moderator Premium join:2004-06-21 Palmdale, CA clubs: | and this also »[Rant] People applauding in movie theaters |
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| reply to dadkins said by dadkins :said by wings10 :I don't go the the movies anymore as well. Except for when I take my daughter. Cheaper to buy a Blu-ray player and rent the movie. Or you can buy the movie for the price of 2 tickets and popcorn. ... and watch it over and over without having to dish out more green! Pause, FFW, RW... No sticky floors, no second mortgage to buy concessions, no inconsiderates yacking on their cellphones. . . . . -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee |
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| reply to BillTager said by BillTager :Blu-ray sales (discs) generated more than $200 million in the first half of this year - a 300% increase over this point in 2007..... At this point on 2007 the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD format war was still on and there was no clear winner yet. |
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@snet.net | reply to dvd536 ...and no crappy sound systems. Theater audio has got to be one of the most backward aspects of cinema. |
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  Barmat Uhmmm Floor Pie
join:2000-11-01 Union City, CA clubs: | reply to BillTager Sometimes I think theaters turn up the volume to make up for crappy sound. |
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| reply to BillTager The good news? Home entertainment spending is rolling right along with over $6 billion spent on DVD on Blu-ray discs alone. Add in rentals and that number climbs to over $10 billion And Blu-Ray sales represent 200 million of that 10 Billion?
So it's 2% or less of the massive disk market? Isn't that kind of, well, pathetic for the winner and next big thing?
And it doesn't exactly match the predictions from just before they won:
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6518231.html
On the software side, Blu-ray titles generated 5.6 million disc unit sales and $170 million in consumer spending, in 2007. The year ahead will trounce that performance, hitting 40 million discs sold, and churning out $1 billion in consumer spending in 2008, according to the studio.
Something tells me that Blu-Ray is the Windows Vista of optical media. It's predecessor is cheaper, easier, more familiar, more compatible, and good enough for most everyone. (Sorry if this is an old comparison; it just occurred to me.)
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edit: July 31st, @09:11AM
| Also has to do with HDTV adoption as well. On a SDTV, PQ of a BD is barely(if at all) noticable.
So, as more people adopt HDTVs and start wanting a return on their investment (better PQ that they paid for with the purchase of a HDTV) BD sales will climb.
Don't forget about DVD adoption in it's fledgling years... Wasn't stellar either. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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| Blu-Ray also has to get real with pricing.
When I did not have a Blu-Ray player I looked forward to buying regular DVD's movies on the first day of their release. They were $12.99 - 14.99 or so.
Blu-Ray, no discount on release day and they tend to run $27 - $35. Too expensive !!! |
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  dadkins Land of Confusion Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| Blu-ray Discs cost ~$4 to $10 more than the same DVD? Blu-ray Discs are doing better than DVDs were in their first years. Way better picture, several audio tracks including PCM(uncompressed) - for just a few more dollars?
New movies, no contest. BD all the way. Older titles, I'll root through the bargain bins for DVDs - ya know? -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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| Do what makes you happy, but it's really not "just a few more dollars" at all. It's between two and three times the price.
A quick check of basically random titles at "DeepDiscountDVD" (whatever I could find quickly; FAR from an endorsement of any title):
I don't much care as I don't have Blu-Ray players, but there's still a really big gap. (Yes, I know it's new and better. :) )
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|  Dark City at BB |  Dark City at Amazon |
Dark City at Best Buy. Dark City at Amazon.
$4.00 more for the BD? at BB... Some are a wider gap, but most are within $4-$7 more for the BD.
Remember DVD pricing way back when? Remember VHS tapes? Remember that a dollar meant something back then? I do! I also remember $36-$79 movies - on tape!
So, today we can get a BD with several different languages and several types of audio tracks - plus ~6x the resolution for an average of $24.95 per disc?
I'm REALLY ok with that! Ya know? It'll climb, watch. 
