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cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

astraweb vs. powerusenet

Short story:
Is Astraweb as good as powerusenet (who resell giganews) in respect to speeds and completition esp for ppl in eastern Canada?

Long story:
I am currently with powerusenet which has increased it's retention to 125 days and started to allow posting. Paying 15$/mo

However, I just saw that astraweb has a special at 11$/mo Unlimited DSL - US$ 11 every month

# No Speed Limits
# No Download Limits
# 140 Days Retention
# 20 Connections
# You will pay $11 for every month as long as your subcription remains active.

Should I move of should I not?


Ryan
Premium
join:2001-03-03
Quincy, MA

I dont see that deal mentioned anywhere on astraweb's website. Are you sure your on the right website??



Neolight

@on.net

reply to cbp
2nded. Where is that deal mentioned as that is better than the NGroups.Net lifetime $11.99 special as Astraweb is aiming to have 200 days retention before the year is out?



Neolight

@on.net

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reply to cbp
Nevermind found it. A great deal-

»www.news.astraweb.com/specials/k···-11.html



Ryan
Premium
join:2001-03-03
Quincy, MA

reply to cbp
As far as astraweb i used to love them up until october when i switched to ngroups for a better deal. At the time they only had 62 days of retention but they barely had issues. Im tempted to go back to them with this new deal, BUT ive heard some people complain about completion while others say they dont have a problem...



Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2

reply to cbp
I wonder if existing customers can get on this deal. I just emailed AstraWeb support and asked them. I hope so.


cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

reply to cbp
Hmmm... I did a traceroute to both astraweb and powerusenet and astraweb got on average between 90 and 200 ms while poweusenet gets less than 60ms always.

Traceroute to astraweb:

Hop Address Min (ms) Max (ms) Avg (ms) +/- (ms)
1 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 28.65 39.70 32.38
2 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 30.33 43.44 35.17 2.79
3 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 34.31 36.07 35.19 0.02
4 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 36.53 43.14 40.80 5.61
5 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 32.70 52.03 40.02 -0.77
6 te9-4.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.205) 30.80 49.48 37.53 -2.49
7 te9-2.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.209) 32.28 41.67 36.98 -0.55
8 te2-2.mpd01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.1) 41.93 49.28 46.77 9.79
9 * 56.27 58.18 57.23 10.46
10 te8-4.mpd01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.185) 73.19 78.13 75.76 18.53
11 te7-4.mpd01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.34) 99.14 108.47 103.45 27.69
12 te7-4.mpd01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.134) 98.07 111.20 105.33 1.88
13 vl3495.mpd01.sjc06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.150) 101.60 112.10 105.64 0.31
14 38.99.107.2 94.73 114.13 104.65 -0.99
15 unknown.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.42) 105.36 114.30 109.43 4.78

Powerusenet:

Hop Address Min (ms) Max (ms) Avg (ms) +/- (ms)
1 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 32.55 39.98 35.51
2 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 26.80 40.52 33.66 -1.86
3 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 38.58 39.73 39.32 5.66
4 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 45.36 50.43 48.21 8.90
5 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 45.10 52.95 49.46 1.24
6 tge8-2.fr3.lga.llnw.net (208.111.134.205) 38.02 49.41 42.32 -7.14
7 tge2-4.fr3.iad.llnw.net (69.28.171.157) 46.89 51.05 49.56 7.24
8 giganews.ge3-4.fr3.iad.llnw.net (69.28.156.174) 50.99 53.00 52.20 2.64
9 *
10 *
11 *
12 *
13 *
14 *
15 *
16 *
17 *
18 *
19 news.powerusenet.com (216.196.97.161) 45.25 52.68 47.84

Anyone care to comment on these results?

Thanks


unoriginal

join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA
Reviews:
·DSL EXTREME

I would use reverse traceroutes unless you are planning on doing a lot of uploading as the routes can be completely different.

Astraweb:»www.news.astraweb.com/tools/tracepub.cgi

Giganews (as Powerusenet is a Giganews reseller):

»www.giganews.com/performance.html


cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

news.giganews.com

1 216.196.98.6 (216.196.98.6) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
2 193.159.224.17 (193.159.224.17) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
3 62.156.128.110 (62.156.128.110) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 sl-bb21-dc-10-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.151) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 sl-crs2-rly-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.213) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
6 sl-bb27-nyc-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.164) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
7 sl-bb23-nyc-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.109) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
8 sl-gw31-nyc-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.13.32) 18 ms 13 ms 15 ms
9 sl-nexxia-6-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.111.38) 15 ms 17 ms 14 ms
10 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
11 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms
12 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms
13 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 24 ms 22 ms 22 ms
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * *
Max number of unresponsive hops reached (firewall or filter?)

