 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
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 ·Vonage
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| Vonage Commits to Refinance quote:
Vonage Holdings Corp. a leading provider of broadband telephone service, announced today it has entered into a commitment letter with Silver Point Finance, LLC ("Silver Point") establishing the terms and conditions for up to $215 million in private debt financing of which Silver Point has committed to provide $125 million.
Please use some of that cash to develop SELECTIVE Call Blocking for your customers, who have been patiently waiting for it forever.
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kaila
join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL | Wow, I can't believe they haven't rolled this out yet. We'd been promised call filtering when I joined Vonage in 2003, I got tired of waiting and left them for Asterisk in 2005. It was a bit of a learning curve, but offers the ultimate in call filtering and management in general. |
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 bencPremium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
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| Umm....Vonage is a VOIP provider, while Asterisk is IP-PBX software. I agree though that Asterisk is cool. I'll probably want to buy an Aastra 57i to use with it.
What provider did you switch to?
Also, it is possible to use Vonage as a SIP trunk. I'm not saying it's the best possible option, but it's possible.
I've used Callcentric occasionally, and they seem good and reliable. I haven't used them too much, since I have the unlimited domestic L.D. on my POTS.
As for using Vonage, I'm not about to (despite their being cheaper than Callcentric for equivalent service) since I've heard it's hard to cancel. That just might be for people with auto bill-pay though. After all, how long will they provide service if you don't pay? |
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kaila
join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL | said by benc:....I'll probably want to buy an Aastra 57i to use with it. The Aastra line is top notch and a bargain compared with Cisco. ! have two Aastras in my home (57i & 53i). Easy to setup with exceptional voice quality.
What provider did you switch to?... I use Telasip as my primary provider and Voicepulse Connect (Voicepulse's asterisk friendly pay-as-you-go offering) as a backup provider and for their international rates.
...Also, it is possible to use Vonage as a SIP trunk. I'm not saying it's the best possible option, but it's possible.... I didn't know Vonage offered SIP trunking. One thing they likely don't offer (like the other providers I use) is simultaneous calling. With five kids total and four living at home, that ability has been a godsend in my house.
For anybody who has any interest at all in Asterisk, I highly recommend Ward Mundy's site which offers a GUI based version of asterisk called PBX in a Flash -> »nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=214 |
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said by newview: quote:
Vonage Holdings Corp. a leading provider of broadband telephone service, announced today it has entered into a commitment letter with Silver Point Finance, LLC ("Silver Point") establishing the terms and conditions for up to $215 million in private debt financing of which Silver Point has committed to provide $125 million.
Please use some of that cash to develop SELECTIVE Call Blocking for your customers, who have been patiently waiting for it forever. I give them about a year before they file bankruptcy. Their churn rate is horrible. Cable VOIP/Digital Voice/Cellphones with Unlimited Calling is going to kill them. Triple play will become more of a deal. If caps are truly imposed with overage charges, Vonage is over anyway.
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bencPremium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL Reviews:
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| said by supergirl:I give them about a year before they file bankruptcy. Their churn rate is horrible. Cable VOIP/Digital Voice/Cellphones with Unlimited Calling is going to kill them. Triple play will become more of a deal. If caps are truly imposed with overage charges, Vonage is over anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Vonage does file for bankruptcy at some point. Then again people have been saying that for years I think. so you never know.
Unlimited Mobile Phone Plans? Perhaps. There's a $50 price premium between unlimited mobile plans and unlimited POTS, prior to taxes and fees ($100 vs. $50). The cost difference between unlimited mobile and unlimited VOIP is even larger. Since it's easier to share POTS and VOIP the cost difference is even larger.
Caps? Oh please. And for the record, I don't agree with caps at all. However, what VOIP uses is actually quite small. Using G.711 ulaw, the bulkiest VOIP codec, 1GB data = just over 1,609 minutes.
Suppose, as a hypothetical example:
There's a family of four blabbermouths. They each talk three hours a day, and this doesn't include work or mobile phone usage. That's 720 minutes per day, or about 21,916 minutes per month. Using G.711 ulaw, that's about 13.2 GB. On Comcast's 250GB cap, there's still lots of room left. They'd be at a far greater risk of using up that cap for other things.
In real life, I doubt anyone actually talks three hours a day on the phone outside work. If there's anyone who does, they are quite rare.
So, while I disagree with caps, to say that caps will make VOIP hurt is nonsensical. The only way caps will hurt VOIP is if people don't put it all into perspective. |
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These are loan shark terms of course. A floating rate at 15%, major restrictive financial covenants, and what they call 'full ratchet anti-dilution provisions'. 
»www.telecomramblings.com/2008/07···rk-tank/
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