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Re: What will Martin do about AT&T doing what Comcast does?
said by TKJunkMail  :said by sousademiami :Did AT&T throttle any traffic on their network without letting customers know in advance? They prohibit P2P on their wireless network. They prohibit EVERYTHING but HTTP browsing and email on their network. They are neutral...they've banned everything equally. |
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said by JasonOD :
TK, the FCC has no authority over how ISP's manage their network, plain and simple. Comcast knows this, but whether it's worth fighting a slap on the wrist is for them to decide. AT&T clearly knows this as well, and with the likely exponential growth of their 3G wireless services (the iPhone is only the begining), they're prudently setting usage rules up front, rather than deal with the problems of P2P on their wireless network at some later date.
As to Martin, if he does take any kind of hard line with AT&T or any provider regarding managing their network, 1) The FCC will be sued & 2) They'll be consequences when Martin comes looking for work when his tenure is over. Neither of which I believe the man wants to see.
I agree that he doesn't have the authority he claims and that he would lose in court. We'll just have to see if Comcast has the desire to go to court over this or not.
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TK, the FCC has no authority over how ISP's manage their network, plain and simple. Comcast knows this, but whether it's worth fighting a slap on the wrist is for them to decide. AT&T clearly knows this as well, and with the likely exponential growth of their 3G wireless services (the iPhone is only the begining), they're prudently setting usage rules up front, rather than deal with the problems of P2P on their wireless network at some later date.
As to Martin, if he does take any kind of hard line with AT&T or any provider regarding managing their network, 1) The FCC will be sued & 2) They'll be consequences when Martin comes looking for work when his tenure is over. Neither of which I believe the man wants to see. |
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Martin claims that blocking or deprioritizing a method of access(protocol?) is against the FCC principles.
But, AT&T Wireless is doing neither of those things.
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said by djrobx :Yeah, this is an interesting issue for sure. What you're saying is that the FCC's neutrality principles prevent an ISP from prohibiting any sort of activity in their TOS, and I don't think that's right. Martin claims that blocking or deprioritizing a method of access(protocol?) is against the FCC principles. We'll see if he enforces that across the board.
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Yeah, this is an interesting issue for sure. What you're saying is that the FCC's neutrality principles prevent an ISP from prohibiting any sort of activity in their TOS, and I don't think that's right.
There's a difference between selectively deprioritizing certain traffic that you haven't forbidden by policy, and clearly prohibiting its use in your TOS which users agree to when they sign up.
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said by sousademiami :Did AT&T throttle any traffic on their network without letting customers know in advance? They prohibit P2P on their wireless network. According to Martin that is against the FCC's network neutrality principles. And THAT is what Comcast is going to be smacked for on Friday's vote at the FCC - not lying(there is no rule against that at the FCC - but maybe at FTC for false advertising). So let's see if Martin is consistent or is just displaying his anti-Comcast grudge.
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Did AT&T throttle any traffic on their network without letting customers know in advance?
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did they go after comcast because they hid what they were doing? |
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Avalon, NJ |  Will we see Martin start proceedings against AT&T for breaking the FCC's Net Neutrality principles like he is against Comcast? Gee, I don't think so. |
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