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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

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Never used one....

In all honesty, I have never once used a newsgroup in all the (many) years I have been on the internet. I dont see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.

openbox9
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said by wifi4milez:

as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
You don't see the big deal in that


graysonf
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reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:

In all honesty, I have never once used a newsgroup in all the (many) years I have been on the internet. I dont see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
Don't take this personally, and no offense is intended, but your view is exactly typical of those who are completely ignorant on this subject and who voice an opinion based on absolutely nothing whatsoever - by your own admission of never having participating in the Usenet.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by graysonf:

said by wifi4milez:

In all honesty, I have never once used a newsgroup in all the (many) years I have been on the internet. I dont see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
Don't take this personally, and no offense is intended, but your view is exactly typical of those who are completely ignorant on this subject and who voice an opinion based on absolutely nothing whatsoever - by your own admission of never having participating in the Usenet.
So do you mean to imply that the vast majority of people visiting newsgroups do so for completely legal, non shady purposes?
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Phil
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If you were to exclude the alt.binary newsgroups, yes.

Stevert

join:2001-10-23
Algonquin, IL
said by Phil:

If you were to exclude the alt.binary newsgroups, yes.
And not even all the alt.binary ng's are "bad".

I'm a railroad fan, and alt.binary.pictures.rail has to be one of the most family-friendly places I've ever visited.



MRGOOGLEABC

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reply to wifi4milez
yeah, try visiting news.google.com for proof.


v35_pilot
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join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:

I dont see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
Very stimulating and friendly discussions.

wispalord

join:2007-09-20
Farmington, MO
reply to wifi4milez
well, there is a lot of support in there from ectrything from computer issues to medical issues, dating ect, and news groups are not well pc specific a old xt pc on a 2400boud modem in a 3rd would contry can access them, so it has it's perks.


supergirl

join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
reply to graysonf
said by graysonf:

said by wifi4milez:

In all honesty, I have never once used a newsgroup in all the (many) years I have been on the internet. I dont see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
Don't take this personally, and no offense is intended, but your view is exactly typical of those who are completely ignorant on this subject and who voice an opinion based on absolutely nothing whatsoever - by your own admission of never having participating in the Usenet.
Had one of them. Almost all was pirated content. GigaNews seems to be the best one though.
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jbob
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Little Rock, AR

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I have been using USENET for over 10 years. In all that time I have never gotten or downloaded anything illegal from them.
For the uninformed like you the USENET was around long before forums like this one to post in and get help. There are still many users out there who prefer text based message boards like one finds on the USENET. I see advantages to both.
The ones you seem to be thinking of are WAREZ and Binary Newsgroups. There is so much more out there than that.
You really need to get your head out of the sand.


Doctor Four
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reply to wifi4milez
Such a narrow minded view of Usenet.

Sure, you can find copyright infringing material (or in your
mistaken belief shaped by MAFIAA propaganda "pirated content")
on there, but that is only in the binary groups. And some of
that content is not infringing (open source, creative commons
licensed, etc.)

Long before forums such as this were around, and even before
the Internet as we know it today, Usenet provided help and
discussion groups for everything you could possibly think of.

And it still does. Though some groups are so filled with
flame wars, spammers and trolls, that it makes them
practically unreadable.
--
"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)


fuziwuzi
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join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA
reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:

In all honesty, I have never once used a newsgroup in all the (many) years I have been on the internet. I dont see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
So what else that you admit you know nothing about do you feel qualified to comment upon?
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stomp357

join:2003-04-13
Lake Charles, LA
reply to jbob
said by jbob:

I have been using USENET for over 10 years. In all that time I have never gotten or downloaded anything illegal from them.
For the uninformed like you the USENET was around long before forums like this one to post in and get help. There are still many users out there who prefer text based message boards like one finds on the USENET. I see advantages to both.
The ones you seem to be thinking of are WAREZ and Binary Newsgroups. There is so much more out there than that.
You really need to get your head out of the sand.
Usenet is still where I get alot of my PC building help. Because most usenet users are of the "techie" bunch, I find it to be of a great asset. Hell, I still use FidoNet.


88615298
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to wifi4milez
i've never used on either and to be frank I'm not sure what the point is. Maybe 12-15 yes they had a purpose but today? sicne I've enver used one I would like someone to explain to me what LEGAL way I could use a newgroup for that somehow I couldn't find anywhere else on the net.


fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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said by 88615298:

i've never used on either and to be frank I'm not sure what the point is. Maybe 12-15 yes they had a purpose but today? sicne I've enver used one I would like someone to explain to me what LEGAL way I could use a newgroup for that somehow I couldn't find anywhere else on the net.
Again someone who admits to not knowing what a newsgroup is feels qualified to comment upon their relevance. What other items that you know nothing about do you ponder whether they should exist? How many illegal ways can you use ANYTHING in your household, but you don't question whether or not you should have them?

If you offer nothing to a discussion, why do you enter it?

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I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
- Stephen Hawking


ncherry
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Monroe Township, NJ
reply to jbob
said by jbob:

I have been using USENET for over 10 years. In all that time I have never gotten or downloaded anything illegal from them. ...
I have, just once, I downloaded my own book (see sig) in PDF. That was an odd experience.

I remember downloading Perl when it first came out. I thought it was odd and couldn't see the value of another shell language. Odd how I use it daily to do all sort of things. Hindsight is 20/20.

Oh for those who have no idea, Perl is open source so downloading it is not a problem.
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Neil Cherry
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joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:

In all honesty, I have never once used a newsgroup in all the (many) years I have been on the internet. I don't see what the big deal is anyway, because as far as I can tell all they do is offer a place to get pirated content or questionable image files.
This just came to my attention on DSLR. I will concede that Most people under 30-35 may have never used Usenet. But when the internet started, there was an internet before a graphical browser. I was on newsgroups before there was web surfing. I still frequent financial discussion newsgroups which have decent traffic, i.e. number of posters and actual posts.

I understand that NG can post illegal items, but it actually seems archaic compared to torrents. The newsgroups / usenet for discussion isn't so bad. It's important to those who use it, and will find another way to access. Too bad.

Joe
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