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| reply to Barmat said by Barmat :Sometimes I think theaters turn up the volume to make up for crappy sound. THere's more to it than that. Loud is not 'crappy' by itself. It's the uneven frequency response of the horn-loaded speakers used in many theaters in existance today that are not designed for a smooth response, but to provide loudness with small amounts of amplifier power.
Then you have the optical tracks on many older film projectors that are limited in response range by their nature being optical off film.
And movie audio itself is not perfect. Dialog seems to be recorded with a big midrange hump that makes it sound squawky, rather than natural.
And finally, the operators of the theaters are not the brightest audio guys on the planet either..
Thankfully, there's home theater, where you can have the sound the way YOU want it. |
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| reply to BillTager "Nobody Wants It"
Fair enough dadkins; to each his or her own. Sure, if the prices come down a lot further, and if they manage to include DVD images on the back side (?) it will be a no-brainer.
I just noticed a new thread at Slashdot
»entertainment.slashdot.org/enter···59.shtml
"A new consumer survey recently released chronicles the woes of the winner of the hi-definition format war: nobody wants it. While consumers were very happy to embrace the DVD standard when it came about because it brought a huge jump in quality over VHS, the pros of switching to Blu-ray are not as obvious. From the article: 'In contrast, while half of the respondents to our survey rated Blu-ray's quality as 'much better' than standard DVD, another 40% termed it only 'somewhat better,' and most are very satisfied with the performance of their current DVD players." Another reason cited was that a Blu-ray investment also dictates an HDTV purchase, something consumers are reluctant to do.'" Maybe it's also that line-doubling DVD players can be had for less than a hundred dollars. -- B -- In a realm outside causality and function |
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  dadkins Land of Confusion Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| Several do have a download-able "Digital Copy" - I suspect DRMed to death though.
Until more people adopt HDTVs and want to feed that high-dollar display the best one can get, BDs will slowly gain in popularity.
Upconverted, SRT/SUC/Res+(Toshiba), ??? is not the same and does not look as good as a Blu-ray. If it does, someone needs either a new display, glasses, or both.
DVD players and media were "not cheap", and that was years ago(think dollar value). I spent over $500 on my first DVD player. 
I can see the difference between DVD up-converted and a Blu-ray. I would be happy to demonstrate to anyone that wanted - if distance wasn't an issue. "Without Blu-ray, your HDTV is just a TV."
Light reading - Panasonic article »www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex···x.php#/0
More on the ABI research: »www.abiresearch.com/press/1203-C···urchases
"A new consumer survey from ABI Research has revealed a widespread reluctance to commit to a Blu-ray player in the near future: over half of the 1000 respondents, citing "other priorities," say they have no plans to purchase one; a further 23% are likely to buy, but not until sometime in 2009."
Nowhere does it say "Nobody Wants it".
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| said by dadkins :"A new consumer survey from ABI Research has revealed a widespread reluctance to commit to a Blu-ray player in the near future: over half of the 1000 respondents, citing "other priorities," say they have no plans to purchase one; a further 23% are likely to buy, but not until sometime in 2009." Nowhere does it say "Nobody Wants it". Well, to be fair that is the title of the article in question at »www.techtree.com/India/News/Nobo···581.html
And the study figures add up to at least 74% of people "not wanting" to buy Blu-Ray until at least 2009... 
As you imply, time will certainly tell. Having recently done the math on the time for a full DVD transfer at 2 Mbps (upwards of 10 hours), I don't see hard media like Blu-Ray going away any time soon.
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edit: August 7th, @06:19PM
| That article, perhaps. The survey itself explains why, out of 1000 people surveyed, are not considering buying into Blu-ray at this time.
Instead of biased intreptations, one shoud just read the ABI report itself: »www.abiresearch.com/press/1203-C···urchases
As stated over a year ago, not even DVD was accepted with open arms for a few years.
Let's revisit this in say... 2-3 years from now(2011). Many people proclaimed the "less expensive" format would win the "war". That *it* was "good enough". 
Naw, I believe, in time(as was the case with DVD) this new format will be the choice. I still have a $70+ movie on VHS... somewhere.  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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