  jhboricua ExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-06 Minneapolis, MN clubs:
| Latest Symantec virus definition break havoc in POS software
If you work at a shop that uses Micros RES 4.x for POS systems AND Symantec SAV or Endpoint Protection, Symantec has a gift for you. Micros happens to be the biggest POS software/hardware maker out there, I believe.
Their latest virus definition falsely identifies a crucial file from Micros as a virus and removes/quarantines it, causing the POS interface to either lockup or fail to load altogether.
From: ...... Sent: 2008-07-23 16:56 To: .....
Subject: Norton AntiVirus
Many of you may already beware of the mess that is occurring with the latest definition Norton Antivirus. Norton just sent a definition update the other day that sees micros explorer.exe as a virus and deletes it. At the very least this will not allow to log into Micros Secure Desktop and the very worst it will freeze the entire POS system. Everyone using RES 4.0 and above is affected. If a customer calls about this issue, direct them to the Help Desk. They are well aware of the issue and are implementing the following workaround to set micros explorer.exe as an exception in Norton (The painful part here is that the site needs to re-boot after setting the exception).
The following solution is the workaround: 57244
Solution Title: 3700 (Microsexplorer.exe, Norton Antivirus, NAV, Endpoint) Micros Desktop causes the SQL service to fault or PC to freeze
Problem Description: Norton Antivirus Endpoint released a virus definition approximate to 7/22/2008 that detected the file "microsexplorer.exe" as a virus. There are several registry entries as well as files that are quarantined because of this. This solution is a workaround for NAV quarantining this file. Sites may report the following:
- Opening Micros Desktop freezes the server or causes SQL service to fault - Workstations say "system closed" or "enter standalone mode?" - PC Freezes or locks up when Rebooting (if secure desktop is set to start automatically)
The basic flow of implementing this solution is as follows:
1. Set Micros directory as an exception in the antivirus software 2. Recover the quarantined file "microsexplorer.exe" and related processes
Resolution (1 of 1):
(PLEASE NOTE: These steps were recorded from a Burger King site using Windows XP Pro, RES 4.1 hf3, with Norton Antivirus Endpoint Version. The steps to resolve this may differ depending on which versions of software are involved!!)
1. Go to start > Run. Then type in "services.msc" 2. Find the "MICROS Secure Desktop" service, right click and go to properties 3. Set the "startup Type" to "Manual" 4. Perform a proper reboot of the Micros server 5. When PC server starts, go to start > programs > Norton's Antivirus 6. Select the "settings" bar, then select "Virus and Spyware Protection Options" 7. Select "Scan Exclusions", then select "new" for both boxes for "risk scanning" and "auto protect scanning" 8. Select the browse folder and select the path \micros\common\bin (partition location varies from site) 9. Press OK to get back to the NAV original screen 10. Press the "Tasks & Scan" option, under that select "Managed Quarantined Items", then "Go to Quarantine" 11. The title should be "W32.spybot.Worm". select the icon under the status column for that Particular quarantined Item
(NOTE: if the status shows "reboot required", it will NOT give you the option to restore risk on the next step!!)
12. select "Restore Risk". (this may take several minutes) 13. After this is done, the Micros desktop should open.
The following SCR is open with R & D:
SCR#
35213
Open
RES: MicrosExplorer.exe is being detected as a virus threat as of 7/22/08
Submitter:
...........
Submit Date:
7/23/2008 8:06:12 AM
Owner:
...........
Close Date:
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Document?:
No
Priority:
>
Estimated Dev Effort:
>
Referenced SCR:
0
Estimated QA Effort:
>
Release Version:
RES 4.0
Feature:
Installation/Setup
RES_Module:
3700
HW Platform:
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Setup Type:
>
Item Type:
Investigation Needed
Severity:
Showstopper
Module:
Setup - Other
Status:
Reported
Operating System:
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Target Version:
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Origin:
Internal
Version Fixed (Old):
>
Original Submitter:
...............
Version Found (Old):
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Build Fixed:
Clarify Change Request #:
6488145
Customer:
Burger King
Historical References:
Version Fixed/Rspd:
Version Found:
res 4.X
Description:
Title: RES: MicrosExplorer.exe is being detected as a virus threat as of 7/22/08 Description: As of yesterdays anitvirus definitions symantec endpoint is detecting MicrosExplorer.exe as a security threat detected as the w32.spybot worm virus. On further investigation other antivirus programs such as symantec corp 10 and AVG anti-virus are also detecting this file as a security threat. Versions thus far affected: Version 4.0 GR CD -using AVG --source: N Version 4.1 hf1 -using AVG --source clarify case 6488145 Version 4.1 hf2 -using SEP11 --source H cube Version 4.1 hf3 -using SEP11 --source H cube
After talking to G he explained that the functionality of the file modifies the registry changing the shell, it act as a key logger for the EM backdoor feature, and ping the process list to see if MIcrosDesk is running, one or alll of these behavior may be mis-represent as suspicious activities.
