ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA |  Just cuttin out the middlemen
No need for all these hands in the pot. |
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tiger9
join:2005-08-01
Ont,Canada | Yeah, right  Never mind that GAS/5410 is a regulated, shared (to competitors) service JUST like the local loop to your house is, and is subject to regulations. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | I forgot, this is Canada we're talking aboot.
Plus mains dans le pot. |
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the cerberus
join:2007-10-16
Richmond Hill, ON
2 edits | »ca.youtube.com/watch?v=TcW8F91dZO8 |
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA | reply to ninjatutle
for everyone that didn't already know, companies in Canada are able to put their own DSLAMS into Bell's central offices and thus are not REQUIRED in any way to use Bell's backhaul. but teksavvy chooses to operate in that manner. |
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tiger9
join:2005-08-01
Ont,Canada | I'd like to see you afford a co-located DSLAM, though |
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
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not sure what you're talking about but i'm pretty sure that anyone is allowed to rent a copper line from bell that goes from the central office to the customer, and so is not required to use any other piece of bell equipment except that piece of bare wire. most of those companies complaining about throttling choose to buy as much from bell as possible instead of the other way around. |
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drjp81
join:2006-01-09
canada
 ·TELUS
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| I don't know if *you* are aware, but Canadians payed for most of the infrastructure that bell uses through subsidies (reads taxes) so I don't see how we should need to pay twice to get some competition.
Sheesh walk a mile in a man's shoes before you speak.
OK let's see let's try an American solution, throw more money at it...yeah that'll work...
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
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since when are CANADIAN companies prohibited from leasing only a piece of bell canada copper? OH! they're not? oh yeah! anyone in Canada can lease bell copper without the requirement to lease bell equipment, bell dslams, and so on. Teksavvy and so on chose to not build their own network. |
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Capharnaum
join:2006-06-19
Montreal, QC
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said by st7860  :for everyone that didn't already know, companies in Canada are able to put their own DSLAMS into Bell's central offices and thus are not REQUIRED in any way to use Bell's backhaul. but teksavvy chooses to operate in that manner. They can't put their own remotes though. There's a lot of places they couldn't service even if they decided to deploy their DSLAMS.
Imo, they should all band up together with a known partner (like Google) and kill Bell's ISP service. It would be well deserved. |
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fcisler
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join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
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I'm not quite sure if you understand what a RT is, and why the above poster mentioned it.
Here's a link to the sites FAQ: »SBC Remote Terminal (RT) FAQ »What is an RT and what does it do?
It's SBC, but a RT is a RT. Guessing by the large geographical size of Canada, I'm sure that there is more than likely several RT's spread throughout. The RT does NOT bring any sort of copper back to a CO. AFAIK, you can't rent space to install your own hardware. Judging by pictures I have seen, they are usually small.
So yes - they could put their own DSLAM into several CO's - but they will be cutting off a significant part of possible subs.
I've also heard rocky mention that something about they would then have to pay some type of tax, because their current situation does not list them as having a "presence" in several areas of Canada. I'm not familiar enough with Canada's tax, but apparently it was a "GST" in Montreal/Quebec that they would then have to pay - IIRC. |
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