Traceroute from us.news.astraweb.com:
Hostname Best Worst Avg
0 gw.eqnx.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.1) 0.28 0.96 0.43
1 gi7-9.mpd01.sjc06.atlas.cogentco.com (38.99.107.1) 0.31 0.70 0.52
2 te4-3.ccr02.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.105) 0.69 19.85 4.55
3 te3-3.ccr02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.125) 1.75 112.70 24.00
4 te2-1.ccr02.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.41) 36.91 37.60 37.07
5 te1-3.ccr02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.213) 47.71 62.02 50.60
6 bellnexxia.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.30) 51.72 54.87 52.53
7 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 48.28 48.41 48.33
8 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 58.57 58.99 58.89
9 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 58.75 58.95 58.83
10 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 75.80 76.18 75.94
11 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 75.40 75.75 75.61
12 xxx.net.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 77.16 86.11 79.41
13 xxx.dsl.bell.ca (xx.xx.xx.xx) 91.70 93.37 92.20

Reverse trace.


cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

reply to cbp
Well, I signed up for now to test it out.

From what I see it maxes out my connection (7MBps).

Will test it for another week and see how it goes.
I like the SSL option, yet to be tested, just in case my ISP decides to throttle usenet.



jrobert69
How High?
Premium
join:2001-05-19
Rochester, NH
Reviews:
·Metrocast Commun..

reply to Stem Bolt

said by Stem Bolt:

I wonder if existing customers can get on this deal. I just emailed AstraWeb support and asked them. I hope so.
Can you post back with their response please.


Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2

said by jrobert69:

said by Stem Bolt:

I wonder if existing customers can get on this deal. I just emailed AstraWeb support and asked them. I hope so.
Can you post back with their response please.
Yes, they responded that existing customers can switch over to the Kleverig Special for $11. This is the response I received.

quote:
If you would like to upgrade/downgrade your account, please signup again for your new account at:
»www.news.astraweb.com/specials/k···-11.html
When prompted for your username/password, do not proceed. Instead, email us your new order number (which will be emailed to you from 2CO after you have signed up) and your existing username and we will convert your account. A pro-rated refund will be issued on your previous order.
--
Dr. Web + SuperAntiSpyware Pro + Online Armor Free + Router/SPI


jrobert69
How High?
Premium
join:2001-05-19
Rochester, NH

thanks



spanglo
Premium
join:2004-05-17
San Diego, CA

reply to Stem Bolt
Nice, just signed up for 11 buck deal myself last night. 2400KB/s average with 12 connections - no complaints in the speed department.



Goober
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4

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My complaint is that they advertise 140 days, yet I couldn't pull a multi-part posting at 133 days. Not nearly enough pars to complete. I'm disappointed.



spanglo
Premium
join:2004-05-17
San Diego, CA

That blows, hope that's not a problem for me in the future.
Well maybe when retention reaches 200 days I'll be able to pull 150 day stuff!



Ryan
Premium
join:2001-03-03
Quincy, MA

reply to Goober

said by Goober:

My complaint is that they advertise 140 days, yet I couldn't pull a multi-part posting at 133 days. Not nearly enough pars to complete. I'm disappointed.
What groups have you been downloading from? Ive honestly been trying to find one completion issue, but have yet to need to use a par2 file. I have been downloading things 130 days old 132 80 90 etc and havent had an issue yet. I have probably done a good 40 gigs now without one issue. Guess im lucky??


Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping

join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI

Same here I don't have any issues, just finished getting 10+ gigs from 131 days no pars needed.

said by Ryan:

said by Goober:

My complaint is that they advertise 140 days, yet I couldn't pull a multi-part posting at 133 days. Not nearly enough pars to complete. I'm disappointed.
What groups have you been downloading from? Ive honestly been trying to find one completion issue, but have yet to need to use a par2 file. I have been downloading things 130 days old 132 80 90 etc and havent had an issue yet. I have probably done a good 40 gigs now without one issue. Guess im lucky??


Goober
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4

reply to Ryan
It was a relatively large multi-part binary that I picked randomly based on the number of days old the article was.



Ryan
Premium
join:2001-03-03
Quincy, MA

said by Goober:

It was a relatively large multi-part binary that I picked randomly based on the number of days old the article was.
Is it a small group or something? I just find it odd that I havent seen the same thing..

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