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Re: A supporting commentary to McDowells
Probably not. Since thievery seems to be one of the talking points some need to use to justify corporate decisions that would otherwise be difficult to justify to paying customers.
It's easier to claim high-bandwidth users must be doing something wrong--and thus additional bandwidth is only going to support unethical or illegal activities--than actually debating the merits of legitimate use and what alternatives there are to the ISPs to handle those higher bandwidth (LEGITIMATE) applications.
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Re: A supporting commentary to McDowells
said by Jovi  :Can we ever have a debate about bandwidth that does not involve being thieves?  Not as long as TK is still allowed to post. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by nasadude :said by TKJunkMail :.. and content that the users music & movie thieves want. Sometimes I think you're a caricature of a real person. A recent photo:
TK Junk Mail at home :)
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Re: A supporting commentary to McDowells
The complaints about VPN or SSH being broken by DPI shoot a whole in your argument that DPI only affects "music & movie thieves".
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Can we ever have a debate about bandwidth that does not involve being thieves?
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nasadude
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said by TKJunkMail :.. and content that the users music & movie thieves want. TK, you are so predictable.
copyright infringement isn't theft, so they can't be thieves. Sometimes I think you're a caricature of a real person. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by funchords :It doesn't say anything for the fact that the other $9 is "access denied" to the applications, destinations, and content that the users want. Rewrite:
It doesn't say anything for the fact that the other $9 is "access denied" to the applications, destinations, and content that the users music & movie thieves want.
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said by nasadude :and when you buy the DPI equipment, it lets you do all sorts of other stuff! I think it was Bob Briscoe who said at the IETF P2P Working Group that for every $1 dollar spent on DPI the ISP saved $10 in infrastructure increases.
I guess that's good, if the only thing you worry about is controlling your costs. It doesn't say anything for the fact that the other $9 is "access denied" to the applications, destinations, and content that the users want.
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