Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20852427 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:12:38 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:12:38 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20864876 drjp81 : Kettle pot, pot kettle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20864876 Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:56:57 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861986 digitalfreak :
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

You know, there's an ignore function in this forum. If y'all would stop replying to him, AND including his rubbish, the rest of us could at least stop having to suffer through his trash.
Nah. I get a good laugh from some of the garbage he spews.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861986 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:55:35 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861959 digitalfreak :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by TheWickerMan See Profile :

said by jrobert69 See Profile :

Not shocked, its his typical bs.
I'm not shocked either. I've seen enough of his posts to realize that his beliefs can be summed up in two sentences:

1. Big Business is always right.

2. The government is always right, unless it conflicts with Big Business.
You forgot to add:
3. The Pirate Bay is always wrong.
4. The music & movie thieves are always wrong.
:D
I think "TK is always wrong" sums it up quite well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861959 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:49:32 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861658 Ahrenl : You know, there's an ignore function in this forum. If y'all would stop replying to him, AND including his rubbish, the rest of us could at least stop having to suffer through his trash. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861658 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:43:24 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20861260 TKJunkMail :
said by TheWickerMan See Profile :

said by jrobert69 See Profile :

Not shocked, its his typical bs.
I'm not shocked either. I've seen enough of his posts to realize that his beliefs can be summed up in two sentences:

1. Big Business is always right.

2. The government is always right, unless it conflicts with Big Business.
You forgot to add:
3. The Pirate Bay is always wrong.
4. The music & movie thieves are always wrong.
:D
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said by jrobert69 See Profile :

Not shocked, its his typical bs.
I'm not shocked either. I've seen enough of his posts to realize that his beliefs can be summed up in two sentences:

1. Big Business is always right.

2. The government is always right, unless it conflicts with Big Business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20860909 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:03:46 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20856509 KrK : It's not illegal. People who keep trying to trample free speech and citizen's rights are TRYING to expand laws to make it illegal.

I for one hope it doesn't pass. The days of going to prison for simply possessing "criminal information" is not something I look forward to.
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said by KrK See Profile :

Thing is, what Pirate Bay does isn't illegal.

Hacking someone's systems and stealing their information IS illegal....
It is illegal and they are under indictment in their own country. They just haven't been convicted yet.
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Hacking someone's systems and stealing their information IS illegal....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20856485 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:54:37 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20855979 jrsmooth : Hypocrite.

I am otherwise speechless.
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Unlike you, I am on their side, and to HELL with MPAA and the like.
ARRGGHHH---Rock on Pirate Bay!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20855304 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:12:44 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20855027 mrchris : That's RIAA, not MPAA. MPAA deals with the movie industry.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20855027 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:38:52 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853398 RARPSL :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
If you look at what they say you will find that they do NOT claim disdain for laws but disdain for attempts to enforce INAPPLICABLE laws. What they do is legal by the Swedish Laws and they ridicule the *AA types for claiming that US laws can be being broken by their actions in Sweden.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853398 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:34:27 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853396 cdru :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
Which laws do they trumpet their disdain for? Yes we all know what the Pirate Bay is there for, however under Swedish law what they are doing is not illegal and under US law it's still a pretty gray area. Most of the cases of trackers shutting down isn't because they were legally in the wrong, it's because they capitulated under the legal cost burden of proving that what they were doing isn't illegal.

Good or bad ethics by the way doesn't necessarily equate to anything illegal.

And honestly, I don't think that the founders of Pirate Bay care a single bit on what the MPAA "hacker spy" knows or told.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853396 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:33:58 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853248 Desdinova : "They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics."

No, they continually trumpet their disdain for U.S. laws and the moronic attempts by U.S. companies to try and enforce those laws in Sweden.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853248 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:51:00 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853174 digitalfreak :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
Yes, TK. All of us know illegal and unethical is fine with you if it helps your agenda.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853174 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:31:29 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853026 Corehhi :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

Where I'm at, it is illegal; my point is however, that I will do what it takes to protect my property. Once again here, it seems that the criminal has more rights tham the victim.

If you don't like the MPAA, then boycott their products.
Haven't bought a CD in 10 years. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20853026 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:50:33 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852866 Mashiki :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
The laws of their host country aren't being violated, actually the laws in many other countries aren't being violated either. In turn that makes the ethics of the argument subjective.

If you want to add an extra argument to this, as more of the population does the same thing the legality of an issue such as this falls to the wayside. Simply on the point that the judicial system will become burdened by the number of 'petty' criminals that are charged with crimes relating to an issue overburdening the justice system, the judicial/legislative then will have to make a decision. That being, is it even worth their time to put people through the system for what will eventually be a petty crime?

Going back however to the topic at hand, getting personal information by various means such as key logging, packet sniffing or interception attacks is illegal nearly everywhere; unless you're in some 3rd world country that doesn't have laws written for it yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852866 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:06:35 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852831 Dogfather : Then you will suffer the consequences if you protect your property through illegal means. And when you do that (protect your property illegally), YOU are a criminal too.

The MPAA like the RIAA are engaging in racketeering and those executives should be fined and jailed just as you or I would if we did the crap they're doing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852831 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:58:08 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852818 S_engineer : Where I'm at, it is illegal; my point is however, that I will do what it takes to protect my property. Once again here, it seems that the criminal has more rights tham the victim.

If you don't like the MPAA, then boycott their products.
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Only those who make the proper bribes contributions to Congress don't have the follow the rule of law.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852774 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:44:36 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852734 S_engineer : Not really...the criminals are barking that their rights have been violated by someone doing something illegal to them.? Give me a break.
If there are legal clients using p2p; well, they have a leg to stand on..for all of the rest downloading (or uploading)their favorite movies; too bad!

This is like me getting sued for using razor wire around my windows from someone breaking into my house.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
Stealing and hacking personal information is ok with TK. Ethics are only cool sometimes eh? Have you ever been a Louisiana politician by any chance? Pretty sleazy...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852712 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:28:23 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852613 jrobert69 : Not shocked, its his typical bs.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
Ahh, moral relativism from a conservative such as yourself. Say it ain't so.

So you approve of these illegal tactics?
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The MPAA membership should forfeit 1 year of profits as a penalty and those that signed off on the hacking should go to prison for a term of not less than 20 years.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852474 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:34:05 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852471 Kearnstd : hiring a hacker makes the MPAA in violation of multiple laws, TPB does not break a single law as Torrent Trackers are not the copyrighted material, only the map to find it. and if that is illegal then well google might get sued.
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The fact of the matter is, if you break the law to catch someone, then you are no better than the person. Of course, you support the bush regime flaunting the law to catch those scary scary 'terrist'. Who cares if I called my friend in Iraq, I should be monitored! That constitution? It's just a damn piece of paper! We don't have any rights! we're at WAR dammit! You should be PROUD to have to show your 'papers' every time you want to cross state lines. You should support random checkpoints where the police can demand to see your papers. I mean, it worked so well in the 1940's, lets bring it back to the US, even though we fought a war to prevent just such a policy.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
OMG!! TKjunk is all for breaking the law. That's right, if a company breaks the law that is quite alright in his book as long as the big corps are making money.

Such a true hypocrite.

Your true colors are showing
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These practices are illegal, therefore the evidence provided in court should be Void.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852427 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:21:56 EDT Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20852412 dadkins :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them.
Two wrongs don't make a right, does it?
If _____ is to be held responsible for their actions and get prosecuted, so should the MPAA, right?

Illegal is illegal, or are there special exceptions for corporations with DEEP pockets?
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