Clarification and more info. [7/23/2008 11:38:04 AM(........)]:
1) We are NOT seeing this get reported as a virus from NAV 10.1.5.5000. I tested this with a virus def of 7-24-08 and it was not reported as an issue.
2) Although I did get some indirect indication it was complaining about a file located where I had a 4.1 hf2 version of MicrosExplorer, a direct scan of that version of the file does NOT show any issues.
So, With SEP 11, it is just version 4.1 hf3.
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Many BK sites reporting this [7/23/2008 11:38:04 AM()]:
Burger King sites on RES 4.1 hf3 are calling the Help Desk in regards to the micros desktop not starting, Micros PC Freezing or locking up, workstations prompting for standalone mode, as well as other NAV messages that appear on their BOPC. When remotely connected to some sites, the SQL service faults every time the micros desktop tries to start. We have been using the following steps to correct this issue Set the MICROS Secure Desktop service to manual Restart the BOPC Navigate to NAV exclusions and set the \micros\common\bin directory as an exclusion Un-quarantine the W32.spybot.Worm Risk Set the MICROS Secure Desktop service back to Automatic again.
Symantec says the signature causes it [7/23/2008 11:38:04 AM()]:
Since the response from submitting the file is that its a virus, that means its not based on behavior, but rather its in the signature.
BK using NAV 2008 [7/23/2008 11:39:39 AM(.....)]:
So now we have: AVG SEP 11 NAV 2008
all reporting version 4.1 hf3 of MicrosExplorer.exe as a virus.
Clarify case 6488145 [7/23/2008 11:53:10 AM()]:
more cases [7/23/2008 12:03:33 PM()]:
- 6494538 BURGER KING #12142 - 6494026 BURGER KING #2413 - 6493913 BURGER KING #4497 - 6493891 BURGER KING #12983 - 6493296 BURGER KING #7924 - 6493285 BURGER KING #3059 - 6493269 BURGER KING #4247 - 6492915 BURGER KING #13010
Micros Rep Signature.
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edit: July 23rd, @07:58PM
| I've forwarded your issue and a link to this topic to Symantec - expect input from them in this topic.
NOTE You should also contact the other vendors you posted as well that are reporting this issue.
So now we have: AVG SEP 11 NAV 2008
all reporting version 4.1 hf3 of MicrosExplorer.exe as a virus.
-amy-
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  jhboricua ExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-06 Minneapolis, MN clubs:
edit: July 23rd, @08:46PM
| That is correct, from the email we got from Micros.
In the meantime, I've disabled definitions update on our environment for the branch locations I administer. Lucky for me I had all the branch computers grouped together on the SAV management console and they only check and update definitions from Thursday to Saturday, so none of our deployed Micros servers had received the updated definition that causes this issue, only the ones we had in our test environment.
The problem I'm facing is not being able to put a global exception on the SAV Server Management Console for that particular 'W32.spybot.Worm' definition, because it is not even showing on the 'risk' list. I was hoping to make the exception this way, if we have to follow the 'fix' suggested by Symantec/Micros, we'll have to remote to every branch location and implement it locally on the machine. Major PITA. |
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  ranschultz Premium join:2004-05-28 Canyon Country, CA | reply to jhboricua These false positives should be resolved. Please download the latest definitions and try again. |
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  jhboricua ExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-06 Minneapolis, MN clubs:
| said by ranschultz :These false positives should be resolved. Please download the latest definitions and try again. I'll take some time tomorrow to test this and report back here. Thanks. -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein Jose A. Hernandez * System Admin * MPLS, Minnesota, USA * |
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  jhboricua ExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-06 Minneapolis, MN clubs:
| reply to ranschultz Definition files 7/24/2008 rev. 28 still flagged the file as a virus last night.
This morning we tried another definition update and received definition 7/25/2008 rev.3
This new revision does not flag the file as a virus.
-- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein Jose A. Hernandez * System Admin * MPLS, Minnesota, USA * |
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