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fAcEtIOUs
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U-Can paranoia

This is the group that is going to save Utopia?

From U-Can meeting minutes:
»www.freeutopia.org/
One meeting attendee said that he was aware of Qwest and Comcast purposefully planting moles in UTOPIA providers to try and sabotage the companies from within and that this was a primary cause of Mstar’s near-collapse. I know they’re underhanded, but I’m not sure to what extent they’d try and do something quite this dirty.
Also they want to add one disaster on top of another:
UTOPIA may look at adding wireless to the fiber backbone, either via 802.11g/n or 802.16 (WiMax).

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jc100

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TK strikes again. I believe every word they say about the moles. Obviously, your lack of understanding for the general world and it's workings has failed to educate you on these "ISP Activist Groups" that attend council meetings. If ISPS are brazen enough to create and employ sham citizen groups, what makes you think they wouldn't stoop as low as to get people to help make these companies collapse? After all, they spent millions fighting their creation (Munis) in the first place. They offer real competition, and these ISPS don't like that. SO yes, I do believe them WELL ABOVE YOU.


jc100

join:2002-04-10

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Re: U-Can paranoia

facts:

A) The Fact Telcos have formed and hired "citizen groups" to attend meetings and sway votes in their favors.

B) The fact that these groups are actually sham groups created by the ISPS and are anything but citizen initiatives.

So where is your proof bud? You offer nothing once again, which doesn't surprise anyone. As they say, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. The ISPS are known for shady dealings, and I wouldn't put it past them to hire insiders to help sabotage something they see as competitive to their market. Corporate Sabotage happens ALL THE TIME.


Ganglion

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Agreed. The profits are worth whatever it takes to keep it in private hands. Note the states where telcoms have created and pushed legislation prohibiting municipal and other 'government'(public) broadband.



karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
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TK can't STAND to see government anywhere. Oh, wait, unless it's to bail out failed brokerages, failed banks, failed Fannie May. I mean, the JOB of government, in his view, it to support BIG BUSINESS. That's it's only job. Hell, he doesn't even think national defense is the governments job, he want's to, and has succeeded, in outsourcing WAR. The jokes on him, because I made a lot of money from that.

In any case, if I read the caps, they offer a 500GB plan, with a .20 cent per GB overage. Hmm.. compare that with comcrap 250GB plan with $1.50 per GB overage.

Look at the bottom line. TK 'claims' to have worked in the RR industry. His has twisted his logic to think that the national rail system was built WITHOUT government help! NOT TRUE, not even a little. The national rail system would NEVER HAVE BEEN BUILT if the government did not GIVE the railroads HUGE SWATHS OF LAND. TK's entire career was built upon a GOVERNMENT PROGRAM, and that drives him insane, so he lashes out at anything the government ever does. It's quite sad actually, seeing that he worked in an industry that would never had existed if the government didn't subsidize it.
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fAcEtIOUs
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said by jc100:

I believe every word they say about the moles. SO yes, I do believe them WELL ABOVE YOU.
Your paranoia has taken over. No one has infiltrated any Utah ISPs.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
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well, we know for a FACT comcast had no problem hiring bums to fill seats at a hearing so actual interested persons couldn't get in. It's not much of a leap to imagine an ILEC sending an employee to the meeting of a group like that to gather information, spread disinformation or even disrupt the meeting.

nope, not much of a leap at all.


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