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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
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join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON

reply to p2p_NEXT
Re: CAIPS new Filing: CAIP debunks Bell Canada throttling claim

said by p2p_NEXT :

What happens next?
Does Bell reply again?

Anyone know?
The CRTC will render their verdict by September if things hold to their previous time-frame. In the meantime two things.............

1 - We're not quite done just yet!

2 - If you believe in what CAIP believes in now's the time to educate the world. The old way of doing business, where ethics and profits are at odds, must cease to exist! Being fair, truthful and transparent is the only way to go going forward! Tell your friends and family so that this case be used as an example of a serious need to rewrite how things are run... We, the clients, in the end have the power and if the decision-makers and politicians, elected by these same clients, are told unanimously that corporate bullying must stop, then backdoor lobbying and spin tactics won't matter anymore. Change will come....

Rocky
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TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.


shaggy_anon

@on.ca

I did just that. I had a ten minute technical prestentation to do with my college communications class.

20 or so people that are more aware now then they were.

If I wasnt talking out my ass so much I would have had them all enlist against the man


Maynard G Krebs

@teksavvy.com

reply to R0CKY
said by R0CKY See Profile :

The CRTC will render their verdict by September if things hold to their previous time-frame. In the meantime two things.............

1 - We're not quite done just yet!

2 - If you believe in what CAIP believes in now's the time to educate the world. The old way of doing business, where ethics and profits are at odds, must cease to exist! Being fair, truthful and transparent is the only way to go going forward! Tell your friends and family so that this case be used as an example of a serious need to rewrite how things are run... We, the clients, in the end have the power and if the decision-makers and politicians, elected by these same clients, are told unanimously that corporate bullying must stop, then backdoor lobbying and spin tactics won't matter anymore. Change will come....
Pool some money together for some late evening TV ads...

Scene 1: Person writes a letter, drops it into a mail box, employee at postal sorting station opens it & reads it. Cops bust the employee and give him the perp walk.

Scene 2: Person writes an e-mail and sends it (shot of person's monitor typing/sending e-mail). Next frame his e-mail pops up and is read on a monitor in a location clearly identified as Bell Network Operation Centre.

Voice over: "It's illegal to read other peoples mail. Why does Bell think it can get away with it? Call your MP and local Crown prosecutor and ask."


yuppers

@videotron.ca
Thats something CIPPIC should get involve with as well.

Part of an education program

BellVictim
Premium
join:2006-04-17
·Bell Sympatico

reply to Maynard G Krebs
said by Maynard G Krebs :

Pool some money together for some late evening TV ads...
Heh, I contemplated a few days ago trying to entice some Ryerson students into doing up something that could be posted to YouTube.

Scene 1: Person writes a letter, drops it into a mail box, employee at postal sorting station opens it & reads it. Cops bust the employee and give him the perp walk.

Scene 2: Person writes an e-mail and sends it (shot of person's monitor typing/sending e-mail). Next frame his e-mail pops up and is read on a monitor in a location clearly identified as Bell Network Operation Centre.

Voice over: "It's illegal to read other peoples mail. Why does Bell think it can get away with it? Call your MP and local Crown prosecutor and ask."
Yeah, I had a similar sort of thinking...

Start with showing how someone addresses a postal envelope, seals it and sends it out ... and how the postal system respects the sanctity of the contents.

Then show how a BitTorrent packet is assembled...
- the BitTorrent request comprises the TCP data (or payload)
- the port numbers of the communication are put into the TCP header
- this complete TCP packet comprises an IP packet's payload, which is added to the IP header and further assembled...
- etc
- all the way up to the ethernet frame that goes out one's router

But have the peeps in the video actually placing envelopes into envelopes.

Then have some character representing Bell show how Bell opens up envelopes within envelopes within envelopes within envelopes to get at the BitTorrent information ... and how this amounts to the same as the postal service opening up people's envelopes to read their private mail because the extent of the examination by the carrier is in excess of the minimum required to actually route the communications.

I was hoping that coupling Ryerson's strong technology contingent with their well-known Image Arts/New Media departments to come up with a YouTube video/statement that could perhaps be technically perfect in its demonstration of the IT principles involved and yet appealing to Joe & Jane Sixpack (viewers) by being well-produced, executed and 'acted'. In the end hopefully this would increase exposure of the issue of Bell's snooping on packets, and could also draw positive attention for the students involved and even Ryerson proper (better than being in the news for busting Facebook study groups

What we'd first need is a Ryerson-centered anti-throttling group - "Ryerson Students Against Internet Brownouts" or somesuch.

(Maynard rocks)
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